skyr
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Post by skyr on Apr 22, 2023 9:51:09 GMT -5
I'm not using my status to pretend I'm the hot shit or something. I know I'm a shitty mapper and not even half as good as Cuppy or Lunchlunch or any other veteran mapper on this forum. I hate him because he's an NPC who supports leftist narratives and talks like he's angry for no reason most of the time and bans people for dumb reasons. I voluntarily left his stupid server because of this. If I really thought I'm 'more important than others' then I'd say something like'IF JEW-ILYA COMES BACK I'LL LEAVE THIS FORUM FOREVER AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE MY MAGNIFICENT MAPS EVER AGAIN!!!'. But you know better of course. I don't understand why you'd care so much about any of those things. Honestly, as a person who doesn't know either of you, you kina remind me of him. Weirdly intense about random shit. Ah, Let's just say the intensity you both have is an expression of passion. To hell with this stupid ass argument, who cares for how long he was a member here if his only contribution was catastrophically retarded posts. Like did he make any maps/midis/artwork? No? Then why should I care? You don't make any maps, midis, you don't draw artwork. So this is not you using your status as a mapper to act you are more important? Both of these quotes looks like something joe-ilya would have posted in the DBP 48 thread. He's like your long lost jewish twin brother! And don't be hard on yourself, I've had fun playing through your dbp maps. because i called segfault a loser for being gay Oh no, my actions have consequences, who could've known?
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xeepeep
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 22, 2023 10:52:44 GMT -5
I'm not using my status to pretend I'm the hot shit or something. I know I'm a shitty mapper and not even half as good as Cuppy or Lunchlunch or any other veteran mapper on this forum. I hate him because he's an NPC who supports leftist narratives and talks like he's angry for no reason most of the time and bans people for dumb reasons. I voluntarily left his stupid server because of this. If I really thought I'm 'more important than others' then I'd say something like'IF JEW-ILYA COMES BACK I'LL LEAVE THIS FORUM FOREVER AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE MY MAGNIFICENT MAPS EVER AGAIN!!!'. But you know better of course. Ask me how do I know you're underage. Trolololol! He kicked me from his server because i called segfault a loser for being gay, he's still as abraisive as he was, but now his abraisiveness comes up when someone goes against his now renewed, highly tolerant views. (although he himself called someone the N-word once, lol.) What a brainwashed woketard smh. Why can't he just let people insult his friends on his server. Literal, actual 1984 society. Basically North Korea. (Grow the fuck up.) That said Joe does have an extreme case of Stockholm syndrome after his DW bans. I wish the poor fella would just realise that if someone is predetermined to dislike you, there's nothing you can do to change his opinion. Only that person can change his own opinion, you can't do it for him.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 22, 2023 11:08:06 GMT -5
I understand the points people are making about joe ilya, and i agree with them as reasons someone would be unbanned/welcome here.
I'm afraid my reasons for banning him are a bit more personal.
Many people see his 'personality' as abrasive, which looks like a character trait when posting in public. I was able to look past this for as long as I could until he was a remarkable asshole towards me in private where no one else sees it.
For a long time I've seen joeilya as misunderstood and treated unfairly. And joe used that part of me to his advantage. I'm not really sure how to explain this to a reader who is not someone who feels pressure to be recognized in the greater doom community but I'll try my best.
People like glenzinho (if you were around for him) are largely responsible for why I have a lot of reservations about sharing leadership roles for DBP with other people.
I designed DBP for this forum. I want people here to have something doom-related to do other than talk shit about people and other communities. The project's relative success has been seen by some participants as an opportunity to elevate it towards greater goals. Goals of perhaps, it's mappers reclaiming an untarnished reputation that allows them access to more gated parts of the doom community.
People power-tripping on leadership roles (however small they may be) is largely what this thread is about, so it makes sense that joe ilya would be referenced here.
Joe ilya assumed a leadership role in his own doomer boards titled discord channel. Moderating it to his own discretion, he could use doomer boards forum while also acting as though this forum is beneath him.
