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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 14:57:56 GMT -5
I'd just like to say one more thing... I am tired of holding a grudge. I wrote on this thread, because I felt similar to how 40oz felt regarding all the crap on discord. If I can apologize to seg, and be forgiven. Then I would do the same for the people who have wronged me. I think it is time for all of us to understand that there are real-life people on the receiving end of these insults. The world sucks, so lets do our best to at least get along here. We are here to make fun games for free.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 2, 2022 15:02:11 GMT -5
I'll try to break up kontra's retardation with a proper response. For me, it's really jarring to see people on this forum who post very little about who they are, what they do, or what they even like about this place at all, but still harbor a personality that seems oddly domineering. [etc etc etc] I agree with this. I can think of several members, especially former ones, that don't seem to want to be on this forum at all, yet for some reason they are. And they post weekly or daily. I suppose this forum does produce enough juicy drama that one might want to keep up with it, but I see those people outside of drama threads too. It's strange, like wtf are you doing here? I like your elevator analogy lol. it's known to be difficult to post anything you care about and get a thoughtful response at all. That's the internet in general and I don't think discord or anything has a lot to do with it. It's simply easier to write a short quip-čike response than a long one. If one sees a movie he's more likely to say "Damn that shit was fun" than go on a 5 minute speech about it. I don't think a lot can be done about that and I don't know if it's even an issue. If someone addresses the elephant in a room, suddenly a crowd of people show up to shut the person up for all the commotion they allegedly created all by themselves. (e.g. see the posts that will eventually follow in this thread.) I'm not quite following you here. What do you mean? Any specific examples? People who felt the need to speak unfiltered about the trajectory of the community or the state of the world were relentlessly harassed and beaten into submission for not playing the forum game right I believe you misunderstand this and in fact you have a history of doing that. "the forum game" is a thing but it's just the social norms of the place. Every single social congregation has it, and non-adherence to these norms will be punished. If you were drinking beer with your friends (congregation) and one of them suddenly started talking about furries (non-adherence) you would tell him to cut it out and stop being retarded (punishment). This happens everywhere in every single group of people and it's a great thing that it does. If we apply this to Doomer boards specifically, we can observe that almost every "harassment" you speak of (and that I can think of) was just a way of punishing non-adherence to its social norms, the way of talking people are used to and the quality of it that they expect. It's not hostility or "non-welcoming-ness", just self-preservation, a property of every system. Examples: of course mayhemicdestructor. You were a centimeter away from banning people for being mean to him (or I felt like that idk) but the guy simply could not mentally handle talking to adults. A community that would purposefully make steps to "include" people like him... well I wouldn't want to be part of that. Uhhhh take your meds schizo?? B-))))))) No but jokes aside, Jesus that's rough. But I suppose it's also normal. First of all before discord it was IRC. And before the internet people talked behind other people's backs too. People will always have gripes with other people especially when those people are in a position of power like you are. There's probably things you think about your boss that you wouldn't say to them. "Oh but I'm nobody's boss here" yes you are you're the forum admin. It really sucks. I'm really hurt. [and the rest of the post] That does suck man. I'm not in that Discord so I'll take your word for it. It's often hard to understand people and their motivations to do things. I often don' understand people either, like what's going through their brains when thy make certain decisions. I'm just so fucking tired of carrying the weight on my own, man That's another thing you do, you greatly increase the weight you're carrying for no obvious reason. You refuse to ban or even tempban members even though you're abviously frustrated with their behaviour and other people are as well. That one time when folks shit up the whole forum larping as mayhemic and you sent them all to losers for a day was the only time I've seen you take a stand like that. As I said back then, I didn't think you'd do shit to them lol. If you did that more often, I think you'd be happier and the forum would be cleaner. Of course retards would complain about "reeeeeeeeee police state!!!!!!!!! like doomworld again!!!!!" but if you don't clean the stable it will get filled with shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 15:12:16 GMT -5
Calling me a retard, and 40 a schizoid is sort of fucking up the reconciliatory vide I'm trying to set here. But I'll just chalk it up to the fact you wrote it before my last post.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 15:54:02 GMT -5
