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Post by xeepeep on Nov 5, 2023 15:05:50 GMT -5
Cacodemon is a safe bet, maybe the Lost soul and the Revenant too.
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Post by switchblade on Nov 5, 2023 16:18:27 GMT -5
Doomguy, cacodemon and pain elemental.
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Post by SilverMiner on Nov 5, 2023 16:48:50 GMT -5
Doom guy, Cacodemon, baron of hell
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Post by dr_st on Nov 5, 2023 17:26:36 GMT -5
Doomguy, cacodemon and pain elemental. Correct. Here is one plush Pain Elemental with pierced ears, learning Japanese:  Scoreboard
SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 2 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
Xeep-Eep - 1 point
Q14. Mention three difference between the Cacodemon of Doom (2016) and that of Doom Eternal. One in appearance, one in its attacks, one in strategies against it. |
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Post by lunchlunch on Nov 5, 2023 20:17:02 GMT -5
He looks more cartoony in Eternal but I don't know the attacks or strats
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Post by Nockson on Nov 6, 2023 3:22:35 GMT -5
Never played Doom Eternal (finished D2016 once), but from watching some YT reviews I know that cacodemon in DE looks more like its original version (red skin in particular), and to kill it you need to shoot it into the mouth and then perform a glory kill which involves its eye. Don't know about attack differences, but let's say it bites differently, maybe inflicting more damage?
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Post by SilverMiner on Nov 6, 2023 3:46:31 GMT -5
Never played both new dooms, but from what I've seen I guess:
DE caco is brighter in red and has sharper looking eye.
New strategies involve grappling hook to get close to perform glory kill
It can strafe while shooting fireballs
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Post by dr_st on Nov 6, 2023 5:10:44 GMT -5
Nockson answer is close enough. The Cacodemon in DE is indeed more red and has a visible pupil in the eye, like the original version. Shooting it in the mouth specifically to stagger it quickly is a new mechanic (you can use a grenade or a sticky bomb shotgun mod), and it makes dealing with them much easier than if you simply lay it on them with your gun. Ballista works well too, but you only get that towards the middle of the game. Its bite can indeed be more damaging, mostly because of increased range and the frequency they can deliver it. Scoreboard
SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
Xeep-Eep - 1 pointDon't have much time today, so this one should be a freebie: Q15. What minor visual bug in the final boss ("Icon of Sin") is present in Doom II, and has been fixed in both WADs of Final Doom?
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Post by xeepeep on Nov 6, 2023 5:39:33 GMT -5
I don't know but could it be the thing where textures kind of wrap around for like half a pixel and it looks weird? Doom E1M8 has a similar thing on the final teleporter.
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Post by Nockson on Nov 6, 2023 6:40:51 GMT -5
I don't know if it counts as a violation of "answers should not be looked up" rule (feel free to ignore my post then), but I've just played all three MAP30s and the only thing I see is a minor texture error with the Icon's right horn - there's a grey line across it in Doom II. Never noticed that before in my 28+ years of playing Doom.
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Post by dr_st on Nov 6, 2023 10:51:00 GMT -5
xeepeep Indeed it is a texture wrap-around. Dunno about 'half a pixel', but it's 8 map units. The left side of the wall (right side of the face) is 8 units wider than the texture so it wraps around. This causes the grey line Nockson mentioned. The error spans the full height of the "icon", but is indeed mostly visible on the horn. Scoreboard
SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
Xeep-Eep - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 pointStaying with classic Doom for now... Q16. Explain what the -left and -right command-line parameters which were removed in DOOM v1.2 used to do.
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Post by xeepeep on Nov 6, 2023 11:03:56 GMT -5
Oh I know this one! You could connect two more computers to show your left and right, giving you a 270° field of view. I think choco doom can do this too
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Post by dr_st on Nov 6, 2023 11:36:00 GMT -5
Correct on both counts.
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SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 3 points
Xeep-Eep - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
Q17. Which is the last non-boss monster to be introduced in the Doom 3 main campaign?
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Post by Nockson on Nov 6, 2023 11:45:09 GMT -5
Ticks once again?
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Post by noisomedead on Nov 6, 2023 14:34:09 GMT -5
seconding Nockson unless sarges shootable BFG balls count |
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Post by SilverMiner on Nov 6, 2023 15:31:53 GMT -5
sarges shootable BFG balls O_O |
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Post by dr_st on Nov 6, 2023 16:45:39 GMT -5
Yes! This was a trick question to see who's paying attention.  Scoreboard
SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 4 points
Xeep-Eep - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
Q18. Two monsters from Heretic's bestiary reappear in Hexen, but in different roles. Who are these and what roles do they play in each game? |
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Post by SilverMiner on Nov 6, 2023 16:50:33 GMT -5
Serpents.
In heretic serpent is what dsparil, the final boss sits on, and in hexen, serpent is a common enemy, coming in green and brown colors
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Post by SilverMiner on Nov 6, 2023 16:51:44 GMT -5
Also gargoyles reappear as afrits
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Post by thundercunt on Nov 6, 2023 17:10:04 GMT -5
Yes! This was a trick question to see who's paying attention. Scoreboard
SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 4 points
Xeep-Eep - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
Q18. Two monsters from Heretic's bestiary reappear in Hexen, but in different roles. Who are these and what roles do they play in each game?
Chaos Serpent - D'sparil's horse / common mob Maulotaur - E2 Boss / Dark servant summon
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Post by dr_st on Nov 7, 2023 5:28:41 GMT -5
thundercunt is correct. The afrits are definitely inspired by the gargoyles, just like the dark bishops are by disciples of D'Sparil, but they are not the same creatures. Scoreboard
SilverMiner - 4 points
Nockson - 4 points
Xeep-Eep - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
thundercunt - 1 point
Q19. What happens in Doom (2016) if you shoot Samuel Hayden before following him into his office and automatically lowering your weapon?
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Post by SilverMiner on Nov 7, 2023 5:38:05 GMT -5
Game crashes
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Post by Nockson on Nov 7, 2023 5:39:23 GMT -5
He says something like "Don't waste ammo" as I recall.
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Post by noisomedead on Nov 7, 2023 10:27:21 GMT -5
shield appears and blocks your bullet
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Post by dr_st on Nov 7, 2023 12:03:02 GMT -5
He says something like "Don't waste ammo" as I recall. The exact quote is "Save your ammunition", but you obviously got the gist of it. Scoreboard
Nockson - 5 points
SilverMiner - 4 points
Xeep-Eep - 3 points
rancidsam - 2 points
switchblade - 2 points
lunchlunch - 1 point
matador - 1 point
thundercunt - 1 point
Q20. The two secret levels of DOOM II are based on which Wolfenstein 3D levels? |
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