His posting on this forum was increasingly aggressive and rude towards other members and myself, and his discord gave refuge to people who would eventually start doing the same.
I realize this forum is a really low bar for participation, but i really don't want people posting here if they don't actually like it here. I don't want to be dealing with people who would definitely rather be elsewhere if they were allowed, and they act as though this forum is a jail because i dont excessively moderate this forum to other people's likings so they can climb the social ladder again. If I have a threshold for banning people, its that.
I didn't know joe to be this type of person before but the amount of patience and benefit of the doubt ive given him really burned me later on. I dont really have a way to know that he's changed but I can't imagine that allowing him to post here again would be seen as anything other than an opportunity to use me to get ahead again.
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Apr 22, 2023 11:44:39 GMT -5
skyrC'mon, these people are responsible for turning every gaming community into a liberal hivemind. I'm not even talking about shit like saying 'holocaust didn't happen' or '13% of the population...', but you can't even say you're pro-Trump / don't support Ukraine without getting dogpiled and subsequently warned / banned. There's no freedom on the internet anymore, except for small forums / communities like this one and I think it sucks. As for the reason why I'm acting like such an insufferable cunt here is because I'm having problems IRL and I don't enjoy vidya gaemz as much as when I was a teenager. Lol, you got me. I probably should think twice before posting anything, these quotes DO look like something Jew-Ilya would say... Thank you, but they're still not very good.
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Apr 22, 2023 11:46:26 GMT -5
I'm not using my status to pretend I'm the hot shit or something. I know I'm a shitty mapper and not even half as good as Cuppy or Lunchlunch or any other veteran mapper on this forum. I hate him because he's an NPC who supports leftist narratives and talks like he's angry for no reason most of the time and bans people for dumb reasons. I voluntarily left his stupid server because of this. If I really thought I'm 'more important than others' then I'd say something like'IF JEW-ILYA COMES BACK I'LL LEAVE THIS FORUM FOREVER AND YOU'LL NEVER SEE MY MAGNIFICENT MAPS EVER AGAIN!!!'. But you know better of course. Ask me how do I know you're underage. Trolololol! He kicked me from his server because i called segfault a loser for being gay, he's still as abraisive as he was, but now his abraisiveness comes up when someone goes against his now renewed, highly tolerant views. (although he himself called someone the N-word once, lol.) What a brainwashed woketard smh. Why can't he just let people insult his friends on his server. Literal, actual 1984 society. Basically North Korea. (Grow the fuck up.) That said Joe does have an extreme case of Stockholm syndrome after his DW bans. I wish the poor fella would just realise that if someone is predetermined to dislike you, there's nothing you can do to change his opinion. Only that person can change his own opinion, you can't do it for him. Damn, this hit hard. I was born in the same year as Jew-Ilya... Guess I really am retarded. Well, at least I'm not jewish... Also you were right when you said I didn't understand your post when I mentioned Impie. There are two reasons why I reacted like a furious retard. 1) I thought what you really said was 'this and this isn't bad, but YOU think this is bad so you're a woketard!'. 2) You said Mike whoever the fuck when referring to Impie, and I felt like that was way too disrespectful even if you really didn't know who he was. I mean the guy is really talented - not only does he make mods, he also makes maps for his mods all by himself, that's a huge amount of work and I think he deserves a lot of respect for that. Maybe one day I'll give him a very powerful blowjob (nope)...