I'm gonna quick preface this by saying that I'm aware that something really immediate and catastrophic should probably happen in order to justify a massive post like this, Entirety of three most notorious Doom places have perform the cum chalice challenge all at once? or everyone on the sites got web-pox? but this has been bothering me for pretty much as long as Discord has gained traction in the Doom community and it's gradually creating an unbreathable smog here and I'm not waiting for someone else to break the ice for me so I'm just going to do it myself. Just a little heads up lad, as how long Discord lives till this day, that mucho of time Doom community places in Discord do exist. Some have come sooner\later than others, though. I can't find any useful resources that explain what I'm about to talk about. It's like that one time when I have a hard time to tell why really I was quitting Doom community overall but kept to stick to DB, for example. Should have done it sooner, as well as drop the nickname day one after all this degeneracy in civvie's discord during my mental decline have happened. But hey, I did it, right? I mean, wrote that post, created that thread, and I explained myself, got a break, and returned a bit refreshed? Well, it goes this way maybe. This way of picking on members and bullying them out of the community happened a lot on doomworld and it's largely the reason why doomer boards became my second home. The tone policing is harsh and people get lambasted for having the gall to speak at all about anything that isn't congratulatory of the current state of things. People who felt the need to speak unfiltered about the trajectory of the community or the state of the world were relentlessly harassed and beaten into submission for not playing the forum game right. Correction, submission to the rule of certain group of entitled characters that got too high on power and fame, basically. Forum on its own have nothing to do with the policies that Doomworld' jannies are enforce on them, the only thing people in majority can do is either accept rules of the game and keep their opinion off the forum door (and that doesn't guarantee that you will not being stalked by snitches, as it was pointed out by some of dw mods), or say what you are really want to but get a bitch slap and ban here, temporal or permanent would matter not. And here we have a double-sided situation. DW DO HATE US, while some of the people there are sit on both platforms simultaneously, thanks to them jannies we are known as somewhat bad faith actors, terrorists, jan.6 instigators and whatever else. Hell, a few members of Doomer Boards were called kid diddlers yet in fact neither of them are. Lovely, isn't it? And it all goes from THEM. t really sucks. I'm really hurt. It's so hard to see any thin ray of hope through the crushing weight of the way people talk about me when I'm not around. So you do know how I've felt all these post-army years, eh? congrats on such revelation, no sarcasm intended. It sucks being the subject of people's common-enemy-bond among 10 or more people. But it sucks even more to know its from people that cheerlead the DBPs and/or actively participate in it's development. There's no fucking way you'd like to be treated this way. It's horrible, but you guys do it, and laugh together about it. The shit I read that was said about me is just awful. It makes me sick to my stomach. It makes me doubt every friendship I've ever had. It's not even the first time but it hurts every time. It happens over and over and over again in the Doom community, and it's always when I'm trying to do something good. I don't know why. because, hello surprise mechanics, that's NORMAL for people to be hypocrites, liars, two-faced Judas... es? Anyway, my point is that you speak of the nature of people there. And unfortunately neither you, me, Kontra, MattFright and whoever else can change this. We can change, but other people? Do they want? X to doubt. I'm sick of watching people on my forum being treated like liquid garbage over and over again. The people that get targeted often have never once been mean to anyone here, said anything rude or bombastic, I, for one, DID, and more than once. No regrets and zero fucks given regarding the whining that I'm bad meanie phobic bigot. Fuckers have deserved my harsh words toward them, and their opposite opinion regarding this have zero significance, they hurt me (in some ways not only verbally) and deserve my negativity toward them in full. I'm just so fucking tired of carrying the weight on my own, man. I make maps and textures and write testing feedback to power through the pain but it's just getting unbearable anymore. Well the only one really reliable person on this regard got stripped of this privilege to host DBPs. By you. So cry me a river brother. Even without checking Discord, I knew Joe-lyia, and his friends were targeting people like me, and stirring the pot. Oh please. Kontra have you ever been called a pedophile injustly, without concrete proofs that you are one? No? I was, and not only that but was targeted by these pieces of shit time and time again. Did it hurt? A fucking lot and some tards keep spitting this vomit off their brain rotted heads, period. Us? People in Ilya's discord? We have our own affairs each, and wasting time on creating even more drama is both time and nerves consuming. Why bother, even... Last night, I saw 50+ lurkers over at RFPS boards. No doubt it was them spying on what I was saying. And I have a lot to say, but unlike these pussies, I say it openly. .... okay, do you believe in QShaman? dn this is why I said DBs was becoming like DW. Now we have the thought-vigilante squad targeting people via discord. We had such characters since the day one of Internet, really. It have only now a huge fucking problem, since 2010s, when such retards become adored by the current staff of the hidden ring. And thank fucking god no, we don't go the same road DW have been going and sinking in leftism worst of the worst these days. ----- So, regarding the main discussion: It's not Discord that is a problem here, but people. Some of them get the feel that they can do whatver the fuck they want, either speak whatever shit they feel they want\need\urged by their bloated sense of whatever must to post. GZDoom forum and GZDoom discord are good examples of that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 16:11:23 GMT -5
I like discords in general. It is more of a free place to just talk and chat about things I enjoy, without having the constant threat of some moderator or admin that on a bad day decided to warn you or ban you for stupid reasons.
