Fun Police

The moderation here is more laissez-faire than any forum I can think of. *Still* they throw out "just like doomworld" as an insult, in a fucking thread that absolutely wouldn't exist on doomworld, because irony does not exist in the empty retarded fucking dojo they call a skull. "We want HARDER MODERATION DADDY" they cry, when what they want is for mods to let the fucking discord clique get away with fucking murder while censoring and banning anyone who disagrees with them.

Sure, DB could demand that we all run our thoughts through a ideological purity filter prior to posting, excommunicating those who refuse to comply. That's how this place came into existence in the first place, as diaspora from a certain website that did exactly that.

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First principles: every other Doom forum does moderation wrong.

Lean into your history, young janny. Learn from the mistakes of your primogenitors, for those who fail to learn from that history will damn us to repeat it. Ask yourself why Doomworld has failed as a vibrant and diverse social platform, and instead degenerated into a socio-political iron maiden masquerading as a hugbox. We – the infallible and omnipresent authors of this righteous digital haven – believe we have the answers to this. In our unstinting benevolence, we now pass on this information on to you.

#1 – The Cult of Personality, aka: Moderator becomes Demagogue. Time and time again we have witnessed the slow creep of power corrupt and mortify the souls of those who ought to have been the defenders of the weak, the champions of the voiceless, and the caretakers of the mentally retarded. Worse, as those blighted heroes fall to darkness and nepotistically amass cults of yes-men around them, they promote underlings from the ranks of those contemptible detritus-feeding sycophants. We of Doomerturds™ will do things differently, because we don't want our beautiful forum to degrade into what amounts as a pyramid-scheme of arselickers.

Mods and jannies are anonymous by design to avoid creating the aforementioned TOTEM-POLE OF CUNTS. Do not break this anonymity.

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I swear to god, every time I go offline to do Real Life for a couple of days I come back to find some dw mod has shit on my lawn. Again.

I wish they would put as much effort into fucking moderating their own fucking forum as they do shitting up mine.

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Sexism: never a problem on old DW. To my certain knowledge, there was a grand total of two (2) women, if you don't count the larpers. Go on, ask about the larpers. We'll have a discussion about Katarhyne in #doom, cybering with Ling, Fraggle et. al about how she likes to fuck her dog and her brother.

Racism: never a problem on old DW. Can't remember a single ban for racism, unless you count Esco getting banned for refusing to stop using ebonics. Whoops.

Homophobia: calling each other faggots, which is about as offensive as the members of NWA calling Esco a (content removed).

DW Mods don't use slurs: maybe you missed the beginning of this thread where I, personally, was called a fascist. By a DW mod. Which is fine.


edit: and as for toxicity having a 'broad definition', this is exactly the fucking problem with that sort of language. It's as meaningless as 'fascist', or 'faggot' for that matter: you drop one word accusation and all of a sudden I'm having to defend myself from an exponentially multiplying number of charges, because if each charge fails another one is simply made up on the spot. It's designed to shut down debate by being as nebulous as possible.

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for the record I fucking hate discord. And as for an official Hitlerboards™ chat... fuck, I can barely be bothered reading the posts here to make sure there isn't any utterly haram retardation going on, there is no fucking way I want to babysit a bunch of mentally incompetent discord diaperfags as a side gig.

Point is that site-adjacent shit almost always end up with secondary mods. And those two power structures *will* end up in competition with each other, and the discord mods - the cool (content removed) wine aunts who UwU at your retardation and don't terminate speds on fucking principle - *will* end up on top in any eventual community coup. That, my friends, is how you end up with the shower of incompetents that turn communities into a commune of fucking psuedo-commie pod-people / reddit.

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Pathologically, pedos are not impulsive - at least compared to, say, instances of OCD, or an arsonist who just burns shit in the spur of the moment - but the offender actively seeks out victims and opportunity. Indeed, to avoid consequences, he plans meticulously for months at a time. There is a malice of forethought and modus operandi here that moves this shit from the realm of untreated mental disorder into that of premeditated criminal enterprise: I'd argue that the seeking, planning, and manipulation of the victims provide more satisfaction to the perpetrator than the actual act itself.

For context, this phase would be roughly analogous to the "wooing" phase of a normal relationship between two adults. Let that comparison percolate inside your brain for a bit before deciding if these people are truly worthy of even a single molecule of sympathy. Or pity.

