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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on Apr 28, 2023 13:14:27 GMT -5
ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer I remember you talking about Tucker as a potential presidential candidate like way back ago lmfao. He seems like an alright guy but like many American conservatives he falls into the """woke""" bashing pit too much. Which is understandable -- it riles up the audience and is basically a cheat code for more views. It's a mystery how would he fare in politics, which makes him the ideal running mate for Trump if you think about it. Either way I hope the Republicans win. Biden's ratings are very low and the democrats seem intent of having the guy run a second term. Does he know, I wonder? I get what you mean about going overboard with the woke bashing. Sometimes I try to articulate it in a way that address that component to be less buzzy-wordy. Nobody really believes in it, but the people in charge pretend that it is omnipresent. Most people, even a lot of people on the left, are too afraid to say anything without being canceled i.e. socially assassinated and become unemployable.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 2, 2023 0:04:59 GMT -5
ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer I remember you talking about Tucker as a potential presidential candidate like way back ago lmfao. He seems like an alright guy but like many American conservatives he falls into the """woke""" bashing pit too much. Which is understandable -- it riles up the audience and is basically a cheat code for more views. It's a mystery how would he fare in politics, which makes him the ideal running mate for Trump if you think about it. Either way I hope the Republicans win. Biden's ratings are very low and the democrats seem intent of having the guy run a second term. Does he know, I wonder? I get what you mean about going overboard with the woke bashing. Sometimes I try to articulate it in a way that address that component to be less buzzy-wordy. Nobody really believes in it, but the people in charge pretend that it is omnipresent. Most people, even a lot of people on the left, are too afraid to say anything without being canceled i.e. socially assassinated and become unemployable.This is ultimately what people are afraid of when speaking out. I don't think people care as much what their peers think as long as it doesn't hurt their bottom-line. People in charge of corporations and governments denying access to a livelihood is why people are afraid. This is a better way of articulating the whole "woke" issue. Because the reason for the conflict is because many people are opposed to what the status quo is, regarding culture, and social topics. I think the same thing could be said regarding the abortion issue. Frankly, I think there should be more abortions, even incentivized so low-income people can control their populations by helping to encourage family planning. I say this as someone that believes life begins at conception.
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Post by Gokuma on May 3, 2023 16:13:58 GMT -5
Woke-bashing is completely justified, and shows people they don't have to live in fear of the hive mind, and can enjoy their 1st Amendment rights.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on May 3, 2023 17:52:04 GMT -5
Woke-bashing is completely justified, and shows people they don't have to live in fear of the hive mind, and can enjoy their 1st Amendment rights. The problem with that is that "woke" is a pretty nebulous term to most people that leads to talking past each other. Why I try to avoid using it outside of more private conversation with a shared understanding of the term. There are still a lot of people that simply think woke = tolerance, like they're part of a new civil rights movement or something instead of a descriptor for a set of authorization behaviors. Maybe the term will gain a more focused meaning in the public consciousness now that people on both sides of the isle are starting to use it as a pejorative but we're not there yet.
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Post by Gokuma on May 3, 2023 19:04:20 GMT -5
Well usually I call it something more elaborate such as Neo-Stalinist Pedocrats, Totalitarian Woketards, or Absolutist Rectal Spelunkers, etc.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 3, 2023 20:34:47 GMT -5
I always liked the term "Pinko", which seems to have fallen out of use for a while.
Pink, as in not fully-Red (communist).
Though the original communists were actually a lot more hard-right than most republicans politicians today, on social issues actually.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on May 3, 2023 20:45:28 GMT -5
Che Guevara's stance on social issues is a prime example. Love seeing the youth wearing his face. Funnily enough I was in a punk band called the dirty pinkos with one of my best friends as a kid, who was a commie. Back when people could disagree and still get along. I usually just say modern left since most people can understand that distinction.
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Post by Gokuma on May 4, 2023 13:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 19, 2023 14:27:59 GMT -5
I think when DeSantis officially enters, he may see an increase in popularity. Frankly, I still would like him to be the number 1 pick. He's to the right of Donald Trump, and he doesn't have any of his baggage. Trump has gotten to the point where even a more politically extreme right-wing candidate is preferable to him by the general public. So To me, it says it has more to do with him as a person, than his politics. Which to me are not extreme at all. It just means following the rules that are already in place, (restoring some) and not veering towards progressive post-modern alterations.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 19, 2023 14:32:00 GMT -5
I think when DeSantis officially enters, he may see an increase in popularity. Frankly, I still would like him to be the number 1 pick. He's to the right of Donald Trump, and he doesn't have any of his baggage. Trump has gotten to the point where even a more politically extreme right-wing candidate is preferable to him by the general public. So To me, it says it has more to do with him as a person, than his politics. Which to me are not extreme at all. It just means following the rules that are already in place, (restoring some) and not veering towards progressive post-modern alterations. In a weird way, Trump has finally given his voters what we wanted.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on May 19, 2023 14:34:57 GMT -5
To me extreme would be using the military to commit genocide of opponents, and minorities.
