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www.cnsnews.com/commentary/dr-jerry-newcombe/dear-god-please-help-me-hate-white-people-devotional-wokeness-steroidsI don't like Christianity, but, from my experience of being raised as a Christian, this woman is not the least Christian-like. You don't pray with hatred in your mind, nor do you ask God to help your evil deeds. That Martin Luther King Jr. sounds like a cool guy. The color-blind society is a better idea than this Brave New World's "identity politics and privilege" bullshit - the "divide and conquer" strategy of the plutocrats, masqureading as a fight for multi-cultural peace. The existence of movements like BLM just serves the uber-rich class by promoting civil mindwar between common people.
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Post by xeepeep on May 3, 2021 3:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by dn on May 3, 2021 7:19:20 GMT -5
Is Detroitification a word? I feel like it should be a word.
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Post by 40oz on May 3, 2021 7:48:15 GMT -5
What the fuck is this thread really about? If you don't like christianity, why are you paying any mind to either of them? Are you trying to convince people here that black people are bad? There's a bunch of idiots here who already believe that indiscrimnately. Why do they need more fuel for their stupid ideas? You're always going to find crazy people, and black people are especially always going to seem crazier when you get some stupid racist white guy to write about them. The website is not even trying to hide its bias. It's right there in the slogan. This looks like a website that would only exist in a simpsons episode. You're not really reading this with complete conviction are you?
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Post by xeepeep on May 3, 2021 8:10:39 GMT -5
It's right there in the slogan. Yikes 40 I think you reveal a bit of your own bias right there. Quite problematic! ( ) No but honestly I don't care about any of this. I've talked to around 5 black people in my life IRL (none of them even American) and maybe a few more online. None of this impacts me in any way, and I'm only glad to see America suffer. Doesn't feel as good when you're on the receiving end of all the chaos, does it.
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Post by 40oz on May 3, 2021 8:19:00 GMT -5
hahah ok that's funny.
For real though, we're not going to use this forum to scare white people into thinking that BLM has an agenda to kill whitey. The person referred to in this article is one person that does not have any credibility and theyre being written about by someone who also has no credibility, both on the virtue that they can't practice their faith without having a fucking news website about it where almost every article title is talking about how the democrats are ruining america.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 10:38:16 GMT -5
The subject of this thread is black people getting away with publishing literature or voicing their opinion in public without repercussions, where a symmetric opinion from the white person (what we call fascism and racism) would bring such repercussions. No, black people are in general not bad, just as white people in general are not bad. However, the persons I mentioned in this thread would think otherwise, now if someone white was of that opinion, they would be in trouble. I suggest that black fascism should be recognized and treated the same as white fascism - that is, outlawed, censored etc. That you think I am a white rascist somehow is interesting (cause that's what you seem to be saying, when you say that I allegedly meant black people are bad or want to kill white people). BLM is not equal to black people! It is the movement that I am against, not the black people per se. I bet there are a lot of black people who don't even support the BLM. I also am willing not to find any guilt in black people who sympathize with BLM but are not part of it, provided they don't engage in vitriolic polemics like the person in the original post. One should realize that activist group is not the same as social group it is allegedly defending, and that activists group actually do harm to social group's image, for example LGBTQ+ activists vs LGBTQ+ people. These are two different categories, with different mindsets (confirmed via real-life experience, as I do know some people). I don't consider the freaks I mentioned in OP or in relation to BLM as representative of black people. Cofounder of BLM is not representative of black people. As for why do I care about Christianity - because I was raised in a Christian environment where those adults who were Christian weren't practicing what they preached. In my country, religion is aggressively pushed by the government with most of citizens being described as believers (this latter is allegedly by a state-wide survey). I think it is rigged, as well as many of those Christians are fake just as my parents were. That is, those who use religion to shame other people but don't keep their own behavior in check according to the doctrine. I wish every person describing themselves as Christian was forced to obey every doctrine in their Bible verbatim. I believe then only a few masochists in the world would remain religious, with nearly every other person becoming an atheists so they are not continously trampled. Also, why should I discard right-wing opinions anyway? I am not going to subscribe to the notion of "privilege" and the compensatory packages for the "oppressed" groups. I believe such solutions do not solve the problem but create new ones instead, reverse the oppression trend, etc. Perhaps the promise of true equality is indeed not delivered through constitution, but the provisions that radical left is pushing don't seem to create any real equality either. They are more of a perpetually enacted revenge, like "your ancestors oppressed our ancestors in the past, and for that you and your descendants will suffer eternally, and we'll call you privileged while forcing you to eat shit and not talk back". dn, it is already a word, according to urban dictionary and a few other places... But of course Merriam-Webster and Cambridge dictionaries hadn't caught up with it yet.