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That's just it tho: ignoring people like Yaniv as "not representative of non-binary people" is ignoring a child predator in your midst because it's not politically expedient to deal with them, it's easier to sweep this shit under the rug than it is to deal with the fallout. This happens time and time again: celebrity wokebro feminists who turn out to be casting couch rapists, Kero the Tolerance Wolf who was raping his dog, Sara "I want to fuck toddlers" Nyberg, et al. et al. etc. Every time this shit is pointed out the wagons circle around the dog monglers and the "it's just drawings" shotacon enthusiasts; it does more damage to progressive politics than some mad kkklansman with a swastika tattoo ever could because it's an in-your-face statement of intent -- "We Will Protect Rapists If They Think Like We Do."
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All revolutionaries are secret aristocrats.

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Doomerboard Apologeticia

What the fuck is this shit about “DB's politics?”

I'm looking at this thread and Dew (of course, it's fucking Dew) is spraying complete shit. And I'm fed up with this constant assumption that we are somehow a right-wing site, that all members here are some sort of alt-right Deathsquad just waiting for the opportunity to start Kristallnacht II: Jew Boogaloo.

I'm fed up of the demonization from these fucktards, tagging people as “Doomerboard Apologists” - as if that has the same connotation as Vichy. In this argument there is only one side arguing for the other to be castigated, othered, censored and banned. There is only one side that demands that all members walk lock-step to the tune of Doomwelt Über Alles. There is only one faction that – despite outnumbering the other a hundred times over – claims priviledge as Minority Right.

I'm fed up of people slagging and slandering when I have no fucking recourse to counter their claims because – surprise surprise – those who have the linguistic and intellectual ability to counter their arguments are banned as a matter of course.

So, pay attention, you pus-gargling sophist fucks: Doomerboards has no politics. I very deliberately let people argue their position, and it's not my fucking fault that the majority of ultra-lefties are so pathetic that they get raped to death in the first three paragraphs of debate. It is not my fault that you useless, mentally retarded cretins have no fucking arguments beyond “ban ban chocolate I mean ban.” It is definitely not my fault that you have decided that, in order to create a utopian community, all those with differing views must be quietly done away with. It's not my fault that the younger members of your forum are so fucking indoctrinated and mollycoddled by hugbox mentality that they can't win a fucking argument with Glenzinho.

And yes, this place originally existed as a place for people to voice opinions they couldn't safely express on DW. As if that is a bad thing, as if freedom of speech is now so dangerous that you need to call the bombsquad in to defuse a Technician post

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What else... oh yeah, this assumption that transphobia is “hard baked” into Doomerboards. It's not, it's just that my own personal opinion is that 90% of trans people are just the next evolution of fucking Furry. I think that “hatching eggs” is another word for “child grooming”, that the average neckbearded fuck has about as much right to be in the womens shower room as Ed Gein. You have mistaken polite indifference to acceptance of a science-denying ideology and that being a mentally retarded man in a wig somehow makes you immune to criticism.

“oh no dn, how can you say this, where is your evidence?”

Answer: I've fucking met you. Fuck you, and fuck your social contagion.

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There are legitimate reasons to ban, and I think they can all be summed up with that statement: malice as a forethought. Torm's situation is tricky because it's impossible to prove whether his plagiarism is malice or willful, egotistical retardation: regardless, I think repeated retardation is sin enough to have his e-peen trimmed with a pair of secateurs, but your mileage may vary.

The illegitimate bans (which have been covered ad nauseum elsewhere) do not deserve to be mixed in with the above pantheon of fucking maniacs, and you can generally tell the difference by mapping out the timeline of when that person was banned. And 40 is 50% right in his paranoia: I will tell you right now that yes, there is a fucking cabal at work: I know this because there has *always* been a cabal at DW, the only difference is that now I am not privy to its inner workings.

Don't believe me? Remember the Dark_Revieved pedo shitshow on DW in which I dropped dox on said pedo? I was given those dox by a moderator on DW and told to fucking decapitate the little fucker. Not giving names, but that's the way the place has ALWAYS been run. The difference now is that the assassinations are happening for ideological reasons as well as the petty personal vendettas of old and the mods have dropped the pretense of keeping their own hands clean when they want someone gone.

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Here's the thing: in order for these fucking parasites to feel "unthreatened" and "safe" they have to change the basic core ethics of the host organism. In order for them to "be themselves" and "speak freely" they ban others and deny freedom of speech. It's not about finding communities of like-minded people and feeling all warm and cosy amongst some warlus pit of an echo chamber: they actively find and pervert other communities, they destroy the existing user base and replace it with clones of themselves.