Not the platform of the Republican party.
One of the more "extreme" policy for example, deporting illegal immigrants, and building a boarder wall on the southern boarder (though clearly a nuanced topic), shouldn't be considered extreme.
I don't know what is going on right now that title 42 has ended, but it sounds like the Biden administration wants them to come. Whether they just let people in or not, is uncertain. But now Democrat-run cities that are receiving migrants are complaining about not having the resources. Especially since there is already a major homelessness problem in the major cities.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 19, 2023 15:00:22 GMT -5
The European Union gave Hungary a shitload of money to build a 5 meter fence on the border with my country and I don't remember anyone ever complaining or calling them Nazis. Weird huh?
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Post by 40oz on May 19, 2023 15:58:09 GMT -5
One of the more "extreme" policy for example, deporting illegal immigrants, and building a boarder wall on the southern boarder (though clearly a nuanced topic), shouldn't be considered extreme. A tepid relationship with the right is historically, a form of isolationism and fundamentally advocates neutrality. Extreme right fascism preys on neutrality as seen in WW2 history. Nationalism and state control mandates violence on groups of people with eugenics-based supporting data. You can't have an entire country made of neutral isolationists. You become a prime target of expansionism by extreme right parties. It can only be subverted by deliberate resistance. The country cannot be safe without resistance to the right. Nonviolence does not win when violence is mandated in right's fully realized ideology. Mexico is a very dangerous place to live, given that the country's police and government are corrupted by drug cartels. When mexican people are migrating to the United States, and border security is making it impossible for refugees to gain citizenship or asylum, this is a form of state controlled violence. When the right calls this 'protecting our borders' it has a very 'common sense' appeal to it's right wing voters despite plausibly denying participation in the murderous intentions of Mexican druglords. Perhaps you imagine state violence as tanks and super soldiers with machine guns marching in the street and shooting people out, (which actually happened in the United States, and was supported with vigilantes like Kyle Rittenhouse and others that successfully restored order a few years ago.) The United States has the most powerful military in the world, it's major cities have no budget for schools, transportation or health services, but an astronomical budget for police. It's probably worth considering different ways that violence can take place.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on May 19, 2023 23:41:32 GMT -5
The European Union gave Hungary a shitload of money to build a 5 meter fence on the border with my country and I don't remember anyone ever complaining or calling them Nazis. Weird huh? There have been occasional smear pieces on Orban here in the US equating him to an ethno-nationalist for wanting strong borders. Of course they won't bridge the gap and extend that same courtesy to the EU though. The border issue is absurd to me because the US having weak borders is bad for everyone except corporate and political interests. The humanitarian side of the argument is a lost one because of issues like human trafficking, fentanyl and having a poor indentured class with reduced to no rights. First thing I learned as an EMR is you don't blindly rush in to help others because by putting yourself at risk you're not only making it a very realistic possibility that you will not be able to help anyone but will also increase the resources needed to resolve a situation compounding the problem. The fact that you need to help yourself before you can help others absolutely scales up on this issue. Unfortunately the political class are the the real thing getting in the way of actual solutions. It shouldn't be a left vs right issue. It should be an us vs the political establishment and corporate interests issue.
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Post by CittyKat112 on May 20, 2023 4:17:51 GMT -5
One of the more "extreme" policy for example, deporting illegal immigrants, and building a boarder wall on the southern boarder (though clearly a nuanced topic), shouldn't be considered extreme. A tepid relationship with the right is historically, a form of isolationism and fundamentally advocates neutrality. Extreme right fascism preys on neutrality as seen in WW2 history. Nationalism and state control mandates violence on groups of people with eugenics-based supporting data. You can't have an entire country made of neutral isolationists. You become a prime target of expansionism by extreme right parties. It can only be subverted by deliberate resistance. The country cannot be safe without resistance to the right. Nonviolence does not win when violence is mandated in right's fully realized ideology. Mexico is a very dangerous place to live, given that the country's police and government are corrupted by drug cartels. When mexican people are migrating to the United States, and border security is making it impossible for refugees to gain citizenship or asylum, this is a form of state controlled violence. When the right calls this 'protecting our borders' it has a very 'common sense' appeal to it's right wing voters despite plausibly denying participation in the murderous intentions of Mexican druglords. Perhaps you imagine state violence as tanks and super soldiers with machine guns marching in the street and shooting people out, (which actually happened in the United States, and was supported with vigilantes like Kyle Rittenhouse and others that successfully restored order a few years ago.) The United States has the most powerful military in the world, it's major cities have no budget for schools, transportation or health services, but an astronomical budget for police. It's probably worth considering different ways that violence can take place. Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero. Also why the fuck US should look after mexicans who are trying to leave their country? It's not like border security is trying to kick out the people who spent a shitload of their time and money to prepare documents and stuff to migrate legally, no. Those people are illegal migrants and they're not migrating they're TRESPASSING THE BORDER. So in this case state controlled violence is totally justfied. 'denying participation in the murderous intentions of Mexican druglords.' - what did you mean by this? Every single one of those ILLEGAL migrants is leaving because the cartels are after them or something? That doesn't make sense. Also druglords can use members of their gangs to infiltrate these groups of illegal migrants to cross the border.