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Post by 40oz on May 3, 2021 10:53:51 GMT -5
The subject of this thread is black people getting away with publishing literature or voicing their opinion in public without repercussions, where a symmetric opinion from the white person (what we call fascism and racism) would bring such repercussions. Please describe these repercussions Edit: For the sake of argument, can we confirm if we're talking about western (United States) laws or laws in the country you reside in?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 11:12:02 GMT -5
It's always so weird for me to see Russians talking about BLM and acting all concerned. Like how exactly is this relevant to our lives, and what the hell do we know about racial tensions in America when most of us haven't been there and never even interacted with a black person in real life? Can we really assess the situation accurately from here?
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 22:39:46 GMT -5
@memfis, I want to migrate away from Russia, but I hate multiculturalism, talks about privilege, quotes that allow minority groups to pass without being of equal merit (like, entering university despite not passing the threshold set for general people) and what not, and have interest in niche things that have attracted intelligence interest in the West, as well as attempts to outlaw them on behalf of antifa activist group backed by a shitload of money. So, basically, I can get in trouble regardless of whether I migrate, for everywhere I go there are things about me that are not welcome here or there. Different things, but enough to be possibly put in jail both in Russia and in Europe (I don't think I'll come to US). As for what the hell BLM has to do with Europe, Europe has even stricter laws regarding free speech compared to US, manifest in laws incriminating history revisionism, etc. they had a discussion back in June 2020 dedicated to BLM which dmdr referenced somewhere (I didn't yet watch it fully). So, at least the relevancy is addressed. BLM is relevant because it pushed leftist kind of identity politics forward, while I don't want for people to be divided into black and white, straight and queer, and for some group receive special treatment because of how they were treated historically or now and how they "need a leg". As for "can we really assess the situation accurately" - no, definitely I'm not assessing it accurately, this indeed would require to come there and live for a few years, but that's the caveat - I'm considering whether it worth the trouble. Is it really in Russia where I would get oppressed more - or is it in Europe where I won't be able to achieve my life goals? The things like BLM and the treatment of Shadowman on Doomworld makes me want to: 1) go into the West with intention to practically, in real-life, counter leftism and "progressive" views, do real damage against the left cause, that results in those movements halted, disrupted, outlawed, with laws they pushed being rolled back 2) stay in Russia for a while and leverage my citizenship to infiltrate and break leftist groups that seek to install the same in Russia - that is, groups that consider "hate speech" to be a crime and practically trying to get opposed, right-wing or anti-gay groups to get framed for extremism 3) cooperate with the Russian government to send leftist groups to prison on ground of extremism and terrorism (like a certain leftist group trying to do in Britain), and thus probably be treated fairly by Putin's regime, enough to possibly remain in Russia for years. In short, become a state asset, an undercover operative that works for free and provides intelligence. I'm not joking about this things - I have been apolitical when I joined this forum, and it is 40oz continous advocacy for BLM, attempt to ban @vordakk for defending word "rape" used in an obituary (which is included in monster resource file on Realm667, and I bet it is still there), the treatment of Shadowman and subsequent mention by dmdr that "not wanting revolution would be considered racist in the West" that has pushed me all the way into right-wing spectre, and brought about intense desire to do something about the state of things in the world. I view leftist brand of identity politics, and multiculturalism with special treatment of minority groups, etc. as cancer, cancer that I need to prevent from getting root in Russia, and then travel to the West to cut it down from there, or realistically speaking, do as much damage as possible to left-wing movements promoting special measures to defend minority groups. It probably won't be much but I really want to make history. I fucking hate left-wing now with burning rage, I feel like I would kill BLM activist if I could get away with it. But, to clarify further, it is not black rights specifically that trigger me. It is the idea that a minority group needs special protection - anything that goes beyond laws that simply says "people must be treated regardless of their ethnicity, sex, etc." and instead describes a specific group and a protection, or compensatory rights package they deserve. And I view BLM as the most recent force pushing that idea further. I want there to be no special protection of minority groups, no money donations to "poor because of color or whatnot". I want people to make their own living, on equal terms with the "majority" without government giving them leg for being oppressed. Another idea that triggers me is the prosecution of people who deny holocaust - while retarded, I don't think these people deserve prosecution. Being retarded is not ground to be sent to jail - if people want to doubt history