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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 6:33:18 GMT -5
dmdr, I am not too surprised, because I did actually remember his post in "Annual Spergout" thread, and yes he seemed like somewhat sharing DW perspective on us, including saying that we should narrow our focus to Doom solely. Here is the post: doomer.boards.net/post/31253/threadHopefully his interaction with DW actually makes him reconsider.
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Post by dmdr on Aug 21, 2021 6:52:56 GMT -5
yeah I saw that, I was going to call him nasty names for being rude enough to presume that he could tell us what to talk about on our own forum (but didn't, obviously). That said, I hope he reconsiders too, it's sad seeing people get treated that way and then immediately grovel to their attackers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 7:09:07 GMT -5
yeah I saw that, I was going to call him nasty names for being rude enough to presume that he could tell us what to talk about on our own forum (but didn't, obviously). Yeah, it's good to have self-restraint and not throw a vitriol into a boiling soup. Just because doomer boards allows various points to coexist, doesn't mean we can go freely attacking each other, and even if it does occassionally overlook such thing (don't test your luck pls, temporary bans for this kind of stuff were issued a few times this year), it would still be an unwise thing to do.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 21, 2021 7:30:53 GMT -5
He uses "very bad people" because that's what the sentiment over there is. Learn to read and grasp at least some basic literary devices dmdrAt least that's how I interpret it Also "I don't even have an account on 4chan" lmaoooo never seen anyone say that seriously. Not gonna lie I'm feeling offended by his dick fetish too. CUZ I HAVE A DICK TO STUFF IN SOME JUICY PUSSY, JESUS. Ew
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Post by good-old on Aug 21, 2021 7:32:44 GMT -5
I'm sure Endless wants to show everyone he hates this forum, but whether he hates it because he actually does, or he pretends to hate it so DW doesn't shit on him is the question. I don't get why somebody would want to have a good rep in a community which shits on you just for having an opinion, in this case liking something. I'm also in his wadazine server now with an alt, now that Arlene left(she's the one who banned my main because of discussion on wereknight's departure from many places), who disappeared.(not sure if banned or left) In the server you're allowed to badmouth DB and its members, but if you just ask them why, it automatically becomes a cloaked drama starter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 7:36:42 GMT -5
xeepeep, he is not the one who needs to learn. I will quote from Endless post that dmdr cited: Looks like you have stepped in the goose shit, xeepeep. Maybe it's time to unlearn the word "based" and improve your cognitive ability (because judging everything without careful thought degrades it).
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 7:51:21 GMT -5
Also He doesn't contest the point that people who made that collection of maps are bad. He said in that post I linked that he think the board deserves its reputation, because we are constantly talking about non-doom shit. When he says he is not going to detest everyone on doomer boards despite his negative experience, he means he doesn't hold stuff against people personally, however it is obvious he still keeps his distance between us and him, the interpretation the dmdr gave therefore valid. And the distance he keeps is not because of Doomworld, he actually doesn't like some stuff we write, apparently. He defends our right to make DBPs and having those DBPs posted on doomworld, but no he certainly doesn't approve of how we run/do things around here otherwise. So when I said I am hoping that his experience on DW changes his opinion, I mean that it really changes it in profound way, not the arguments he might say, but the actual opinion on how the community should be organized, and which one is a better place. He seems to say what he thinks, though.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 21, 2021 7:55:40 GMT -5
Of course his experience is negative, he detailed in his post here why. Don't you all despise some of the shit that's being said here too? Yes this forum is quite welcoming but that doesn't change the content that's often being posted here.