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skyr
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Post by skyr on Apr 22, 2023 12:34:30 GMT -5
Fair, I didn't even expect you to respond and if you did, respond with a simple "no" and I would've just moved the fuck on. So I appreciate you giving an explanation his ban. I still disagree with the decision, but other people who are more invested in the community already expressed their concerns and honestly this is all the energy I'm willing to give to unban him. And dbp always had an eb and flow of mappers leaving and joining the projects, perhaps that is one of its charms. (Somebody please make fishtank 2 tho, fun map). C'mon, these people are responsible for turning every gaming community into a liberal hivemind. I'm not even talking about shit like saying 'holocaust didn't happen' or '13% of the population...', but you can't even say you're pro-Trump / don't support Ukraine without getting dogpiled and subsequently warned / banned. There's no freedom on the internet anymore, except for small forums / communities like this one and I think it sucks. As for the reason why I'm acting like such an insufferable cunt here is because I'm having problems IRL and I don't enjoy vidya gaemz as much as when I was a teenager. As someone who is left-leaning on most issues, I cant say I disagree with this. But on the other side of the same coin when an online community becomes way more right, you get a group of whining wankers, who love to hate any group that isn't them and make fun of them for getting their feelings hurt, but at the same time get their feelings hurt when people start treating them with the same energy they treat other people. In general I just hate any community that makes politcs a too big part of their community. Terminally online people are just retards and people who make politcs their personality are just retards, so when you combine the two you get a community of super retards. And I will never understand the whole pro Trump, pro Biden or pro any politician mindset. Who the fuck is gonna be a simp for a politician, who would burn your house down with you and your family in it just to warm its cold heart. As far as I am concered, any politician should work in office with a loaded gun to the back of its head that gets triggered the moment he tries to fuck over the people. But sadly this will never happen so in the mean time I will just focus on myself and my direct enviroment and eveything else can suck my dick. As for the reason why I'm acting like such an insufferable cunt here is because I'm having problems IRL and I don't enjoy vidya gaemz as much as when I was a teenager. I hope life will start treating you better rather sooner than later. Thank you, but they're still not very good. If you really feel this way, just keep practicing. You'll become better and I have more maps to play, seems like a win/win to me.
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Apr 22, 2023 13:20:23 GMT -5
skyrYeah, that's why I said it's a bad thing that DB has the reputation it has. There were some people who wouldn't shut up about all this far-right stuff and that's all they did when they were here. That's why I say dumb shit like 'you don't make any maps so your opinion doesn't count' because usually people who bitch about this stuff don't create anything of value and just use this forum to bitch about that crap. I mean, it's cool that you can sometimes be an asshole and say some really offensive shit here, but if that's all they do then what's the point of them being here? And on top of that, some people who could potentially make really cool maps refrain from participating in DBPs because they think they'll get some flak for it on other forums. But unfortunately there's no way to solve this problem, because the only way to get rid of that reputation is to basically ruin the forum and turn into a DW / ZDF clone... As for the pro-Trump thing, I wanted to say that you can't even say you support certain policies - I'm sure if someone tried to say they're against illegal immigration, abortion, vaccination, etc on DW they'd instantly get banned or warned for wrongthink. And yeah, simping for politicians is dumb. Thank you! Tbh the biggest issue I have with mapping is that I can't map after work and I don't have much days off... And I can't map when I'm feeling tired :/
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skyr
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Post by skyr on Apr 22, 2023 13:58:57 GMT -5