Discord is the present day BBS servers, the usenets.. forums are nice and all, but when they are run by a handful of people with power who can decide what they want.. well, it is a nice alternative. If you hate discord, it means you also disliked usenet groups, the very things that spawned modern day forums in the first place.
I like it here and on kontra’s new forum, but discords fill a void that forums cannot.
And really.. you chose some of my comments that offended you? Sheesh..
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 2, 2022 16:20:26 GMT -5
Damn eleven freaking pages of swill. That's awful. Really, Get a life, chill, or be more constructive/interesting, people. Even if you don't like some of 40oz's moderation decisions or his views he's approximately one million percent better than DW mods, and certainly more balanced than some people bashing him.
(Not directed at anyone personally)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 16:28:23 GMT -5
Or be me and do whatever you like whenever there's a possibility or spare time for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 16:38:05 GMT -5
Gibbon is gone? That sucks.
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 2, 2022 16:42:36 GMT -5
Oh no, his post of all his ports and utilities is deleted too. Terrible.
My post wasn't directed at him and I didn't see his til after I posted.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 17:23:10 GMT -5
Oh no, his post of all his ports and utilities is deleted too. Terrible.
My post wasn't directed at him and I didn't see his til after I posted.
You can pm him on rfpsbs.
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on Aug 2, 2022 17:25:38 GMT -5
That one time when folks shit up the whole forum larping as mayhemic and you sent them all to losers for a day was the only time I've seen you take a stand like that. As I said back then, I didn't think you'd do shit to them lol. Man I wish the ban lasted longer because Joe said he would have hosted an LBP there. LBP meaning "Losers Boards Project" of course. Perhaps I should have been the one to host the new Doomer Boards Discord after all if it'd mean Joe wouldn't get banned like he did ( ). It would have been funny to run a Doom project exclusive to the Losers sub-forum lololololol.
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 2, 2022 17:42:36 GMT -5
LBP#1 Ruined Station - Play with offcolor blighting in limit-removing Doom.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 17:53:01 GMT -5
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 2, 2022 17:55:37 GMT -5
I'd just like to say one more thing... I am tired of holding a grudge. I wrote on this thread, because I felt similar to how 40oz felt regarding all the crap on discord. If I can apologize to seg, and be forgiven. Then I would do the same for the people who have wronged me. I think it is time for all of us to understand that there are real-life people on the receiving end of these insults. The world sucks, so lets do our best to at least get along here. We are here to make fun games for free. Quoted for Truth
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on Aug 2, 2022 18:03:47 GMT -5
I'm laughing way too much at this lmao
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 2, 2022 18:10:25 GMT -5
Having your flesh deleted would really be awful.
