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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 6:21:56 GMT -5
dn, maybe you are right about collaboration stuff. I am actually not sure about it. I just have to fucking stop this group of people I've infiltrated in real life somehow. I initially wanted to simply disrupt it, by promoting conflicts within the group, without getting the state involvement. But I'm not sure it will work. They also filed an appeal over state refusing to investigate an opposing group for extremism, so I feel like these people deserve to be framed for extremism themselves. Kinda an eye for an eye, or reaping what you sow sort of lesson. But yes, state has no reason to actually not just throw me in jail with the rest of these scum. For now, though, I have no cover. As far as state is concerned, I am with these people - I am part of these scum, I contribute to their operation. If I were to be arrested now, I would go down with the rest. But you know little of my situation and thus make those claims about me being insane, my ideology being death of reason and whatnot. I seek only to make this activist group go extinct, and I am just considering collaboration option as a last resort. I didn't even consider this option up until I knew this group has sponsors, and there is money shit going on for turning people into activists. My morals are garbage, you say. Tell me an alternate way to get rid of these fuckers for good and I might just consider choosing it over a collaboration. Like I said before, these people are not from the forum and not even from any doom community. They are activists. They tried to frame other activists for extremism (state refused, they try to appeal). They belong behind bars.
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Post by dn on May 4, 2021 6:46:36 GMT -5
Then I suggest you remove yourself from this IRL group, because (a) you are emotionally, intellectually, and morally unprepared. And (b) only stupid people get caught. That Martin Luther King Jr. sounds like a cool guy. I'm glad you like him. Here's another quote: Do not mistake anger for hatred. Anger drives movements; without anger, there would be no civil rights movements, no reform, nada, nothing, the sum total of fuckplusall. Anger is as often a constructive force as one that devastates: anger coupled with morality can become righteous. Anger lacking in morality is hatred, and hatred reduces humans into objects. Dehumanization is the root of all evil. Here endeth the sermon, because I'm not putting any more effort into herding a bunch of fucking quasi-fascist cats today. If you are going to post more on the subject, then I'd recommend practicing coherency over quantity. You'll not be leading any counter-revolution if you can't present your arguments in anything other than a frothing textwall. Put down the keyboard, and go read a book or something.
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Post by 40oz on May 4, 2021 7:49:20 GMT -5
The internet has changed a lot. It used to be this nebulous network of disconnected websites and if you cared to learn anything about a particular topic, you had to do the work and look it up yourself. These days it seems like people are still stuck in this condition of believing that the internet is still that same way. But it's not. Big tech collects your browsing habits and subtly taints your participation on the internet by categorizing topical websites and sending you stuff related to what it seems like you believe. It influences what you think the world is made up of because everyone is getting a different experience. I could show you my news feeds on social media and honestly, it's embarrassing. Or alarming, or terrifying, depending on how much of your worldview has been changed. It's an enormous clusterfuck of opposing opinions from people that don't even know the other exists. You'd have to wonder how I'm not crazy, because the amount of urgency in people's voices I see on the regular could drive a person mad.
Everyone should have to challenge themselves to go against their intrinsic beliefs and look up opposing opinions about their upbringings. Listen to all of them with complete conviction long enough to understand that we are all being toyed with. There's no way either one of these extremes are correct. Whoever it is thats in charge of big tech, I don't know. it's really difficult to tie it all to one name. It has to be some kind of a trust alliance or something. But whoever it is, it's in their interest to funnel people into these spheres where it's impossible to understand the others world view. How could you? You're being bombarded with all this information that black lives matter is a hate group and biden wants to take your guns away and hates freedom and the democrats support pedophiles and human trafficking. It's insane! You have to tell someone! People need to know these horrible secrets! Right?
But there's a difference between what people actually think and believe in versus what people feel like they need to add emphasis to in order to fight the opposition. Does that make any sense?
