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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 17:14:41 GMT -5
As the creator of Doomer Boards I will say this:
I don't give a fuck about the Cacowards.
Also, it is high time we have our own awards, come on people! This website was created as an alternative to that site, so don't give legitimacy to their standards.
Also Scuba Steve seems like a real douche for taking that position.
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Post by dn on Dec 11, 2023 17:17:33 GMT -5
Sure. Stick the boss sprite from wolf3D on a plinth, apply a gold filter to it in photoshop. Host our own DB awards ceremony, we'll call them the Literal Hitlers.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 17:19:37 GMT -5
Sure. Stick the boss sprite from wolf3D on a plinth, apply a gold filter to it in photoshop. Host our own DB awards ceremony, we'll call them the Literal Hitlers. I created this last time around:  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 17:21:55 GMT -5
dn i haven't seen 40oz since i came back, but perhaps it would be a cool idea to whip together an awards ceremony for say top 5 mods of 2023.  As founder of the boards, I bless this ceremony. Let the best mod get the GOLDEN BFG!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 17:29:11 GMT -5
Literally-Hitler Award would be a funny prize as well.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 11, 2023 17:45:24 GMT -5
Maybe a thread to gather some of the stuff released here this year, a community award or two like CHUD of the year, blackjack and hookers.
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Post by RastaManGames on Dec 11, 2023 17:45:50 GMT -5
This is very good Doomer-comrade and I know this from my own experience. I was "raised" by his city-themed maps and he also were a big moving force in the recent community project from Russian Doom community (that one named "30 Years With Doom"). If not him (and also Lainos) - I might not started to create my own town-themed maps at all. Also I want to mention Memfis & GRAU. Not sure about first guy (there is some story about speedrunning contest and demo recording), but 2nd one were banned for his try to defend a honor of Shadowman when one crazy schizo started to offend already banned Shadowman. Those entitled people in moderator's seats are truly control freaks, indeed. |
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Post by nnn✓ork on Dec 11, 2023 17:46:40 GMT -5
I'm actually a big fan of that wad. Very poetic and a total brainfuck. It was also made by someone who really didn't plan on attention for it in the first place and posted it on a whim (and it was only listed in the margins of the awards anyways) and seems to have gotten wrapped up in an awkward position. The phrase "lesbian macroslaughter" relies on some etymological schizophrenia that a lot of Doomworld takes for granted, though I thought it was a funny phrase, being quite punny myself. |
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Post by dn on Dec 11, 2023 18:24:31 GMT -5
dn i haven't seen 40oz since i came back, but perhaps it would be a cool idea to whip together an awards ceremony for say top 5 mods of 2023. Sure. PM me, we'll gather a round-table of our best and brightest most adequate minds and dish out some awards before Christmas. |
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Post by thelokk on Dec 11, 2023 19:05:33 GMT -5
I'm actually a big fan of that wad. Very poetic and a total brainfuck. It was also made by someone who really didn't plan on attention for it in the first place and posted it on a whim (and it was only listed in the margins of the awards anyways) and seems to have gotten wrapped up in an awkward position. The phrase "lesbian macroslaughter" relies on some etymological schizophrenia that a lot of Doomworld takes for granted, though I thought it was a funny phrase, being quite punny myself. Agree tbh, in a fashion. Never really saw eye to eye with its author, and in a way I found the wad almost unpleasant, but in a layered and complex way that demanded my admiration - it's sheer dedication to a vision, and that's worth something. I guess I don't have (nor in truth I really want to have) the required violent eyes. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 21:04:35 GMT -5
