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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Dec 10, 2023 14:48:50 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody here has created a thread discussing this year's ceremony. Maybe the forums no longer care about them or view them as a joke? Regardless, what are your guy's thoughts on this year's cacowards? Also, it includes a screenshot of Scuba Steve explaining why he chose to omit the Doomer boards projects from this year's and all future cacowards.
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Post by thundercunt on Dec 10, 2023 14:59:02 GMT -5
They were OK I guess. Considering that this is Doom's 30th birthday I was hoping for something more epic. Nothing really caught my interest.
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Post by Killer5 on Dec 10, 2023 15:32:24 GMT -5
Already congratulated lunchlunch in a pm.
Already seen convos about the inclusion of doomerboards projects on there talked about here before. I have already said my piece to these people directly in 2021 when the auger;zenith drama happened. Not much else to say imo.
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Post by Nockson on Dec 10, 2023 15:44:13 GMT -5
In fact, I was the one who questioned the absence of DBP59 at 2023 Cacowards. What can I say? This is fucking embarrassing.
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Post by RastaManGames on Dec 10, 2023 15:44:21 GMT -5
It is really sad that DBP №59: "Zeppelin Armada" wasn't mentioned anywhere on the 2023's Cacowards. For me this was a holy miracle in the flesh, where I witnessed dialogues, quests, currency system and working shop made in pure limit-removing w/o any Boom/MBF21 trickery. Bizarre, but very real wizardry that everyone can touch by themselves. Also, I want to add a small note about DBP №60: "Eldritch Voyage", because it was a pinnacle of software render with its fascinating semi-transparent water. But the most painful & bitter thing that people like this is labeling everyone inside one particular community. These awards themselves aren't bad, but all those entitled people that doesn't know a true value of any shining member of entire community (that is bigger than their cursed forum) just a slow toxic bomb with rusted clock mechanism. Yes, within one or few years effect seems to not be that drastic, but we have an entire generation of gamers that gonna grow up in the environment like that. I am preferring to live in society with "fiery" people, but these ones gonna be true humans that is honest with themselves and they are not approving any useless sugarcoating neither creating of the damned safe spaces.
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Post by Nockson on Dec 10, 2023 15:48:21 GMT -5
I knew this would happen, but I still hoped for the best. I hoped that any award that DBP59 might receive would lift 40oz's spirits and help him cope with life's challenges. Well, it didn't work out. But at least a direct answer was received, I thought that I would be ignored.
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Dec 10, 2023 15:51:08 GMT -5
I'm glad that Scuba Steve has confirmed my suspicions about certain wads that are deserving of Cacowards not getting them because of not liking the person. Final Neodoom is a good example of this back in 2015 when it didn't win a cacoward because of them not liking the author. I thought it was deserving of a cacoward because of how good it was to me.
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Post by xeepeep on Dec 10, 2023 15:58:57 GMT -5
Happy 30th Doom!
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Post by SilverMiner on Dec 10, 2023 16:00:20 GMT -5
Its dec 11 for me now, but happy birthday doom indeed
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Post by CittyKat112 on Dec 10, 2023 16:06:33 GMT -5
I'm surprised nobody here has created a thread discussing this year's ceremony. Maybe the forums no longer care about them or view them as a joke? Regardless, what are your guy's thoughts on this year's cacowards? Also, it includes a screenshot of Scuba Steve explaining why he chose to omit the Doomer boards projects from this year's and all future cacowards. One of the mapsets I took part in got a cacoward. Epic. But they didn't include DBP59... Because they're g@y ass nibbas. Sad and UNepic...
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Post by dn on Dec 10, 2023 16:10:53 GMT -5
well at least Steve said what we all already knew.
Exactly why you'd want to "curate" for a community of cucks is still fucking beyond me tho.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 16:20:21 GMT -5
i thought "our" moderation policy was to censor gamer words, not sure what triggered their little cuck community in the current year at least
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Post by dn on Dec 10, 2023 16:27:52 GMT -5
dunno, maybe I'll sign onto their (content removed) pedophile discord server and ask them how our moderation team can better service their needs in the future.
Whoops! No cacowards for us in 2024, sorry guyz. Unless, you know, Steve gets another one for Urban Brawl with it's very important sound design & narration that he keeps on deleting.