I have trouble believing you actually mean what you say in this thread given what I've read in your posts prior to posting a thread with a link to this article. I think this article and maybe some more leading up to it spooked you and now you're convinced that the world is changing and things are going to get completely out of hand unless you stand up as the voice of reason. These types of news articles have a way of doing that. If you can train yourself to read articles from the perspective of "what is this writer trying to convince me" instead of taking the words at face value, you can skim through lots of articles that fall into similar patterns. Again it happens on both sides, and my views come from a result of finding out that there's a big guy at the top that's fucking with the way millions of people think through the internet. The internet is not for us anymore. It's a game of monetization and they've got us outmatched.
@vigilantdoomer, I like you dude. I like you a lot. I'm really grateful that you chose this community to talk about doom stuff in and I hope you continue to stay. But you're not gonna start a revolution out of this community. Neither am I. At the end of the day this whole fucking place is a stupid little offshoot doom community that hardly has any influence on anything aside that we make decent doom maps and say idiotic things. We are all overwhelmed with other big business media companies trying to influence our thoughts all the time. The way things play out is the way they will play out and that's that.
We are mostly powerless to it unless we attack it at the source. The source WANTS you to think it's right vs. left politics, but it's not. That's not the problem at all. This community is a shining example of that. I can't align with the politics of most of the members of this forum, honestly. But we still manage to come together and make art together that makes the doom community a better place. The politics is not the problem.
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Post by Lobo on May 4, 2021 11:14:12 GMT -5
You need to drop this group of whatever they are and never look back.
And try and enjoy the decline of civilization.
It's better to cruise through the train stations of Concern, Worry, and Anger because the last stop is Apathy 😉
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Post by dr_st on May 4, 2021 15:21:00 GMT -5
Big tech collects your browsing habits and subtly taints your participation on the internet by categorizing topical websites and sending you stuff related to what it seems like you believe. It influences what you think the world is made up of because everyone is getting a different experience. I could show you my news feeds on social media and honestly, it's embarrassing. Or alarming, or terrifying, depending on how much of your worldview has been changed. You know that a good way to counter it is simply to have no feed on social media. Explore, learn and expose yourself to different sources. Preferably through reading, which actively engages your brain, rather than watching TV/web videos, in which you are being passively bombarded, with little time/capacity to react, stop and process. my views come from a result of finding out that there's a big guy at the top that's fucking with the way millions of people think through the internet There are frequently "guys at the top", but it is wrong to think that everything people ever write or say or do is dictated by those "guys", and no one has any real opinions or ideologies. People choose where to go and who to collaborate with. And in any case, just because all sides have "guys at the top" with agendas, does not mean all agendas are identical or equally good/bad. Yes, it is absolutely correct to ask "who does this piece of information/news serve?" or "what is he trying to convince me of", as you pointed out. However, it is also important to analyze the agendas themselves, what their fundamental axioms and endgoals are, how much they are based in reality, whether they are logical or self-contradictory, etc. Then, hopefully you can come to sensible conclusions on what to support.
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Post by 40oz on May 4, 2021 17:11:07 GMT -5
rather than watching TV/web videos, in which you are being passively bombarded, with little time/capacity to react, stop and process. I don't do this. it is wrong to think that everything people ever write or say or do is dictated by those "guys", and no one has any real opinions or ideologies. I don't think this. just because all sides have "guys at the top" with agendas, does not mean all agendas are identical or equally good/bad. I don't think this.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 17:03:21 GMT -5
Jesus fuckin' Christ I wanted to comment this thread little by little but... Vigilant, what the actual fuck... As a Canadian it baffles me just how insanely divided, politically hostile and societally unstable the US is. Have you ever seen my motheland? I dare you to watch. :trollface: They're fucking parasites. Will of these people to let past go and imigrate into other state is not a crime and sure is not a parasitic behaviour. Have a question to you tho, do you belong to the Cult of Putin? And I don't want to be part of that culture - for me, this movie represents that cancer culture that I need to stop. And I don't want to be part of that culture - for me, this movie represents that cancer culture that I need to stop. Huh, I wonder why does this sounds like Hitler speech to me... How come none of you fucking leftist understand that