This is very good Doomer-comrade and I know this from my own experience. I was "raised" by his city-themed maps and he also were a big moving force in the recent community project from Russian Doom community (that one named "30 Years With Doom"). If not him (and also Lainos) - I might not started to create my own town-themed maps at all. Also I want to mention Memfis & GRAU. Not sure about first guy (there is some story about speedrunning contest and demo recording), but 2nd one were banned for his try to defend a honor of Shadowman when one crazy schizo started to offend already banned Shadowman. Those entitled people in moderator's seats are truly control freaks, indeed. i lol'd that whitemare 2 was a cacoward runner up only because they forgot to read too much into map30's name. not jabba and his linedefstrogen cronies had some backtracking to do i never actually liked his maps all that much i have to admit, or lainos, or eternal, or most russian maps before bloodspeed. i still find reading names like chaingunner, shadowman and bigmemka to be more promising than the eviternity 2 lineup though. i bet the entirety of doom power is shadowbanned from their cuck awards too by now |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2023 21:31:31 GMT -5
dn i haven't seen 40oz since i came back, but perhaps it would be a cool idea to whip together an awards ceremony for say top 5 mods of 2023. Sure. PM me, we'll gather a round-table of our best and brightest most adequate minds and dish out some awards before Christmas. Just sent you a PM |
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Post by Gokuma on Dec 11, 2023 21:33:41 GMT -5
austrian avian whatever -> 5/10 tc at best dbk03 -> cool but might as well have awarded dbp59 instead. oh wait sepia -> overrated artsy shit of the year godless night -> haven't played cuz fuck supercharge, might try and drop in 2 mins devilution -> they've been waiting for years for a single map to come out, didn't come out this year either and still awarded it. i'm sure it's good but lmao myhouse -> zoomer indie game shit udino -> seems actually alright, since its content doesn't reflect the current state of doom mapping insanity edged seems alright too, that myolden dude is overrated but his maps are fine if kinda boring to me personally, don't really have an opinion on ribbiks and hard slaughter of the runners up i kinda liked boomer beyond vanilla, el viaje, machete, tetanus, head trauma, ad mortem, glaive 3. in fact i liked them more than the actual awards, but that's usually the case scuba steve is a giant cuck, but that's also usually the case of the wads that dropped this very day: sigil 2 seems alright but more of the same, eviternity 2... i'll probably end up playing it anyway. that ruzzian community project seems cool They gave an award to something not even released? That's hilarious! The whole charade is even more of an incestuous circle jerk than I could have guessed. It's a really good question, who's the most retarded liar, Obsidian, Esselfartium, Major Ms. Arlene Cartman? scubasteve seems to be a little more careful how he phrases and spins things, but he still fucked up big time. Hmm, it seems to be time I turn my attention back to the DW clique. They can thank Scuba Shill's recent shot across the bow for what's to come. Boy, I do love ominous foreshadowing and there's been some things left unattended stewing and putrefying, ripe for unveiling. |
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Post by scubasteve on Dec 12, 2023 0:05:17 GMT -5
I'm not even being cycnical here, but why do you care? Many of you wear your bans from Doomworld as a badge of honor, so why does it matter to you if the DoomerBoard projects get any publicity on the Cacowards? All of you are well aware of the tenuous relationship regarding the release of DBPs on the Doomworld forums and that any posts cannot publicize these forums. Why is the onus on everyone else to tolerate some truly anti-social behavior on behalf of members of this forum, as opposed to members of this forum biting their tongue and keeping comments to themselves? There's literally an entire thread devoted to making rude, disparaging comments about other community members... hell, in this thread alone I see that I am both a "giant" and "total cuck," a "real douche" and a "shill." Nothing written about me gets under my skin, but you're acting like my uncle-in-law who used to dress up in costumes and stand on street corners accosting pedestrians... somehow he could never quite figure out why people stopped inviting him to family holiday parties.
You revel in operating a crass, counter-culture space and then act indignant when the community-at-large abstains from giving you publicity. So why do you make the DoomerBoard Projects? Is it because you love creating art for Doom, or because you want the greater community's adulation? It's shit like Gokuma's last sentence "Boy, I do love ominous foreshadowing and there's been some things left unattended stewing and putrefying, ripe for unveiling." That's not normal... getting so angry about an amateur, freelance niche community ceremony that you want to leak harmful things about people? We're all just a group of hobbyists modifying a thirty-year-old game, tone it down and have a little empathy, jeez.