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on Dec 10, 2023 16:57:25 GMT -5
Could have had the heart to give DBP59 the top ten cacoward and then declare them all banned thereafter :/ EDIT: Oh yeah, HAPPY BIRTHDAY DOOM THE BIG 30 WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;_;
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 17:02:28 GMT -5
austrian avian whatever -> 5/10 tc at best dbk03 -> cool but might as well have awarded dbp59 instead. oh wait sepia -> overrated artsy shit of the year godless night -> haven't played cuz fuck supercharge, might try and drop in 2 mins devilution -> they've been waiting for years for a single map to come out, didn't come out this year either and still awarded it. i'm sure it's good but lmao myhouse -> zoomer indie game shit udino -> seems actually alright, since its content doesn't reflect the current state of doom mapping insanity edged seems alright too, that myolden dude is overrated but his maps are fine if kinda boring to me personally, don't really have an opinion on ribbiks and hard slaughter of the runners up i kinda liked boomer beyond vanilla, el viaje, machete, tetanus, head trauma, ad mortem, glaive 3. in fact i liked them more than the actual awards, but that's usually the case scuba steve is a giant cuck, but that's also usually the case of the wads that dropped this very day: sigil 2 seems alright but more of the same, eviternity 2... i'll probably end up playing it anyway. that ruzzian community project seems cool
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Post by deathevokation on Dec 10, 2023 17:47:42 GMT -5
Been trying my hardest not to throw shade at the Cacowards for what feels like forever.. too lazy to start now. ;3
Happy birthday Doom, gz to all winners and to the DBP59 mappers for making it into top 10.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 10, 2023 18:06:41 GMT -5
I love that Scuba Steve places the blame on how this site is moderated. Tow the line or be memory holed. Fortunately the sort of coastal ultra-progressive cult BS behind that sort of logic is losing steam. There will be a time where they have to either course correct or lose almost all relevance among the wider Doom audience. And if that doesn't happen none of this will matter anyway.
EDIT: As for the awards in general I'm entirely indifferent at this point. I'm not big on awards but understand the cultural and social significance they can have. However a wad's status in the cacowards quite literally has no impact on anything for me. The ones I've already played or plan to play and the ones I don't plan on touching had already been decided. The way I see it is that the cacowards have inched well into "not fit for purpose" territory. They are not about celebrating the Doom community and it's achievements at large but are only for celebrating their personal little slice of the community. They simply feel ownership over something they have no right to claim.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 18:25:14 GMT -5
can't really fault them for informing me that particular slaughter mapset made by one of the reviewers has "lesbian undertones" at least. i thought it was just some schizo shit with an anime girl in the status bar
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 10, 2023 18:30:55 GMT -5
Hey, that anime girl status bar is clearly a representation of marginalized voices and their struggle in the pursuit of equity.
EDIT: I'm really slipping on my leftist lexicon. I forgot to mention the white hetero-normative patriarchy.
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Dec 10, 2023 19:02:08 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2023 19:20:42 GMT -5
dunno, i talk with actual far right people pretty often and the closest thing i've seen here is some memeing about imps. yeah some people are gonna feel a certain way about selling hrt to minors on discord, that's considered controversial in normal society, the ones in europe that are still relatively normal at least. are they retarded?
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Post by nnn✓ork on Dec 10, 2023 19:46:42 GMT -5
Are you guys testing this blonde bitch? I will burn brighter than the sun if I have to. Though I have bigger fish to fry at the moment you know.
Anyways, congrats to all who participated in Doom this year. I'll read the Cacowards in a later date. They actually are kinda cool to read in my opinion, btw. Happy 30th.
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Post by Gokuma on Dec 10, 2023 19:53:58 GMT -5
Wow, ScubaSteve is a total cuck, almost as bad as that lying Obsidian (see 6th post by Deleted Member here doomer.boards.net/post/31722/thread Boy I do enjoy linking to past humiliations of DW). I'll laugh if it irritates the shit of him crediting him in Friday the 13th: Jason's Doom for the weak little knife I got from Realm667's Repository. Because I put Doom's progress above petty shit. And omitting DBP59 Zeppelin Armada, probably the most innovative limit-removing mapset in Doom's history thanks to 40oz, is about the pettiest lowest shit they could have done.
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Post by Gokuma on Dec 10, 2023 19:56:13 GMT -5
Yes, but it's totally not their own fault. They're perfect the way they are.
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Post by Killer5 on Dec 10, 2023 21:25:53 GMT -5
Huh. I really can't stand that post tbh. Especially because I have met some people here who I would never even begin to draw those conclusions about. Not to mention they are catching me in that net as well. However at this point being called a whatever-phobe just comes with the territory of having values which just aren't whatever their values are.
Would be interested to hear some more about that dude who wasn't? banned but tbh I could see it go both ways. I think if I was a mod I would keep the banning to behavior on my own forum only. Way too much of a headache otherwise (and especially after the 'fun police' drama best to not be involved with this cross site moderation at all). At face value seems like 40oz made the right call there.
Meh guess my new years resolution will be to make an attempt to build at least one map for each dbp this year.
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