books, they should be free to go. Perhaps some facts in history books are indeed wrong and revisionism is justified. But regardless of that, no laws should ever be made with provision to defend a certain view on history. And the ones that exist need to be taken down. That is my hard stance - I am not tolerating the state of things, and I wish I could change it, and will still do something that, in my view, amount to some practical war against this state of things, in real life. A war that doesn't mean me killing people, of course, but breaking social ties between my enemies and giving intelligence on them to whatever party that has the powers to prosecute is a fair game. I am at war with the left - I will bring them fucking down. 40oz, I probably confused United States and European Union (and British) laws by mixing them in one package as if it were some abstract undiminished West, but yes, I wasn't talking about Russia. It will take time for me to find concrete examples specific to US.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 22:55:33 GMT -5
This was the last straw. I had to defend Shadowman past this still. I had to still defend him not being edgelord even AFTER - and that was already FUCKED - I said Russians have the right to hate Pussy Riot, Maydan, and not to want a revolution - and was informed it might be considered racist in I was saying that in the West. FUCK THIS SHIT. I'm not a fucking ambassador. Why the fuck I need this level of diplomacy skill to defend what's fair?
I already made up my mind by then. But it was still not end of it. We had this thread also. And we have this fucked up post in it. I'll quote what triggers me:
It's a good thing we have this media (The number one song in America is called "Wet Ass Pussy" and a Borat sequel—where a woman exposes her bleeding vagina while dancing at a debutante ball—is the highest trending film on streaming services). Long may such things continue! And fuck your opinion. No, it's not!
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medium.com/age-of-awareness/yes-all-white-people-are-racist-eefa97cc5605Here's another gem of an article written by some bossy boot-lip on medium.com. You gotta love these kinds of articles that promote "healing the divide" by preaching at white people about how nasty we are, and then asking us to change for a bunch of entitled, parasitic ne'er-do-wells whose only impact on society is negative. Just listen to how they actually think of themselves as somehow relevant or important: "I don’t care about their White comfort because their will comfort is the source of my discomfort. White people need to be uncomfortable in order to see how their entire existence relies on the belittling, degradation, and death of Black people."
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 23:37:58 GMT -5
So, to be fair, I didn't develop the hatred for the left based on media examples of right getting the flak. All the hatred I had developed is over the repeated interactions here, on the doomer boards. And you, 40oz, are the biggest part of it. I hate the left thanks to you. You crossed the trigger line many, many times. Many, many times I had to argue with you and many, many more times I wanted to but I didn't, because you always demand examples from somewhere and than criticise those sources for being biased. But you are the one of the biggest sources. The rest of things I read in the world just reinforce my experience with you. You are also not the only left-wing/antifa/anarchist person I've encountered. I had a friend known via internet for years who was an anarchist (some years ago, I ceased contact with him over concerns he might have been compromised, replaced with a state agent or forced to cooperate). He also espoused similar view - on speech, on the need to avoid to use certain terms (like "master" and "slave" in computer terminology), etc. that appaled me, years ago. I never agreed with his views. You reanimated that experience. There thus a certain collective identity was forged - represented by you and anarchist of my past and probably a few acquittances in the present (yes, I do have some acquittances with fucked up views, like "hate speech" being illegal, or who want to migrate/have migrated and have fucked up views, are filthy degenerates that I'm hanging around only in hopes I get intelligence on them to pass to FSB, etc.). You know, some of them even volunteered to help with migrating, provided contacts, information, etc. - I refused to, because I don't want to be one of them. I hate the guts of these people. Some of them don't know English - and they do the most activism (and the ones who know English very well aren't activists). And I mean real activism - these people are activists, have been for years, and fuck knows why they are not in prison - perhaps I can fix that, huh? They dream of living in US paradise. They watch "The L Word: Generation Q" dubbed with Russian voice and they dream to live like that. I translated one of the series for them and showed them it with English voice and subtitles in Russian to give them a more accurate taste of it. They fantasize about living like that. They don't know what "mansplaining" term means so I explain it to them, the fucking activists who participates in court hearings, collect cases of discrimination and what not, and dream to be a part of culture that they have no fucking understanding of, for they don't know English language. And I don't want to be part of that culture - for me, this movie represents that cancer culture that I need to stop. The existence of communities, defined by ethnic identity - where there should be no ethnic identity, and no communities that have