Yeah, that's why I said it's a bad thing that DB has the reputation it has. There were some people who wouldn't shut up about all this far-right stuff and that's all they did when they were here. That's why I say dumb shit like 'you don't make any maps so your opinion doesn't count' because usually people who bitch about this stuff don't create anything of value and just use this forum to bitch about that crap. I mean, it's cool that you can sometimes be an asshole and say some really offensive shit here, but if that's all they do then what's the point of them being here? And on top of that, some people who could potentially make really cool maps refrain from participating in DBPs because they think they'll get some flak for it on other forums. But unfortunately there's no way to solve this problem, because the only way to get rid of that reputation is to basically ruin the forum and turn into a DW / ZDF clone... Fair, I do feel like people have lost the ability to disagree with another person and still treat the person with basic human decency and respect. And eventually you'll end up with braindead shit like the fun police where everyone in every community needs to agree with us or else!!!! (except if its one of us then you can do no wrong (as long as nobody finds out, because then we will throw you to the wolves)). I do understand where you are coming from with the 'dumb shit' you say, its just in bad taste and its not the first time somebody acts like that and uses Xeep as a target. The funny thing is, everybody who was like that has since left the community and Xeep is still here. What can ya say, its difficult to get rid of cancer. And honestly, since the time I joined Hitlerboards, the community has become way less toxic. I hope others can see that too and be willing to join, for the sake of the dbps, the forum and giving people to join doom places other than dw/zdf. Tbh the biggest issue I have with mapping is that I can't map after work and I don't have much days off... And I can't map when I'm feeling tired :/ Completely understandable. I want to learn mapping myself, but cant really find the time to learn the editor, so I understand the problem with time to work on it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 15:04:59 GMT -5
He kicked me from his server because i called segfault a loser for being gay, he's still as abraisive as he was, but now his abraisiveness comes up when someone goes against his now renewed, highly tolerant views. (although he himself called someone the N-word once, lol.) What a brainwashed woketard smh. Why can't he just let people insult his friends on his server. Literal, actual 1984 society. Basically North Korea. (Grow the fuck up.) This wasn't a complaint, but an observation. BTW here's some screenshots with full context if you wanna see 'em. The thing that bothered me the most is not that Joe banned me for an insult (logically), yet, seg defending a pedo didn't even earn him a warning. Unfair, in a way, don't you think?
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dn
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Post by dn on Apr 22, 2023 15:13:27 GMT -5
Joe bores me. His posting bores me. His snitching for attention and delusions of grandeur bore me. I detest dealing with boring people, it's a tax on my time I could be spending better elsewhere. Speaking of snitching: There it is, folx. Official Zdoom policy. We will continue to run interference for child groomers. You will continue to use ZE CORRECT PRONOUNS FOR ZE MOLESTORS AT ALL TIMES. The fact graf invoked the slippery slope whilst standing at the fucking bottom of the actual fucking slippery slope is just... *chef's kiss*.
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xeepeep
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 22, 2023 15:47:14 GMT -5
I do understand where you are coming from with the 'dumb shit' you say, its just in bad taste and its not the first time somebody acts like that and uses Xeep as a target. The funny thing is, everybody who was like that has since left the community and Xeep is still here. What can ya say, its difficult to get rid of cancer. They just hate to see a black man winning. @shibainumaster thats a very reasonable position for segfault to take. Do you expect him to blindly believe every single little rumour that gets spread around? Shibainumaster molests kittens in his spare time.
Here's another rumour. I will dismiss everyone who doesn't believe it as "rainbow solidarity". How do you feel about that? Also: Telling someone to "go check kiwifarms" is like quoting "Wikipedia" as a source. When you make a claim, YOU have to support it with evidence, not place that burden on other people.
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Post by nnn✓ork on Apr 22, 2023 15:54:25 GMT -5
Shiba, you can't even playtest your own maps. Why would you expect anyone to playtest your own posts?
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Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Apr 22, 2023 19:57:20 GMT -5
OH FUCKING BRAIN SEPSIS! Did Graf get bottom surgery on his frontal lobe now?! Unintentionally offensive language hurts the same as virtually molesting kids?! Is he drinking this shit? I swear I'm going to have to load a nerf gun with gender neutral tampons and deliver leakage blocking headshots! Such oblivious shit. They don't realize how serious this shit is or how many people are watching. This site alone has been getting 700-900 guests a day since this broke wide open on Tuesday. People really need to stop kissing the new admin's ass because he's not innocent. Worried about little old WildWeasel or Rachael's supposed nuclear options? There's some other options anyone could take if they think of them. On a related note, the UN can get fucked.
