Some new Doom 1 & 2 stuff coming out?

If you liked no end in sight, you'll probably like Legacy of Rust too, except you'll have to get used to new monsters and weapon replacements for the plasma and bfg.

I kinda lost interest by level 4. No Rest For The Living, i loved and replayed multiple times and imo it still holds up. It's just really well designed and fun.

I haven't played all of it, skipped around mostly but from what I have played I'd say it's pretty average compared to everything out there imo. Maps haven't been terrible but nothing that's really impressed me either. The new monsters range from things that have been common for a while like the cyb jr to pretty pointless like the flying exploding barrels that make an annoying sound. They mostly feel out of place and not used well. Out of the two new weapons only the bfg replacement is somewhat interesting since it's chargeable Mega Man style. Comparable flamethrowers have already been done as far back as the Innocent Crew though. If I skipped the whole things I don't feel like I would have been missing out.

So, has anyone seen Civvie11's review of LoR? As much as i liked the guy in the past, at some point i realized he doesn't review games. He runs a comedy channel and nothing more. He has two types of content, the first being "reviews" of popular games with large fan bases, where he regurgitates the popular opinions. The second type of content is the bashing of unpopular obscure games, or "slav jank", where he just shits hard on them, sometimes on some decent titles, because they have no fan base that can retaliate against him, so he just makes obvious jokes about how and why these games are bad. In both types of content, there is some dishonesty, but the slav jank bashing is at least entertaining (most of the time). It's hard not to laugh when you see how bad some of these games are. But what happens when a game is not as bad, as he makes it out to be?

I remember how disappointed i was of his review of the FPS game "Chaser". It's an obscure title from a now defunct Czech studio. Truth be told, the game is flawed, and it was definitely pushed out for sale way too early before proper playtesting and balancing, most likely due to pressure from the publisher JoWood, who were known to do shit like this at the time. Still, the game is very much playable and looks very nice for its time. For its small budget, it is quite ambitious to say the least. You get a huge 15-20 hour long single player campaign set in a cyberpunk future with a Total Recall-esque story. You have 3 chapters set in a mafia driven dystopian megapolis, one in cold Russia, and one on Mars. You have two separate sets of weapons for the Earth and Mars levels, which is impressive. On top of all that, there are 2 hours of cutscenes, all voice acted. The game gets criticized for its level design, and it's true that some of the levels are frustrating and cryptic to navigate, but most of them are good and the overall setting is fantastic for the dystopian science fiction lovers. It was also (possibly) the first FPS to implement bullet time, after it was introduced in Max Payne a few years prior.
Overall, i think Chaser is a flawed gem that needed more time in the oven before release. It's quite unique and worth checking out if you're a more patient type of player to get used to its quirks.
Did Civvie11 give the game any justice? Of course not, everything i mentioned above is absent from his video, and the whole thing is 40 minutes of him whining like a bitch about the level design and making unfunny jokes, all while intentionally playing the game like shit to make it worse than it is... at some point it becomes obvious that he was throwing himself at the enemies to rack up the deaths so he can make more jokes over them. He also played it unpatched, to encounter glitches and have more reasons to bash the game... all of the bugs in his video i've never encountered myself in 3-4 full playthroughs.

This Chaser rant is just to paint an example of Civvie's other side. Now we have this Legacy of Rust review, and all of a sudden Civvie has nothing bad to say about it. I'm not saying his review should be negative or anything, but is he really intentionally overlooking the flaws of this mapset? Yes, absolutely! He focuses only on the stuff he likes, and glosses over the problems with the wad. Like, for example, making small comedic skits over the archvile spam and never mentioning it again. Pointing out the ridiculous monster counts but never saying anything negative about how most of the levels drag on and overstay their welcome... something i know for a fact that he hates, because it is the main reason he avoided Evilution for so long, but of course, Evilution is panned by most fans, so he can bash that one freely. But the thing i disliked the most about it, is the fact he gave a big 46 minutes review for LoR, but both Sigil episodes got 10 minutes each. Heck, combined Sigil 1 and 2 have more maps than LoR, but he couldn't pay the same respect to John Fucking Romero, so he gave him little 10 minute long commentary videos for his hard work. It's disappointing, because at the end of the day, no matter what Bethesda says and does, a new Doom episode by John Romero will always be an official release... more official than anything made by Xaser anyway.

I enjoyed the first episode of Legacy of Rust more than part 2 so far. I've not given up, but I did go on to playing Into Sandy's Cities by GermanPeter and having a lot more fun, but I'm an unapologetic classic Doomer. I am of the mind the game doesn't need new weapons, enemies or anything, really. Not to discount the amount of work that went into LoR, the levels look great and the texturing is top notch. But the art-style or the new monsters blending in with the old game isn't worrying to me, they will always look like 'mods' or user-content, even when using old material that was left out.

Many people want monetization, but monetization takes something away in return.

I wonder when cash cowing a hobby for money / social credit became the norm, and keeping it as a hobby something to be ashamed of.

It's a vibe that, compared to other communities I'm in, is off the charts with Doom. Too many example of the long con actually working out I guess, from Willits to more recent examples.

Can you elaborate on why you think this, or do you have a post somewhere else where you expound on this subject?  I'm curious to hear why you think it's the best IWAD.

Part of it is simply the very low quality of the IWADs, especially UD and D2. Plutonia's monotone aesthetics is very grating and the gotcha gameplay gets old very quick. TNT has the right amount of coolness and 90s jank, in the right proportions. It's a fun ride, and stands against the "mapping is my second job" obsession with polish in today's general output.

This is actually a really interesting take, and it makes me want to play through TNT Evilution again.  I have played it many times in the past, and I remember a lot of the levels like Human BBQ, the wormhole level, a really well-done crate-maze level, and MAP30 which had a cool puzzle at the beginning (if I remember correctly) where if you took the wrong path you were insta-killed.  But there are a lot of levels that I have only hazy memories of.  It's on my short list now.

This bothers you, but not the mancubus?

Imagine saying trying to imply you have good taste and saying that UD is bad. Yeah that's why it's the only IWAD which feels like an adventure rather than a random set of maps.

As if your hate of any mod that dare improve the vanilla experience wasn't bad enough already.(seen in a couple negative comments on other threads)