their own ways of living, for laws should be in alignment with ethics but different communities have different ethics and thus will always have a different vision of laws. How come none of you fucking leftist understand that multiculturalism is flawed because you have whole communities of people with their own ethical standards so that no uniform laws can ever be derived that all of them can come into agreement? Had never heard of a phrase "laws should be derived from ethics not the vice versa"? Can't say I totally back it, but - if that was correct - multiculturalism makes that fundamentally unsolvable. For ethnic and religious communities have their own views of what kind of behavior makes one an outcase, what is forbidden, and what is strictly punished. You can't reconcile those various perspective with a secular law, pure and simple. Hey, peerdolius, you live in Netherlands, do you know three more degenerates from Russia have recently come into your country as refugees - and that more is coming? They even wanted to bring me with them. Not like travel together, of course, but provided a contact that helps build a fake case of discrimination. Yes, all of theirs are FAKE. I have managed to stay friendly with them, although I really wish one of them gets murdered there. They're fucking parasites. One of them told me I could use a credit to help myself migrate - and then not return that money. The amount of money he advised me to take is several times smaller than my Visa Signature credit card limit, and don't get me started on the value of my bank accounts (it is actually several times bigger than the credit card limit, for I got some money from inheriting some). That's the one person I want dead, not just for being a parasite, that person has no empathy and fucked over one other transmasculine person who was denied transition because of mental health issues, depression, by claiming they were responsible for not getting the permit by saying something wrong, after which that person stopped attending the support group, and eventually the entire community and is now in the deepest pit of despair, unemployed, uneducated, devastated (not being able to transition). While that transfeminine parasite has successully got female documents, despite not bothering to look the part, openly stating he hates traditionally female clothes, and is now a refugee in Netherlands - as if that person ever was oppressed, cause given their character, they would fill more of a bully, so much confidence, that I was an edge of breaking down and lashing out with my actual vision of them until I started taking prescription antidepressants. Fucking refugee. I faced more injustice in my life than he had ever had. I am refusing to call him a "she" - I have no trouble calling other transgendered people their gender, except this one, for he is beyond fucked. Has a cool card - got everything for transition, fucking HRT that people need to pass extensive blood tests to get AFTER they got the permit still, has documents and whatnot - but is more of non-binary, and is acting cool, where there are people who need it much more than him and they get NOTHING. And he came to Netherlands, like he was oppressed! After getting documents, after being on HRT supervised by doctors for more than a year! Where other people have to DIY because they cannot hope to actually get a supervision or documents, have no money to even try that. The person who was fucked over had lended money from several people (they didn't have money of their own) to try to get permission - and was DENIED by the same people this fucker got a clear pass. Meanwhile, I am still staying in Russia, hating these people guts. And recently was told to consult another person who is looking to become a refugee, because I allegedly have acquired some knowledge about that. That person is in no hurry, mind it, they want to consider what country is best. Just fucking go to Netherlands doesn't suit them. Certainly there is no maniac wanting to kill them, huh? They wouldn't be bothering to take their time picking "refugee country options" like a food in a grocery store. I am told I will be doing a good thing, helping this person. I have a lot of issues on my own, and the intermediary party that asked me to help is fucking me over and doesn't even realize that's happening. I have to keep my cool in front of these people. But I really want to tear them apart. I am on the edge of breakdown, all the time. I have to be a diplomat. I have to help these people who just want everything to be spoon fed to them.
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Post by peerdolius on May 3, 2021 23:50:28 GMT -5
As a Canadian it baffles me just how insanely divided, politically hostile and societally unstable the US is. I'm actually kind of happy that Canada's boring, for once. Articles like these just fan the fire and I worry this madness is going to spill over across the border. Individuals are individuals, the media making blanket statements over entire races, black or white, does the opposite of solving the problem.
Edit: что? Where did you get netherlands from @vigilantdoomer Edit again: oh yeah lol i remember i put Holland 1945 as my location
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Edit: что? Where did you get netherlands from @vigilantdoomer Edit again: oh yeah lol i remember i put Holland 1945 as my location Ah, well, I see now you joked about that. My apologies. I really did assume you put in real location you were residing in in your profile.
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Post by Lobo on May 4, 2021 0:14:25 GMT -5
It really doesn't matter where you go, all this stuff is contagious.