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Post by Philomena on Apr 22, 2023 22:20:02 GMT -5
Shibainumaster molests kittens in his spare time. virtually molesting kids?! If true that alone earns him a lot of respect from me. is an expression of passion. After reading his posts, I came Honestly that is a very goodAh so that's why i was banned
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2023 22:36:24 GMT -5
I do understand where you are coming from with the 'dumb shit' you say, its just in bad taste and its not the first time somebody acts like that and uses Xeep as a target. The funny thing is, everybody who was like that has since left the community and Xeep is still here. What can ya say, its difficult to get rid of cancer. They just hate to see a black man winning. @shibainumaster thats a very reasonable position for segfault to take. Do you expect him to blindly believe every single little rumour that gets spread around? Shibainumaster molests kittens in his spare time.
Here's another rumour. I will dismiss everyone who doesn't believe it as "rainbow solidarity". How do you feel about that? Also: Telling someone to "go check kiwifarms" is like quoting "Wikipedia" as a source. When you make a claim, YOU have to support it with evidence, not place that burden on other people. I can understand where you are coming(sic) from, but the issue with Marisa is that he has confirmed his guilt himself (at that point in time, the txt. file from Marisa's website was already a thing, an he has confessed in it.). I know that citing KF wasn't the best way to go about it, but so much evidence was posted there, so i think it's fair enough. And about the rainbow solidarity, that's just your opinion, can't tell you how to think.
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 23, 2023 2:04:07 GMT -5
On a related note, the UN can get fucked. The age of consent is under 18 in most of the world, including some US states. Sex with minors is already legal. In Serbia the age of consent is 14.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 5:44:12 GMT -5
So going by the latest screenshots here the Z-groomers don't see anything wrong with shielding a pedophile, and they are going to keep doing so if they believe they can get away with it.
What a time to be alive indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2023 6:53:06 GMT -5
Nepotism and it's consequences have been a disaster for the Zdoom forums.
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Post by mobius on Apr 23, 2023 19:50:07 GMT -5
Nepotism and it's consequences have been a disaster for the Zdoom forums. Doom* FTFY
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Post by mobius on Apr 23, 2023 20:00:52 GMT -5
Worried about little old WildWeasel or Rachael's supposed nuclear options? There's some other options anyone could take if they think of them. On a related note, the UN can get fucked. THE CURRENT STATE OF ZDOOM >be zdoom community >fight to kick out rachel for protecting marisa >make a big protest about letting marisa back in >finally get rid of rachel (not really) >see calligari >do the same thing >makes it a vote Is that recent? I don't think so since it has weasel.
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Post by deathevokation on Apr 24, 2023 12:03:19 GMT -5
Shibainumaster molests kittens in his spare time. virtually molesting kids?! If true that alone earns him a lot of respect from me. is an expression of passion. After reading his posts, I came Honestly that is a very goodAh so that's why i was banned alright that's it, that's enough, you're grounded.. might even reconsider your allowance...
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Post by rancidsam on Apr 24, 2023 17:50:06 GMT -5
Damn noisy, nobody told me you was BASED?!?
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Post by thundercunt on Aug 9, 2023 9:34:50 GMT -5
Who the fuck is Marisa
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2023 10:27:18 GMT -5
she stole the precious thing
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Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Mar 22, 2024 11:13:34 GMT -5