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Post by 40oz on Aug 2, 2022 19:16:31 GMT -5
I'm not quite following you here. What do you mean? Any specific examples? There's an entire page of it before your post. This forum is silent until I bring it up, but I do, and then segfault tells on himself by uncharacteristically flying into deflections about how this forum is toxic and demands to be banned instead of just leaving on their own volition. Maybe you're numb to it by now but does that seem like a normal response to what I wrote? That's another thing you do, you greatly increase the weight you're carrying for no obvious reason. You refuse to ban or even tempban members even though you're abviously frustrated with their behaviour and other people are as well. That one time when folks shit up the whole forum larping as mayhemic and you sent them all to losers for a day was the only time I've seen you take a stand like that. As I said back then, I didn't think you'd do shit to them lol. If you did that more often, I think you'd be happier and the forum would be cleaner. Of course retards would complain about "reeeeeeeeee police state!!!!!!!!! like doomworld again!!!!!" but if you don't clean the stable it will get filled with shit. It's not that simple. I don't see that the forum needs cleaning up. The people most interested in Doomer Boards are not benefiting Doomer Boards by posting on it. They're talking about it on the Doomer Boards Project discord. The Doomer Boards Project discord cultivates a support group for doomer boards users who want to use my assets but bond over a mutual feeling that Doomer Boards could be better. Barring making maps and discussing DBP, there's a few that undermine me and treat non-DBP-discord users on this forum who don't share their attitude like shit. The neutral others passively listen unobjectionably; their just grateful to be included. If you've ever been treated rudely by these people, join their discord and they'll walk back everything they said. That's the terms. I've fought tooth and nail with people for years about this place's "image." I don't really care what people outside of this forum think about this forum. But if you are a member here, I do care. I don't know how I'm possibly supposed to further address the issue by myself, and I'll place a bet if I'd present the question to these discord users, everyone would have a different answer, many of which would negate each others solutions. It's part of the bond not to come up with solutions, but to commiserate over the problem. HEY EVERYONE WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE DONE TO IMPROVE DOOMER BOARDS IMAGE? ^ There ya go, have at it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 19:27:29 GMT -5
I think it is time for all of us to understand that there are real-life people on the receiving end of these insults. The world sucks, so lets do our best to at least get along here. We are here to make fun games for free.
I liked a post criticizing your wad, and the resulting thread had some gems to be sure, for me and others! Truly the pinnacle of "doing our best to get along" and "remembering there's a real person on the other end":
(this one is a lie btw)
You are certifiable. Being an edgelord who posts edgy shit is "fine" in my book, but calling others reprehensible slurs for the color of their skin, who they want to marry, or their sexual identity, then turning around and crying like a giant weeping vagina when someone says "what a dumbass, lol" in response to your epic meltdown over a WAD is so goddamn overtly two-faced. Once face being a bully and a total unabashed asshole, and the other face being a sensitive 4th grader.
I actually feel bad pointing out how ridiculous your post is because of what effect it might have on you, but then again I remember all the times you were a boorish douche to other people and remember that you're just being given a (tiny) taste of your own medicine, heh.
All this same shit goes for you by the way, 40. What ground do you have to stand on, complaining about "toxicity" or "carrying the weight of the forums" on your shoulders? You've always made yourself a martyr who will die on the cross for any "downtrodden" Doomer (so long as by "downtrodden" you mean "person clearly in the wrong"). the fact that you keep dying on the cross for people who don't deserve it (and frankly, never requested it) is not somehow the fault of all the rest of the world. You could choose to fight battles that are worth fighting, you could choose to run the forums in ways that are less stressful, or any other number of things. But I guess blaming chat rooms (which have been around since, what, 1993?) is easier than actually doing any self reflection.
EDIT: heh, any readers want to know why Kontra and other people who have a vested interest in hating me call me "two face", "fence rider", "flag planter" etc etc? It's because back in 2015-2018ish, I used to argue politics a lot here, but eventually realized I was sick of it and wanted a more "above the board" Doom experience, so I stopped posting here. I didn't feel like arguing about why transgender people should have the right to get married and join the military on a fucking Doom forum. I realized that is fucking moronic and a waste of my time. I also used to be more of a "freeze peach absolutist" but kind of grew out of it.
Those were my MASSIVE TRANSGRESSIONS, lol. Never did I try and prevent anyone else from continuing to argue politics here or say edgy shit here, or whatever the fuck else. I just came to understand why the old-batch DW staff wanted to make Doomworld more "Doom oriented" and less political-argumentation oriented. The only reason old DW users (like me) ever pushed back against that move in the first place was because Doomworld having a "religion and politics" section despite being a gaming forum was kind of a cool, unique feature back in the early/mid 2000s. Now, the whole internet is an unending politically-fueled argument, and Doomworld not having that shit (at least not nearly as much) is the cool, unique feature.