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Post by Gokuma on May 20, 2023 5:03:47 GMT -5
FACTS MATTER MOST when it comes to people's lives. Police were ordered to stand down while retards committed arson and looted. Kyle Rittenhouse is a hero but not a vigilante. He was armed for protection. He retreated and retreated until cornered by a five-time child rapist who said he was going to kill him. Those are probably the only shots he fired while on his feet. He didn't know Joseph Rosenbaum was pedo rapist, he was just trying to defend himself. And what was Rosenbaum's problem? He was severely butthurt that his dumpster fire was extinguished. Then Kyle continued to retreat, only firing in self defense WHILE ON THE GROUND! He never fired into any crowd as the liars claimed. Here's something most people don't know. Joshua Ziminiski (more recently arrested for kidnapping) FIRED FIRST and was yelling at Rosenbaum to kill Kyle. But he's sure been enjoying his privilege to not be mentioned by the media at all. The wikipedia page which is actually rather factual (probably so they don't get sued since Rittenhouse was found innocent) even does Ziminki the service of obscuring his full name and you have to go digging in the reference links to find out his first name is Joshua. Anthony Huber was trying to bludgeon him with a skateboard and won his Darwin award after hitting Kyle twice while he was down. Turns out he had a lengthy criminal history of beating women and a strangulation conviction, though the strangling might have been on his brother. Jumpkick Guy is the only person Kyle shot at and missed. He did a flying jump stomp to Kyle's shoulder while he was down. Also a piece of shit with a long criminal history. He actually approached the prosecution for immunity but they decided not to use him and kept a lid on him. Gaige Grosskreutz, a convicted burglar and member of a communist organization, carrying a handgun illegally finally tried to execute Kyle. Really gun laws are a violation of the 2nd Amendment, but altogether he was a piece of shit criminal. First Kyle had his gun on him first in a standoff and actually SPARED HIM. Grosskreutz put one hand up and lowered his gun. Then when he thought he had an opportunity he rushed in and pointed his gun at Kyle's head, all while Kyle was still down on the ground, and the fucking stupid shithead actually posted later that his only regret was not pulling the trigger first. The media was telling lies such as Gaige being just a medic. Kyle was the one who actually administered medical aid to people earlier in the night even after someone pepper sprayed him earlier. It only took the jury five days to deliberate because two jurors were afraid what people would do to them if they didn't find Kyle guilty on something. NBC was kicked out of the court but not charged for felony jury tampering for ordering a freelancer to follow the jury bus and expose them. At the end of the fourth day, the Judge ordered their identities sealed and next day they found Kyle not guilty on all counts. If Kyle didn't shoot those pieces of shit, his skull would have surely been stomped in leaving him dead or a brain-damaged vegetable. A lot of retards who want Marxist revolution at any means just wanted to hang a white boy who wasn't on their side. I predict the mods for Kyle Rittenhouse's upcoming Wild Turkey Shoot game are going to be totally lit! The game is going to be a best seller in spite of protests and complaints.