We used to be like "oh those crazy americans, the stuff they come up with" then 5 or 10 years later you start seeing it in your own country too. When America catches a cold, the rest of the world sneezes.
There is no escape.
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Post by xeepeep on May 4, 2021 3:56:07 GMT -5
Vigilant doomer I used to find your posting incredibly amusing with you refusing to download shit from Google drive and all that, but now I think you might genuinely need psychological assistance. This is getting beyond internet autist territory into actual deranged paranoid schizo stuff. Please talk to a professional. "Hating" people and considering them degenerates for their political views is not something a healthy person does. Having one fucking person on some shitty forum diametrally change your views with that not even being their aim is not something a healthy person does. Making hate speech illegal is not a "fucked up view", it's just one you disagree with. I could go on, but for your own sake I hope you're starting to see something's wrong. Please don't kill anyone or pass anyone to the FSB or do anything violent. I really don't want this forum to end up on a watch list, since this is one of the few places on the internet I've never been banned from.
Tl;dr get meds. Or don't, I don't care. But don't get this forum banned please.
I'm done with this thread btw. I have an exam in 20 minutes and I never got myself to study even a bit. Rest of you please enjoy sucking the massive black cocks of our new overlords. I know I certainly will.
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Post by dn on May 4, 2021 4:34:32 GMT -5
I really don't want this forum to end up on a watch list, since this is one of the few places on the internet I've never been banned from. Tl;dr get meds. Or don't, I don't care. But don't get this forum banned please. tfw it's easier to ban the entire fucking forum rather than banning individual members. @vigilantdoomer, take a clown chill pill. Randomly lashing out against individuals because of schiziod feelings of persecution is exactly how this whole fucking mess of identity politics started to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 5:07:19 GMT -5
xeepeep, you misinterpreted some of my stuff to make it seem worse than it really is. I am not considering those people degenerates for their political views, but for willing to take the credit money and steal it, and acting without empathy resulting in another person - of the same political views - feeling abandoned in what is called a "support group" no less. I am also not going to kill people, but I see nothing wrong with cooperating with FSB in case I find actual incriminating evidence (currently I only have suspicious rumours that amount to a group getting money under dirty scheme, possibly acting as a foreign agent per state's definition). Hate is just an emotion, not a political notion, well shouldn't be anyway. On that ground I oppose the notion of hate speech. This is how views actually form. You think it's propaganda or how parents raise you, but it's actual lysocial processes of being groomed and/or being rejected that drive the formation of individual's views, including political ones. I tried many times to explain 40oz that his relentless promotion of leftism can't change people views, and that their views are not formed because of something they went in the media, and can't change because someone criticises them - except for the opposite of what one's is promoting. I had this happen to me before - doomer.boards.net/post/27964/thread - take note one more time, this how views form. Not via discussions. Not via some exchange of what is going in the world. But like this. And it has nothing to do with one's mental health. It is all about social ties. One's views are synced with what groups one can identify with or get protection/admiration from, and are distanced from groups one can't identified with or is bullied by (even if in the latter case the views where originally the same). dn, relax, I'm not talking about people from this forum. This forum won't be ending on a watch list. I have actual real people to check up on, and I am not yet cooperating with anybody. I am just close to do that because the group is trying to get me to do volunteer stuff, and one of them confidentially passed me information that the person recruiting volunteers receives money from sponsors for any person she recruits to become an activist (working for free, of course). Which is rightfully suspicious, as well as makes me feel I am being used like a whore (that is, about to work for free but getting sold). Am I supposed to be ok with this stuff, especially given with how I can't really talk much about it? And to say that I am still staying on friendly terms with those people I have called "degenerates" here, and have to remain so, and can't talk about my real feelings about them in real life? Give me some credit, I am under a lot of strain, and this is the closest I've come to failure so far. Venting out stuff on some net forum. You don't even know people I'm talking about, nor can I do anything about the ones that left the country, and it is those people I described as "degenerates". Whatever the fuck xeepeep made you think, but he is a troll and I have long since stopped respecting him anyway. I don't even get why he tries to talk to me like he cares - I don't care about him. He only makes shitposts and contributes nothing of value to this forum. And I'm not trying to advocate for his ban here either, as much as he gets on my nerves sometimes (rarely though, as he is easy to ignore).