multiculturalism is flawed because you have whole communities of people with their own ethical standards so that no uniform laws can ever be derived that all of them can come into agreement? It's possible to achieve uniform laws for everyone, question is that for doing so the government need to have ball, FUCKIN' HUGE BALLS. And huge guts. Yes ethnic and racial communities are a thing in their own right, they have somewhat individual sets of rules and vise versa, but the point of dispute is that their laws need to co-live with uniform ones, i.e. federal, global laws, that are present in country this individuals live for a fact. So they need to be local, inside of a group, if individual person can't realize that laws that are legit in his ethnic group do not have any ground for another, thus have no power over them and enforcing these laws of its ethnic group on others then police and govt may have a right to regulate this shit and have a set of punishments for violation of federal\global set of laws\rules. . I have managed to stay friendly with them, although I really wish one of them gets murdered there. Oof... that's big yikes, really big one. I am on the edge of breakdown, all the time. The way of Ruskies, tho. I mean, we all are walking on slippery slope between normalcy and descending into degeneracy, every single day in our lifes. We all have to go for compromises because we can't made something, buy something we want, or simply take a chance, a moment for catch our luck and fulfill a dream. That's how things are there for about 2 centuries already. If not more, even. Actually, there is, but, who in their mind would live on a bottom of the ocean, willingly, for the rest of their lives, isolated from the rest of the world? but for willing to take the credit money and steal it Honestly, with this shit going on there in Motherland I would've done exactly same thing, just to get the fuck away from here. I am also not going to kill people, but I see nothing wrong with cooperating with FSB in case I find actual incriminating evidence That's just selling our oyurself for futher disposal as expendable bio-material. That's below the bottom, sir, keep that in mind. I tried many times to explain 40oz that his relentless promotion of leftism can't change people views, Oh it can alright, but when you live on another side of the world and watch how "woke" culture literally burns out what was built by their predecessors for ages - that sure a good way to push people away from leftism alright. If you think the state gives a single shit about you then you are hilariously mistaken. Can relate to that... ahem, quite deep, in soul merit. I just have to fucking stop this group of people I've infiltrated in real life somehow. No. You don't have. Just because you feel it this way doesn't yet makes you to "have" do a thing that you might to consider entirely wrong later. And like being said, collaboration with govt, whatever govt is, just result in your very miserable end. But you know little of my situation and thus make those claims about me being insane, my ideology being death of reason and whatnot. Maybe, just MAYBE, because you did not explained what the hell is going on with your situation, what is your situation for real, etc.? I mean, come on, it's not that me, you, and Memfis are only russians there (I mean, it pretty much wrong, there are more), but seriously, nobody would spoil somebody in the internet to FSB or FBI or whoever the fuck is watching over Doomer Boards (if they do it at all)
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Post by deathevokation on May 6, 2021 1:22:14 GMT -5
In the current climate; following, getting invested in and debating about Western politics that you have no control over for prolonged periods of time during a pandemic is a bad idea and will make you go insane... especially with the level of discourse where people are actually desensitized to the fact that they celebrate deaths of others for the sole reason that they are "them",
I honestly think you shouldn't go out your way to look for stories that'd upset you even if just for your own wellbeing. Make sure you survive lockdown WITH your own sanity and remain employable and that'd be the best victory you can have over the covid lockdowns, don't roll in the mud with people that advocate for the deaths of others so that you don't become like them.. also it helps being mindful that half the people you'll be arguing with are probably starving and have cabin fever and will only reinforce any resentment you may already have. My best advice is to focus on your immediate surroundings and things you do have direct control over, it helps a lot, Vigilant Doomer.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 9:10:15 GMT -5
deathevokation, you are suggesting a passive approach to life. While there are many people who would choose a riskless life over the possibility to reach the stars, I am not one of them (anymore). Like the Russian proverbial saying: to fear the wolves is to stay out of the forests. On the subject of which, do you know the song "Simple Man" by Lynyrd Skynyrd? Does it remind of something your mother was saying? If you don't get it, than try to read between the lines with Pink Floyd's "Mother" accent. The lockdown is what set me on the course to finally get into real life politics. It ran over my previous life, and I had to think of something new to do in regards to getting some practical experience and insight. Staying employed is not good enough for me. Most people live meaningless lives - they might as well never existed in the first