That Marisa is Albert Lago Known Aliases: Marisa Lago, Marisa the Magician, Zanaveth the Corruptor (corruption of minors is more like it), Saya-chan, Marisa Kirisame, and possibly Marisa-chan. doomwiki.org/wiki/Marisa_Lago(NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH the Marisa who originally made ZDoom. That's a totally different person not involved in this.)And they can't make the pederast going after jailbait argument to lessen it, because pederasts are after those who are sexually mature. Wanting a shot of tiny undropped balls is obviously not maturity. And of course there's more than that. Someone would have to confirm whether kids as young as 12 were involved in all the people Albert harassed. Well guess what? The ZGROOMER FUN POLICE have not learned a single damn lesson. They only regret being caught! Quite obvious from the beginning since when the top admins had to step down, the moderator who wrote up this sick plan was promoted to be the new admin. EDIT: Factual Clarification: ZDoom forum Fun Police were not involved in the recent pedOnirA vileness. That was only posted on Doomworld and cleaned up from public view after a while. ZDoom forum was involved in the Albert/Marisa Lago pedo harboring months back, and some months after that, unrelated business with Matt's Hideous Destructor having hateful/preachy leftist garbage people were banned for bringing up and complaining about. So they all still suck. And not only do the Fun Police think it's alright to cover up and harbor a pedo, but they think their friends should be allowed to tell people to kill themselves, but if someone with an opposing view criticizes them they still get banned. This time ZGroom moderation covered for OniriA making a hidden sex dungeon in a map with photos of children next to "Doomcute" sex toys AND trying to say it's not sexual. Of course this kind of sick disgusting scum lies all the time and will tell any lie or rationalization for being totally busted. Usually they're busted by their own oblivious stupidity because they think they should be allowed to do this shit and it's normal to them. AND OF COURSE people get banned from ZGroom forums for complaining or exposing this now. EDIT: different stuff Following is about ZDoom, Marisa/Albert, and Hideous Destructor: Cyber_cool/Jankespro12 post that got the one month ban on this page: forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=12973&start=8550For pointing out this awfulness: codeberg.org/mc776/HideousDestructor/commit/141d464b0b362c2c0b6abc8b31a6f4ad15e96f3eText of next post that got total ban for totally calling out mods and their shittiness: Following is the current OniriA scandal which was posted on Doomworld: At least Doomworld mods immediately went against the shit, but it's post-helled now, only visible to mods. However, it has been archived for public view. At first Doomworld mods interogated the obvious pedo as they should have, but then in a moment of severe cringe, Dynamo offers to OnirA the chance to just remove the absolutely sick content and have it all swept under the rug. Meanwhile other people have been banned from Doomworld for pettiest of reasons. EVIDENCE OF CURRENT ONIRA DEBACLE:web.archive.org/web/20240319210500/https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143052-take-my-sole-into-carnal-flames-a-valentine-project-out-now-%F0%9F%92%9C/web.archive.org/web/20240320045949/https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/143052-take-my-sole-into-carnal-flames/?page=2EDIT: Doomworld appears to be harboring this blatant disgusting pedo. Profile pic was changed March 30 and last visited April 3rd. There's been recent posts by him. www.doomworld.com/profile/20091-oniria/?tab=activity(Doomworld's forum software is currently glitched and doesn't show posts after 2023 in user activity) SCORCH THE EARTH! DON'T LET THEM LIVE THIS DOWN.I hear there's also discussion at Kiwi Farms. Greatest shits from previous exposure of the Fun PoliceWho are/were they?i.imgur.com/vWdOIek.pngCardboard Marty tells Wild Weasel to look into this stuff, contacts him again with more info, and Wild Weasel proceeds to just keep a lid on it (which prompted Marty exposing them).i.imgur.com/OUT758x.pngSTOP! FRIENDLY FIRE!i.imgur.com/JVXqIGt.pngBanned of coursei.imgur.com/QEOsurR.pngNax was probably kicked/banned from Fun Police for straight forward pointing out the guilt and EVIDENCE.i.imgur.com/J2NJM36.pngKoma doesn't have a problem with it though:i.imgur.com/ZflaSjt.pngWild Weasel's malice towards the minors Albert/Marisa Lago was involved with:i.imgur.com/roaxNhR.pngVordenko's a real sick one:i.imgur.com/ATq8iuq.pngMore discussion between Vordenko and Rachael. Rachel really went nuts banning lots of people on the forums (more than usual) trying to keep a lid on this, even banning Zandronum administration who were just kicked out of the Fun Police for dissenting.
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Caligari87 secretly being scummy:i.imgur.com/TJ6srzC.pngR\Doom moderators be likei.imgur.com/nTiEQ1z.jpegThe discord chat screenshots for direct download. www.dropbox.com/s/ylrfo9s874207pr/Fun%20Police%20Logs.zip?dl=0Yeah, feel the burn you disgusting pieces of shit!
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