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 5:11:55 GMT -5
To reiterate and reemphasize, when I talked about action undertaken against some people, I was talking about people in real life who are not members of this forum, never have been and never claimed interest in Doom either. Thus I'm not expecting my actions to result in this forum getting into some sort of trouble. I also have no real prospect of getting anything done at all to three persons I have called "degenerates". That's just a phrase that was common when I grew up - we used to use "accelerate degenerate" in our school, to be precise. I don't actually know what that means, but the word "degenerate" became my favourite. Eugenics not implied.
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Post by dn on May 4, 2021 5:27:01 GMT -5
dn , relax, I'm not talking about people from this forum. And you, 40oz , are the biggest part of it. I hate the left thanks to you.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 5:42:09 GMT -5
dn, yeah, but where I did say that I will pass 40oz to FSB or that he is a degenerate? Those things were not about him. But yes, he is the cause of why I have negative feelings against the left. I'll have to use the word "negative feelings", because you all get triggered by the word "hate" for some reason. For me, "hate" is not even an intense enough emotion. Rage is more intense, for example. "Hate" implies the person it is directed at has some power, or is standing on equal at least ground, if not superior in power. And left sure hell has a lot of power. And when I said one of degenerates should be killed, I meant a specific person - again nowhere I said that 40oz deserves to die. You also took "I'm not talking about people from this forum" too literally. I meant I didn't mean harm as in acting against people from this forum with said acts being described as "do something in real world against them, including possibly passing intelligence to intelligence services", that is, when I talked about those actions, it is when I was not talking about people from this forum. But yeah, I did talk about how I developed negative feelings against a certain brand of politics because of this forum, mentioned a specific person, but the people on this forum are not the people I will be acting against. I have to admit I occassionally slip on bananas when trying to put my thoughts into words, and thus you feel rightfully convinced that you read what you've read. But when I was replying the last time, I was addressing the claims that this forum is getting banned thanks to me - which came from nowhere, and seems xeepeep misread my post in haste. Because he linked my attitude towards some real life people with my and their political views, and my political attitude with 40oz. But while all of that I mentioned in one post, the reason I mentioned it is because some of the people of particular political views I know in real life also happen to be really distasteful, in a way I don't want to be seen with these people in front of my actual friends for example, and which made me want to call them "degenerates". Not "degenerates" because of their political views, but because of some other acts they deed and words that said - of which none of you are witnesses, and have anything to do with it. This forum is not getting banned. What I do in real life is none of your business, even if some of this - like getting to know such people in first place - indeed happened thanks to events on this forum, because I felt this BLM/New World Order shit is going out of hand, and I must act in real life, and defend my country against leftist cancer because this is where I can make a difference, being a citizen who was born here. And I wanted to really move out of Russia, really wanted, until that Shadowman incident happened. That's when my plans have changed...
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 6:05:56 GMT -5
And feeling hatred is okay. Expressing hatred is okay - if one really feels it. It is sitting there with hatred boiling inside and not being able to vent it out is what makes one unhealthy. We must act out our impulses in a way that doesn't hurt others. Hate speech is one such way that doesn't lead to harm (because agitation is not what causes action, despite what state and parents wants us to believe). Action is caused by desire, that is born inside an individual. Thus if one kills or undertakes an act of terror under the motive of hate - it is because they are that kind of person, and were looking for an excuse to kill. They are not that way because someone made hate speech. No amount of hate speech will make a man a killer. A killer is that way because of himself alone. He choose the wrong path for expressing his desires.
And I think denying such safe paths - such as prohibiting hate speech - is a contributing factor to people choosing even more drastic measures. Because they never were able to express that hatred, it lived on, until they committed themselves to a horrible, unlawful act of killing someone. It would have been better if they could just say aloud how much they hate somebody. Then it would just pass, and they might have not returned to it.
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dn
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the motherfucking darknation
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Post by dn on May 4, 2021 6:12:26 GMT -5
You have missed my point, re: banning wholesale v.s banning individuals, and I'm so very seldom in the habit of explaining myself. Needless to say, one is much easier than the other.
Your rhetoric, sir, sucks. Your morals are fucking garbage. If you think the state gives a single shit about you then you are hilariously mistaken. If you think that reporting your friends to the neo-stazi is the solution to your problems, then you'd best choose a fucking rope now because collaborators are the lowest form of scum on God's clean earth and will be the first people to swing, no exceptions. You are not in favour of free speech: rather, you wish all speech be lowered into the same shark cage, the one in which you perceive yourself to be confined. Your ideology is the death of reason. You might be insane.
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