place. I'm not following in their footsteps. As for controling things, it is about experience. If you don't try it, you'll never learn. And to gain is to suffer - no work that remains comfortable results in improvement. I know a guy who, despite his small height and the history of smoking, went to run 100 km and a 24 hour ultramarathon within a year after he started running. He did seemingly impossible miles per week or even per day for a novice. He then proceeded to outdo younger, somewhat talented people who were training for years (I'm not talking about professional athletes, but those who run as a hobby and are dedicated). I thought him a cheater, until I decided to run 100 km too. I reached him for advice (there was 2 months before the race day, and I have stopped training a few months before), and he suggested I run twice a day or more. At first I thought: isn't this the kind of training plan that only professional athletes do? Then I realized, that the actual difference is that professional athletes also can run fast while having so many sessions - I need not. So I went to do it, and of course, my speed was often slow as tortoise. 3 weeks prior to the week that had race day in it, I achieved 145-157 miles per week. So on the race day, I actually pulled it off, even though it was still hard as fuck (surprisingly for me at the time). That way, I now knew he wasn't a cheater - he simply didn't restrict himself with arbitrary limitations like "raising the miles per week slowly" and the rest of bullshit some runners and most casuals believe in. Those who do not dare don't win, even though they might avoid permanent disability or death. And death cannot be avoided forever anyway. Life culls - and this is the realization I struggled for a long time against, yet it is my running experience that taught me this way. To think of a recent example: I passed by a father and his 3-year old (?) child while running, and the child got pleasantly agitated as if they wanted to run, moving himself forward and saying something indistinguisable (not yet able to talk but it expressed interest), but the father told them "we better go to McDonalds". It was so despicable I sped up against the storming wind that blew in the opposite direction of me - for these people represented the wormlike existence and I wanted to be in every way the opposite of them. @wereknight, I don't have any particular - positive or negative - feelings towards Putin. A cult sounds like a joke... tell me about the possibility of such a cult one year ago and I wouldn't even believe it. To everyone: I admit I was full of shit in regards to cooperating with the government, and I don't plan to do it anymore. That being said, exiting the activist group is not necessary, as I accept it might be not possible to bring them down with my own effort for a while. As I learned already, sometimes opportunities present themselves which you can't actually force but are very useful - such as having an informant or two. Speaking of which, there is an enigmatic person who decided - for whatever reason - to divulge internal affairs without being asked for, and I am interested to know what her motives may be. I perhaps will write a story concerning her at a later time - this is something I could use advice for. Although I find your comments - freaking out about me designating people as "degenerates" and "expendable", or suggesting celebration of other people's death is wrong - fucking pathetic. Nothing wrong about these things, and if I judged some people as "degenerates", that is my judgement that results from their actual behavior that was often unsoliticed by me in any way - that is, these people revealed their character, their worthlessness, their rotten nature. It is not some assumptions. When I committed myself to entering an activist group, I knew there has to be a reason if some of them (not all, mind you) are personally targetted, a fair game to "cull" by some means (I'll rule out killing, because don't think would be able to get away with that) - them having opposing political beliefs is not such a reason. And those that I actually called "degenerates", provided such a reason. But of course this story is too long to be written here. P.S. In respect of Anger lacking in morality is hatred, and hatred reduces humans into objects. Dehumanization is the root of all evil. We had an interesting discussion on a particular subject where you had no issues with dehumanization (at the end of the post): Pedophiles and death penaltyAnyway, expressing hatred verbally and publicly should hardly be of concern. Ability to produce hate speech is like having a ventilation in your house. Some of you would rather choke to their deaths in gazenwagen. I see. Thus the problem is not the black people who hate white people, it is when black racist statements don't get censored while white racist statements do. Should racists have the right to express their opinion? Yes, even if I know it's retarded.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 12:20:16 GMT -5
Holy fucking shitballs, this thread reads like a diary of a serial killer in the making or something. The resentment, the superiority complex, the desire to become some kind of a vigilante and carry out twisted justice, paragraphs after paragraphs of paranoid ramblings about wild conspiracies, blaming the world and others for everything, wishing death on acquaintances... This is probably the most frightening user I've ever been on a forum with, and a very good reason to consider distancing myself from this place like a few members recently did. Just wow.