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Post by Gokuma on May 20, 2023 5:51:14 GMT -5
On the Mexican border issue, the biggest reason Mexico is so dangerous is because guns are illegal there. Only the cartels and corrupt cops are allowed to have guns, so regular people have shit means to defend themselves, giving the cartels godlike power over everyone. Attorney General Eric Holder under Obama even supplied the cartels with weapons, probably full autos, in their Fast & The Furious operation, which were then used to kill Mexican and US citizens alike. Open borders are giving the cartels free reign. Child trafficking at the border has been through the roof BEFORE Titled 42's expiration. Fentanyl (much of it made in China) is pouring in and killing lots of people. Even weed is being laced with it. Now it's a total invasion at the border. And it's not just a bunch of Mexicans. NGO's are paying to have multitudes of busloads of people sent up from all kinds of countries. I'm currently having trouble finding the article covering the loads of comfortable tour buses all lined up in Costa Rica ahead of Title 42's expiration. If you want to put on a tinfoil hat for a minute, some people are theorizing one of the purposes of this virtual army of young men being brought in is to recruit them as a UN controlled army inside the United States. Too many damn theories are turning out true so keep an eye on that one. It's not unlike what happened in Europe when NATO bombed the shit out of Libya destroying their vast clean water transport infrastructure to create the refugee crisis while NGO's have been shipping boatloads of people up into Europe ever since. You can find video of Hillary Clinton, then Secretary of War I mean State under Obama-Biden, psychotically laughing in an interview saying "We came. We saw. He died" in reference to Gaddafi. Every country has the right to close its borders and say "Fuck off! We're full!" In New York (of course), a hotel kicked out veterans because they were offered more to host migrants. Oh yeah, look at all the right wingers waging war and killing lots of people and having killed the most millions of people. Mao Zedong, oops, Khmer Rouge oops, Bolshevik Leninist/Stalin Soviet Russia oops, National Socialist Germany oops. The closest thing I can think of is the NeoCon Bush-Cheney administration causing 4.5 million deaths resulting from their wars under false pretenses which of course they were never prosecuted for and hmm, they're oddly on the side of democrats these days, all serving the deep state. Trump started no new wars and a record number of peace deals were signed. Now everything's gone to shit and the US is in an instigated prolonged proxy war with Russia with the purpose of killing as many Slavs as possible whether Russian or Ukrainian. Oh yeah, and who was it who bombed Xeep's country? Here is a very important video. rumble.com/v2o3vx0-it-was-a-coup-attempt-ep.-2012-05162023.htmlJust happens to have a Duke Nukem sound byte at 5:20.
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Post by bartekmil on May 20, 2023 9:31:03 GMT -5
The European Union gave Hungary a shitload of money to build a 5 meter fence on the border with my country and I don't remember anyone ever complaining or calling them Nazis. Weird huh? In my country the ruling party likes Orban but the more EU-alligned parties and EU itself sometimes shit on him for being nationalist. Of course nobody is going to complain about Serbian border because even prior to the Ukraine conflict everyone allied with NATO slammed Serbia and equated them to russian puppets. Sad, but I don't think anybody can change it since it's in USA interest for us to hate Serbia. I don't know the exact reasons for this but each time I'm crossing Hungarian-Serbian border I wait at least 4-6 fucking hours and once I missed a bus transfer because of this shit and had to wait additional 7 hours in Budapest for the next one
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 20, 2023 9:56:16 GMT -5
I don't know the exact reasons for this but each time I'm crossing Hungarian-Serbian border I wait at least 4-6 fucking hours and once I missed a bus transfer because of this shit and had to wait additional 7 hours in Budapest for the next one Man don't get me started on this. One time I was crossing the border right after New Year since I study in the EU. As my bus approached the border, the driver got a phone call from his buddies that the wait is approximately THIRTY HOURS, so we went back to Novi Sad, and met there with another friend of the driver's, who gave us fake papers that said the bus was going to Germany (it was not). With those fake papers we could go to a small crossing (Bački Breg/Hercegszanto) because apparently they don't just let any bus go there. And just to be sure we wouldn't have any problems, all passengers also contributed a few euros to bribe the Hungarian officers. It's a cool story in hindsight but WHAT A FUCKING MESS. I HATE BORDERS SO MUCH. AT THIS POINT I HATE TRAVELLING IN GENERAL. And that's still better than the year before that, when I just spent 20 hours in a bus like a dumbass... Oops went a bit off topic there.
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Post by SilverMiner on May 20, 2023 10:14:38 GMT -5
Didn't know Serbia had a border with EU Lol
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Post by deathevokation on May 20, 2023 11:57:30 GMT -5
I still have no idea what this thread is about..
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 20, 2023 12:14:03 GMT -5
Fuck it, from now on this is the official Doomer Boards thread for complaining about border crossings.
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Post by 40oz on May 20, 2023 13:23:36 GMT -5
crossing the border to see my gf up north and can attest that borders suck. i get interrogated every time. to legally immigrate to the states is pretty near impossible. its not signing some paperwork and swear an oath. it requires an immigration lawyer, costs lots of money is extremely convoluted and can take years just to find out youve been denied. thats for the north side. its so much more backlogged down south and people are often detained in outdoor fenced in camps for an indeterminate amount of time. illegally crossing is the only way. realistically i don't know how my gf and i will ever live together.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 20, 2023 14:35:32 GMT -5
40oz what if you guys get married? My former English tutor got married to her American boss and she had to go through a loooooot of questioning and papers, but eventually she got approved and now she lives in America. They had to print out their entire whatsapp chat history (2000 pages) to prove it's not fraudulent lol. But for a Canadian I can't imagine the procedure wouldn't be far more relaxed. But I understand you might be a bit apprehensive to get married again xd
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Post by Gokuma on May 21, 2023 10:36:31 GMT -5
The US-Canada border is a different situation than the Mexico-US border. Would be nice if that one was still as free and open as it used to be, but that changed after 911.
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