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Post by skyr on Dec 12, 2023 0:18:03 GMT -5
the community-at-large abstains from giving you publicity. Because it's not the community-at-large that dont want to give dbp59 publicity, its you and the established order on dw that dont want to give it the attention it deserves. When dbp59 was released, it was spammed in the cacoward mention thread till the point people were joking to renaming the thread to (You dont need to mention myhouse or dbp59 anymore). It was streamed a lot on twitch when it came out, including by stx-vile, one of the cacoward group members, who by the virtue of streaming it, is giving it publicity, let alone by all the other streamers. There are I dont know how many playthroughs of the wad on youtube, from a variaty of players. And even now after cacowards has been released, people who are not associated with db are asking why dbp59 isnt mentioned in the cacowards and are mentioning dbp59 in the missed cacowards thread. And this is just what is publicly known about how the community received dbp59. So where is this supposed 'community-at-large' that dont want to give dbp59 the publicity it deserves, because I dont see it. There is a fucking quest system in -cl2. I dont give a shit who would have made it. that shit should be celebrated |
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Post by skyr on Dec 12, 2023 0:29:17 GMT -5
There's literally an entire thread devoted to making rude, disparaging comments about other community members... hell, in this thread alone I see that I am both a "giant" and "total cuck," a "real douche" and a "shill." Doomworld isnt that much better, even in the cacoward thread you have essel, a mod, calling people nazi punks for just making maps for the dbps. The only difference here is that you can bite back against being attacked, even by a mod, without fear of being banned. On doomworld you are either banned or you accept the knee on your neck like your name is george floyd jr. |
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Post by scubasteve on Dec 12, 2023 0:59:43 GMT -5
The "community-at-large" loved DBP59 while simultaneously finding a lot of the language and behavior on this site abhorrent. These things are not mutually exclusive. Clearly the project received untold praise, so again, why do you need the Cacowards to tell you that it's good? You know these forums aren't allowed publicity on Doomworld so why is it shocking that the same treatment is extended to the awards as well? Again, run this forum however you want, but don't feign outrage when someone tells you this place makes them feel uncomfortable or unwelcome... a simple search would turn up countless posts that would get you ostracized at any social function around normal people. When you are tasked with moderating a large community, you have to set guidelines in order to keep the majority of people feeling welcome and comfortable. This place chooses not to and there are ultimately social consequences for anti-social behavior.
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Post by CittyKat112 on Dec 12, 2023 1:01:38 GMT -5
I'm actually a big fan of that wad. Very poetic and a total brainfuck. It was also made by someone who really didn't plan on attention for it in the first place and posted it on a whim (and it was only listed in the margins of the awards anyways) and seems to have gotten wrapped up in an awkward position. The phrase "lesbian macroslaughter" relies on some etymological schizophrenia that a lot of Doomworld takes for granted, though I thought it was a funny phrase, being quite punny myself. Looks like pretentious artsy shit to me -_- Imo the phrase 'lesbian macroslaughter' is an attempt at shoehorning politics in discussion about Doom which is pretty cringe. 'Oh, you made some pretentious artsy bullshit and you're also a lesbian? SO STUNNING AND BRAVE, WOW.' Also didn't know you changed your nickname wtf. |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 12, 2023 1:01:56 GMT -5
tone it down and have a little empathy, jeez. Funny. No amount of trying to paint this forum in a bad light is going to carry any weight. My experiences here speak for them self. If you don't like this site that's on you and isn't a decision for you or anyone else to make for the community at large. As for why I care. 1. Siloing of the community isn't healthy and is just getting worse. 2. Sweeping "those people are bad" generalizations are also unhealthy, especially when most don't fit the smears. 3. What the user base has done here is relevant to the border community. It's not the people here that look bad by pretending otherwise. 4. It's just a shitty thing to do when we all could at least be celebrating some common ground in such divisive times with the 30th anniversary of a game we enjoy. Should we all be singing Kumbaya? Of course not but I don't need to agree with a creator's, political, philosophical or moral stances to acknowledge their work. Communists, fascists and murderers have all made meaningful art that can be appreciated because we are still all human at the end of the day. You do you though man. a simple search would turn up countless posts that would get you ostracized at any social function around normal people. Must not have spent much time around normal people in the blue collar world I take it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 1:08:00 GMT -5