Yet despite his personal disdain he has still pretty much sacrificed his reputation in the wider community over this forum. I don't see how could you hold it against him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 7:55:42 GMT -5
This is what I had in mind when I created Doomer Boards.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 8:24:02 GMT -5
xeepeep, just because someone here dislikes what another says doesn't mean it is acceptable to bar them from saying it. Else you wouldn't be able to make 90% of your own posts, because I don't like the majority of your posts. A quote famously attributed to George Orwell (might be paraphrazed):As I noted several times, I approve of highly-inclusive stance on allowing free speech, which means I also support the legality of hate speech. By the way, the curious fact is that I got the idea that hate speech should be allowed from the transgendered woman many years ago on a forum that had all stuff about sex with almost no taboo topics (yeah, there were BDSM subforums and all that). She explicitly said she allows 'hate speech', not just hating her.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 8:43:40 GMT -5
Also just so there is no confusion: hate speech is not - and can not be, per hosting terms - actually allowed on this forum AND most forum members seem to (strongly) disagree with me on the question of hate speech legality.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 21, 2021 9:05:52 GMT -5
I did not disagree with that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 9:09:42 GMT -5
By the way I would really cut with discussing doomworld, that place doesn't deserve our advertisements, especially if they don't allow us to be advertised over there.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 9:32:09 GMT -5
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 21, 2021 9:44:19 GMT -5
By the way I would really cut with discussing doomworld, that place doesn't deserve our advertisements, especially if they don't allow us to be advertised over there. You're right, I propose that we move it here doomer.boards.net/thread/2251/doomworld-discussion-threadSince there will always be doomworld discussions here due to this forum's nature.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 9:49:42 GMT -5
@dmslr, yeah. Because of this fucking thread, I actually visit doomworld when a link to something going on is posted here. I stopped visiting it otherwise long time ago, because that place is unbearable - any fun happening gets shut down or even deleted/hidden from view, people yell at those who complain about certain gameplay stuff, instead of trying to commiserate and help overcome the frustration (you don't have to agree with the complaint, just be a nice human to someone who is temporarily upset), or there is backseat moderation when someone makes a thread, several say "it should be closed" when it's actually perfectly legit topic related to doom.
There was also a DW-related accident where I developed irrational hatred towards person who was in high appraise, like, becoming a hater. What's different between being someone's hater and a personal hatred? The first is a disease, when the person hadn't actually hurt you or your family (when hatred would actually be justified), but you hate their popularity because it is linked to a certain attitude of people who also act like bullies towards those who don't like the same stuff. Fortunately, I never acted upon this, because I didn't have an account on doomworld. The cure? I stopped visited doomworld for months, and it went away. Completely.
That was only one of several times when I had to take a break from doomworld and dooming for several months, because I felt agitated over what was posted there. I was always glad I didn't have an account on doomworld on that time, because the popular opinions there really made me boil. Why didn't I came to doomer boards back then? Doomer boards didn't have https, or it wasn't configured to be automatically redirected to it. Only when I noticed the doomer boards is now accessible by https, it was acceptable to my threat model to register, which I finally did when the lockdown thing happened. I then discovered the joy of playtesting in the form of FDA and similar demo recordings, which led me to appreciate the kind of maps I didn't formerly appreciate, basically broadened my understanding of doom, and so I started to visit doomer boards daily.
After the Shadowman's incident (where NotJabba has banned Shadowman and began criticising his past effors retroactively), I stopped visiting doomworld altogether. I already was visiting it only rarely, as doomer boards was sufficient for my dooming needs, but that prompted me to completely severe myself from that toxic place, the doomworld.
But you fucks keep bringing up that place, and I yet again get dragged into a net of negativity that place has sprung.
Also, you may be missing the context, but dew and others were arguing that Doomworld merely doesn't want to advertise us, which is why they banned DBPs. And I actually think you guys are bringing doomworld to my attention too much, I guess we could reply... symmetrically?
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 21, 2021 10:00:19 GMT -5
This is what I had in mind when I created Doomer Boards. HA HA! ...Wait, please don't turn me into a donkey!
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Post by dmdr on Aug 21, 2021 18:44:32 GMT -5
He uses "very bad people" because that's what the sentiment over there is. Learn to read and grasp at least some basic literary devices dmdrextremely cucked and bluepilled take xeep; it's not a 'basic literary device' to spread lies.
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Post by dn on Aug 21, 2021 21:12:56 GMT -5
what the fuck is this latest happy horseshit
I swear to god, every time I go offline to do Real Life for a couple of days I come back to find some dw mod has shit on my lawn. Again.
I wish they would put as much effort into fucking moderating their own fucking forum as they do shitting up mine. But hay, fuck that moderation shit, it's fucking hard man. Much easier to just
Ban conversation, and debate, and ban the fucking user-base. It's Easier! and frees up time To cope; seethe, and...
Sorry boys, the muse has fled, can't think of a rhyme. Maybe one of the DW mods - in the spirit of this new era of inter-forum generosity - can help me out?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2021 23:08:24 GMT -5
Why did Big ol' Billy and glenzinho leave DB?
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Post by good-old on Aug 22, 2021 1:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on Aug 22, 2021 5:33:18 GMT -5
Why did Big ol' Billy and glenzinho leave DB? They never told me. Ive asked each of them and they did not reply.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 6:28:57 GMT -5
It's bizarre. What about vertigo? Did he delete his account too?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 8:27:32 GMT -5
I wish they would put as much effort into fucking moderating their own fucking forum as they do shitting up mine. Be assured they do, but in not correct ways. Oh well...
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Post by 40oz on Aug 22, 2021 9:51:07 GMT -5
i dont know anything about xvertigox
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