That is not what poor, oppressed people do. That is the modus operandi of a cancer cell.

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Let's say you go the other way and start protecting people because of their "status"... well, that's intersectional banning policy. You start making allowances because the people of that "status" have historically been annoying / depressed / pedophiles, and that individual deserves a break... this is a mistake. You are letting people get away with bad behavior because of percentiles. Once those fucks become a critical mass, the forum is fucked. It polices itself according to an ideology, not on individual personalities.

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Peoples' actions in the past informs their actions in the present. Acknowledgement of that past is important, even when it's pure cringe. You can't have a redemption arc if you are using DMCA takedowns to delete all the shit you are meant to be redeeming yourself for.

What drives me fucking bullshit is when people use censorship to *hide* their past. A few examples from the community should be immediately apparent.

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Here's the problem with weebs: a good 90% of the ones that I interact with are a fucking disgrace to humanity. The anime scene is like catnip for deviants, it's a fucking shopping mall of furfags, troons, shota rape-fetishists and fedora-tipping celibates, all conveniently housed under one roof. It's a cesspit; the whole fucking site needs nuked from orbit, and I'm more than willing to sacrifice the non-retarded percentile of anime fans to cleanse this once glorious internet of the filth that breeds in the dark corners of this formerly green and pleasant land.

I reiterate: the first thing I do when someone tells me that they watch anime IRL is to check their pets for signs of sexual abuse. That's where we're at, that's the standard of behavior I have come to expect from anyone with an anime avatar. It's prejudiced, sure, but people forget that prejudice is a fucking adaptive psychological defense, it's the result of repeated exposure to unpleasant or dangerous behavior from a subset of society that needs to be drowned in bleach; it needs to be killed, it needs to be stuffed and mounted in a museum to serve as a warning for future generations.

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40 got his papers because he actively engaged with and encouraged debate, something which those horse-piss guzzling spastics at DW simply cannot abide. Bad enough when someone actively questions the ideology - normally they would have simply reached into their bag of tricks and banned him for being offensive etc. but they couldn't in 40's case because he fucking toed the line. He broke no written rules, he was being too fucking polite for them to ban off-hand.

The Sarais episode was simply the excuse for enacting a ban that certain factions within the DW circle-jerk had been agitating for. And it's a fucking sin that they forced him out of the community for alledged behavior that (a) happened off-site and (b) had fuck all to do with doomworld anyway.

40 was banned for wrongthink. Sarais was incidental. I'm all for exposing the fucking cancer that metastasized inside this community, but put on your thunkful face before repeating some bullshit narrative as if it were gospel.

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behold the perils of making soy-based lifeforms - who do not understand common humanity - the mainstay of your moderation team.

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Sub-category two: Greater StupidityEg: the tragic, intellectually bankrupt shambling corpse of the Left. Have somehow mixed up fascist policies (censorship, dehumanization, state interference & thought policing) and left-wing rhetoric (none of the above). Don't think laws apply to them - which is probably why they are constantly agitating to throw people in jail. Are too stupid to realize that laws do apply to them: would cheerfully burn the bill of rights to remove a spelling mistake, also want to do away with Due Process and replace judge, jury and executioner with Twitter. Are too fucking stupid to see the problem with this. Entire playbook is ripped straight from Scientology; Listen & Believe, fuck science, no tactic is too dirty, echo-chambers & the threat of utter destruction should you stray from the established line etc etc etc. All of this and they think that Alex Jones is the problem.

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as I've said, these fucks are parasites that are actually eliminating both moderates and moderate spaces. Marxism only works if there is an enemy, as a political theory it defines itself as much by what it fights against as what it is actually for. Proletariat v.s the bourgeois, it's right fucking there in the mission statement. And if there isn't wrongthink that has to be exterminated then they *ohshit* and declare something else to be the enemy of the people, because revolution simply doesn't work in the long-term and they'd rather fucking eat the left than slink into irrelevancy.

Doomkid wonders why people think of the left and immediately some triple-chromosomed dangerhair springs to mind; he wonders why finding sane leftist opinions on youtube is so difficult, you'd be forgiven for thinking such a thing doesn't exist. This is why. The people they tarred and feathered to justify their fucking mental ideological spaces have either fled or have actually become more right-wing.