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Post by dr_st on May 9, 2021 14:00:29 GMT -5
@vigilantdoomer It is a pity that some very accurate and good observations you have, about what is wrong with the left and the "progressive" speech/agendas, get drowned in wall after wall of text and hate.
Take heed of some of the advice you've been given here - (1) quality before quantity and (2) wallowing in hate is not healthy and expressing is publicly, even if it is your "right" will only alienate people.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 15:22:20 GMT -5
dr_st, I agree with that advice, I just wasn't able to apply it yet otherwise than not replying at all. Guess I will pass on replying to @memfis. I will simply say that disruptive work is not all that I do. I faced much adversity trying to do some positive social activism (as opposed to political) within that real-life community. Like supporting transgendered people who, for whatever reason, can't get permission to transition from the "jury" of doctors - whether lacking money or being outright denied. There is much that is morally wrong with how these people are treated, but it takes huge guts to fight for what is just, and when every idea, every proposition of change meets immediate resistance even from otherwise sympathetic people, you don't end up having a 'nice' personality. I should also say, it pains me to see that much effort coming from my side - in regards to helping other people - gets sabotaged by other people's inactivity. (I am talking about that real life community). It has been months since I first though about holding a new kind of event and I still hadn't negotiated the details of it, because the leader keeps herself busy... it seems the kind of stuff she does is more pleasing to sponsors than even the prospect of new recurring event.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2021 20:17:24 GMT -5
On a second notice, the post by @memfis warrants some rebuttal, as it is loaded with value-laden language and invites reader to make assumptions. re: resentment, the superiority complex, the desire to become some kind of a vigilante and carry out twisted justice Already commented on that - it requires titanical effort to do some meaningful change. It indeed produces that kind of euphoria of being stronger than a bunch of other people - because you have to be, or otherwise you quit. In this case, one has to be a stronger activist than a few other activists combined. re: paragraphs after paragraphs of paranoid ramblings about wild conspiracies Whether one can be paranoid enough is a subject to debate. re: blaming the world and others for everything Like, you know, trying to do any kind of activism requires to find flaws within existing state of things? re: wishing death on acquaintances I don't get to choose these acquaintances - I have to appear nice (in real life) to outright jerks for the purpose of building social links. If this was not activism but a hobby instead I would not make such connections, or would have cut them long time ago. re: This is probably the most frightening user I've ever been on a forum with And you would be the most successful troll whose "I'm unhappy" attitude is quite viral. Granted, I have not been to many places on the net other than as a lurker. But fuck - do you ever experience positive things? No wonder you were hated/despised on Doomworld. It is indeed the problem with you - not with the Doomworld, although Doomworld has its share of problems. re: a very good reason to consider distancing myself from this place like a few members recently did An alarmist post, and an excuse of someone who barely contributes to Doom community in present days. To the future lurker, it might appear as if it was my posts that drove people out. But no, the event you refer to is a few members coordinated exit over a disagreement how DBPs should be organised and what their goal to be, not an issue of politics or other casual discussions. As much as your contributions to Doom are welcome, I would be relieved not to deal with this attitude of yours in off-topic discussions. I wouldn't miss you much compared to those other people - a true shame they chose to leave indeed. At least, they didn't leave over politics or inability to manage one's own time on Internet. I will end by saying that I don't actually have personal beef with you, @memfis, but you need to realize that something is very wrong with your mood. You are feeling blues all the time, and you make posts that really provoke people with the thoughts "what the fuck?" You carry your personal hell with you wherever you are going.
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Post by 40oz on May 9, 2021 20:59:36 GMT -5
We're gonna take a little break from posting on the forums for a bit, I think. Lets maybe practice writing our posts on notepad and then reading them out loud back to ourselves as if someone we care about is saying them to our face, and then edit them down to something that sounds a little more platonic and friendly. What do you say?