that thread hasn't even been active for a while l0l... and it's mostly fueled by doomworld retardation anyway, kinda how kiwifarms "community watch" section is fueled by lolcowism and censorship by said communities, in fact doomer boards itself exists solely because of doomworld past 2016 or so. my only personal gripe is that one of my hobbies has a by and large tragically managed community that counts as brainwashed by most standards, and i guess i can live with that... but i can still at least occasionally make fun of your bullshit. sure i can't write holocaust denial propaganda here either, but that wasn't really the point. gokuma is gonna gokuma. but yeah you seem like a bunch of cucks for being so invested in idiotic personal grudges you're shadowbanning entire sections of the community from your incestuous awards (that you still take more seriously than anyone in here does tbh, they might have meant something a few years ago when community output was lower and the community wasn't as fractured, might as well call them the doomworld awards now)
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Post by scubasteve on Dec 12, 2023 1:43:56 GMT -5
4. It's just a shitty thing to do when we all could at least be celebrating some common ground in such divisive times with the 30th anniversary of a game we enjoy. Why isn't "the shitty thing" you're describing an entire thread in this forum dedicated to vicious, nasty comments about members on another site using some of the most derogatory, hateful language possible about their appearance/race/gender/sex/who cares? You want others to " celebrate some common ground in such divisive times" but why doesn't that extend to conduct here? The worst offense I committed was not writing an article, which is pretty paltry as far as "shitty things" go... compared to being called a cuck three times and a "g@y ass nibba" while saying nothing of the hostility and slurs hurled at gay/lesbian/trans people on this site who exist in the broader community. Why isn't the "common ground" moderating the discourse on this forum to be more inclusive? Delete the thread full of mean posts about other members? You want an olive branch to be extended, but are you asking yourself " should someone extend one?" |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 12, 2023 2:10:21 GMT -5
compared to being called a cuck three times and a "g@y ass nibba" Definitely haven't spent much time around regular blue collar folks. You do realize that DW would probably be a hell of a lot uglier than anything here if it had similar lack of moderation. Just because people aren't as free to insult and criticize openly there doesn't mean the people are much different. Honestly considering the lack of moderation here it's impressive how well everyone get's along despite all our differences. Not perfect but commendable imo. How many people that have mapped for a DBP have even posted the kind of thing you're talking about? I'd wager it's a pretty small minority. Delete the thread full of mean posts about other members? I'll get right on it boss. |
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Post by CittyKat112 on Dec 12, 2023 2:19:27 GMT -5
scubasteve Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm mad not because I got banned. I'm mad because members of the kool kids klub who run DW are hypocritical little shits. All this talk about 'abhorrent behavior and language' doesn't really mean shit when people like dew, Nine Inch Heels, baja blast rd., etc don't face any repercussions when they talk down on other people. Oh, but I guess since they don't use any oFfENsIVe words then that's fine, sure. Also community-at-large only exists in your head. DW and ZDoom (probably) forums are the only places where Doomer Boards is seen as the Hitler Boards and majority of the players who play DBPs don't give a flying fuck about this forum's reputation. As for the cacowards... Seeing as how DW is the largest Doom forum, it'd make sense for people to think that cacowards were meant to celebrate Doom community achievements as a whole, but in reality the only thing that matters is if you're affiliated with the kool kids klub and support the current thing. The only reason DB is banned from Cacowards (or should I say CUCKowards, amirite?) is because DW elite has personal grudges against 40oz and other people here. Also yes, you are a g@y ass nibba.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 2:23:17 GMT -5
at least that segfault dude or whomever isn't here to remind us that actual dbp contributors are perfectly clean from a politically correct pov. i remember 40oz somewhat echoing this argument privately which i found slightly worrying, as much as his general lunacy regarding lgbtq stuff, but then again at least he hasn't banned me, in doomworld i would've likely speedrunned that shit. given thelokk is still in this forum for instance how more inclusive could it possibly be? i mean on a practical level and not the "you've said bad words, literally hitler" kinda deal. from what i've seen this particular corner of the internet isn't inclusive towards woke totalitarians and that's it
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Dec 12, 2023 2:32:02 GMT -5
I'm glad there's something else for me from the community besides My House thanks to reading the Doomworld thread discussing this year's ceremony. Other than that, I'm glad I got some closure on why some wads that are deserving of a cacoward don't get one because of the person they don't like.
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