>Call a man a Nazi, burn down his house.
>Man isn't a Nazi, goes to /pol/ anyway because he is sick and tired of this shit.
>omfg Jews did 9/11, man actually becomes a Nazi, self-fulfilling_prophecy.jpg

This is why this shit cannot stand. It's not the fact that these fucking extremists on the left are converting moderate lefties into dangerhairs - it's actually having the complete opposite effect, and the fucking demagogues of this movement know this and keep doing it anyway because without a steady stream of new "enemies of the people" they cease to have a reason for fucking existing.

This is why the left has to clean its own house and can no longer ignore the problem. Because this combination of identity politics and fucking Marxism has created a useless fucking hierarchy of tinpot dictators and - on the opposite side - a fucking scary mass of people who are slowly coming to the conclusion that the easiest way to solve the problem of the extreme left is to fucking gas them all and light the fucking ovens.

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The problem is that, no, saying you are a Terf *isn't* going to get you ostracized in the <current year>, because now everyone is a Terf. The term has been sprayed at so many people so many times for so many supposed crimes against Strong Beautiful Transwomen that it has utterly lost whatever meaning it had in the first place. They neutered themselves, ironically. Terf is Nazi 2.0

Now, do I dislike radical feminism, of the sort that seriously claims we are living in a Handmaiden's Tale post-matriarchal society where only Mad Maxine can survive the persistent attentions of the rape culture machine? Yes, because that's fucking retarded. But don't dislike some lesbian who took one look at a feminine lesbian penis and - having noticed the astonishing similarities between this one and the old model that most men pre-2015 possessed - decides to stick with what she knows. Saying that lesbians are 'trans-exclusionary' is like saying I'm 'gay-exclusionary' purely because I refused to bend over and let another man fuck me.
That's the logic here. And by putting this out on the line, I am now a fucking Terf. I, darknation, have *accidentally* become a radical feminist, one of the foremost proponents of the movement whose words will be pored over and studied for decades to come by my Brave Sisters in the movement who will continue the fight long after I am gone.

Cuz here is where the other aspect of these inter-sectional pissing contests comes in: collateral damage. As more and more spaces become infested with this double-think, more and more moderates get caught in the opening salvos of piss and get drowned. Look at your communities and tell me it isn't so: when the only defense for your ideology is to ban people who disagree because TERF TERF TERFY TERF, then your community moves by increments to the lunatic fringe of the left. It is inevitable. There simply isn't a space for moderate, crusty lefties because the moderate crusty lefty community has now gone clinically insane. These fucks are the cancer cells that kill communities: banning people who are actually fucking moderate is like cutting away the healthy tissue in an asinine attempt to cure, and then wondering why the patient has now become a literal walking cancer.  And so the crusty lefty is left with no choice but to associate with people like Sargon, to hang out on boards and forums that actually present a thin veneer of Freedom of Speech, boards which are universally right-wing because, in the current climate, that's been the only way to fucking survive this recent outpouring of Politically Correct bullshit.


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I debated making this a sensible, reasoned argument, but then I thought, “Hah, fuck it, what’s the point?” It’s not like I’m going to be able to respond or even read replies. I debated pointing the finger at certain people, but that would be petty. It’s not like I’m going to change anyone’s mind or encourage them to question the sanctity of the hugbox. All that’s left is honesty, and I have a massive fucking hardon for honesty.

I am honest. You are not.

There. That’s the fucking sacrifice you have made. You replaced honesty with mindless pandering to a bullshit ideology in an attempt to make yourselves more palatable to… whom, exactly? You’re walking on eggshells for fear of causing offence. You ban and loser and shut down conversation because you fear ridicule, that if someone actually came along and told you, ‘This is fucking ridiculous bullshit by the way,’ the whole house of cards will come crashing down around you and you’ll be standing there with nothing on and looking just a *little* bit fucking silly.

It’s already begun. The chickens are coming home to roost. And, holy fuck, there are so many fucking chickens!

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Behold, then, the climate of fear whenever someone is losered for the crime of not agreeing with certain members of staff. Watch members flee from threads whenever someone make an ill advised comment, or dares to question the wisdom of the sadly regressive progressives. I’ve watched this forum go from a place of being able to speak your mind to a place where censorship through fear is the norm. Did I push against that? Fuck yes, I did, and I would do it again, because watching the pussification of the forums has been an acutely sad thing and some of you people are a fucking embarrassing disgrace, 0 out of 10, shit the bed and pants on head retarded.

Someone has to tell you that. It’s something you need to know. I’m sure you think you’re wonderful, but you’re not. No one here will tell you because, as I think I’ve mentioned, honesty is their not strong point.