We could probably use a break from this reality for a minute. This is a doom forum after all, maybe we could take few minutes to kill some demons and not the other space marines.
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 9, 2021 21:21:15 GMT -5
@vigilantdoomer If you want a reply so badly I have one for you:
Instead of being a keyboard warrior how about you go do something that actually benefits you or makes the world a better place. You're not achieving anything here and while I don't care to know the exact circumstances of your activism I will say this: That if you act like a mad dog you will be put down like one.
I don't appreciate your attitude towards @memfis and I believe him to be a very valuable community member. Your tearing into is uncalled for and you need to stop. Don't pretend to know people or events more than you really do. As for that I'm of the opinion that all you want is a reaction and that you're the actual troll here. Try making some friends instead of burning bridges for no good reason. I don't want to be a moderator but if I was I would think now's the time to lock this up.
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Post by xeepeep on May 9, 2021 21:29:25 GMT -5
Very based, cockpilled, ballspilled, cumpilled, pisspilled and shitpilled of you 40oz. I would've let it escalate a bit more though, we could've had another SArais there and God knows the SArais situation is the funniest shit I've ever witnessed on the internet first-hand. What's your body count at this point? Shame you don't flaunt it as proudly as DN does. Anyway on to more important matters. I'm making goulash tomorrow because I promised my friends I would cook something. They offer me their stuff all the time and I don't really cook often. I'm a pretty solid cook though, when I want to. Probably because I pack my food with Vegeta aka the greatest invention to come from my part of the world, right up there with electricity. I swear even my dad who hasn't stepped into the kitchen since he poisoned me with detergent when I was 2 could make Gordon Ramsay lick his fingers with enough of that thing. God I love Vegeta. If this thread doesn't get locked by tomorrow I'll post pics of the goulash.
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 9, 2021 21:35:16 GMT -5
Oh wow he actually got banned I didn't expect that. May your goulash be blessed with all the best spirits of yummy xeepeep .
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Post by 40oz on May 9, 2021 22:48:08 GMT -5
Temporary ban only.
We oughta just take a breather for a little bit and come back in a good mood. Life is really hard for a lot of people in this world right now. We should probably sit in a circle and take turns saying something nice about each other. We're all surviving this pandemic together so let's just all be on the same team, whether our politics align or not. Let's not take people's posts too personally for a little while.
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Post by xeepeep on May 10, 2021 0:22:03 GMT -5
Sorry I just read all this and I gotta react real quick [to memfis] No wonder you were hated/despised on Doomworld. Bruh memfis is quite literally one of the most iconic people in the Doom community of the '10s. Calling him hated may actually be the most schizo thing you've said so far. Also "that attitude of yours" nibba you wrote a fucking thesis here about how you're going to go out there and kill transgender people, while he peeked in, said "y'all cray bruh" and left to do whatever he does now. This last one needs no commenting: You carry your personal hell with you wherever you are going. Anyway I'm off. Fun seeing more drama here. But I drank my roommate's oat milk and I have to buy more before he notices. Oat "milk" is quite nice.
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Post by Lobo on May 10, 2021 1:03:34 GMT -5
Never thought I'd see the day vigilantdoomer got banned.
Not sure I agree: maybe the dude just needs to vent, what if we think of this as his very own emotional support thread?
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Post by deathevokation on May 10, 2021 7:31:53 GMT -5
Also "that attitude of yours" nibba you wrote a fucking thesis here about how you're going to go out there and kill transgender people, Wait did he actually say this?
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Post by Lobo on May 10, 2021 10:46:31 GMT -5
Exaggeration.
And you make it sound like he hates ALL transgender people which is a lie: he just hates a certain selection of people, some of whom are transgender. In fact didn't he say that he was in some kind of support group helping them?
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Post by good-old on May 10, 2021 11:06:56 GMT -5
now that, is the reason I hate politics so much. It always ends in something like this, hate.
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Post by peerdolius on May 10, 2021 15:24:43 GMT -5
Jesus christ this thread was a wild ride
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Post by xeepeep on May 10, 2021 16:21:15 GMT -5
(content removed) and balls
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