So yeah, I used to love mixing my political-argument-shit time and my Doom time, then realized that was dumb. Big asshole move, I know. Just wanted to set the record straight in public, not that it matters. None of this matters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 19:36:24 GMT -5
I'm not quite following you here. What do you mean? Any specific examples? There's an entire page of it before your post. This forum is silent until I bring it up, but I do, and then segfault tells on himself by uncharacteristically flying into deflections about how this forum is toxic and demands to be banned instead of just leaving on their own volition. Maybe you're numb to it by now but does that seem like a normal response to what I wrote? That's another thing you do, you greatly increase the weight you're carrying for no obvious reason. You refuse to ban or even tempban members even though you're abviously frustrated with their behaviour and other people are as well. That one time when folks shit up the whole forum larping as mayhemic and you sent them all to losers for a day was the only time I've seen you take a stand like that. As I said back then, I didn't think you'd do shit to them lol. If you did that more often, I think you'd be happier and the forum would be cleaner. Of course retards would complain about "reeeeeeeeee police state!!!!!!!!! like doomworld again!!!!!" but if you don't clean the stable it will get filled with shit. It's not that simple. I don't see that the forum needs cleaning up. The people most interested in Doomer Boards are not benefiting Doomer Boards by posting on it. They're talking about it on the Doomer Boards Project discord. The Doomer Boards Project discord cultivates a support group for doomer boards users who want to use my assets but bond over a mutual feeling that Doomer Boards could be better. Barring making maps and discussing DBP, there's a few that undermine me and treat non-DBP-discord users on this forum who don't share their attitude like shit. The neutral others passively listen unobjectionably; their just grateful to be included. If you've ever been treated rudely by these people, join their discord and they'll walk back everything they said. That's the terms. I've fought tooth and nail with people for years about this place's "image." I don't really care what people outside of this forum think about this forum. But if you are a member here, I do care. I don't know how I'm possibly supposed to further address the issue by myself, and I'll place a bet if I'd present the question to these discord users, everyone would have a different answer, many of which would negate each others solutions. It's part of the bond not to come up with solutions, but to commiserate over the problem. HEY EVERYONE WHAT DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE DONE TO IMPROVE DOOMER BOARDS IMAGE? ^ There ya go, have at it. If you think that I'm so malicious that I'm "telling on myself" by providing actual criticism to your face (which is, as far as I can tell, what you're really upset about, right? people being two-faced?) and that I'm just taking advantage of you, then why not just ban me and be done with it? It won't be the first time I've gotten kicked out of a place for being a misfit among misfits, and it certainly won't be the last. I've tried being polite in the past out of respect for you as a person but apparently that's just not how things are done around here. You're upset that I'm not talking to you but are instead talking elsewhere? Well, here I am right now, ready to talk to you. Are you going to engage with anything I say or are you just going to call me a homewrecker? If you truly honestly believe that last part, then fucking ban me. Unlike some people here I'm not going to give you the satisfaction of leaving on my own.
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Post by 40oz on Aug 2, 2022 19:41:39 GMT -5
providing actual criticism to your face where?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 19:43:33 GMT -5
providing actual criticism to your face where? If you want something open on your forum, here it is: this place sucks for the exact opposite reasons Doomworld does. I have no problems participating in the DBPs and I like working with the people there, but when it comes to how this place is run there are some serious issues that need to be addressed. The last time I said this I was told to fuck off and called a "triggered lib" so whether or not you actually want a viable community or if you just want a place where people who don't actually do anything with Doom but just want another place to post insane hateful shit, that's up to you, but that's where it stands. I'm not gonna lie and act like it doesn't suck to find out people are acting one way to your face but in a different way elsewhere. Perhaps my own mistake in all of this was not being more vocal about my disgust at the level of hate that's present here. If I didn't like you, 40, I wouldn't have signed up to join here and work on DBPs in the first place. There's a lot of cool people here and I really want to make this work. But I also think there's two separate communities here: the one built around the old Dumbworld, and the one that's built over time, and is continuing to be built, by DBPs. Now they're clashing.
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Post by 40oz on Aug 2, 2022 19:56:03 GMT -5
If you want something open on your forum, here it is: this place sucks for the exact opposite reasons Doomworld does. I have no problems participating in the DBPs and I like working with the people there, but when it comes to how this place is run there are some serious issues that need to be addressed. The last time I said this I was told to fuck off and called a "triggered lib" so whether or not you actually want a viable community or if you just want a place where people who don't actually do anything with Doom but just want another place to post insane hateful shit, that's up to you, but that's where it stands. What do you want me to do about this? The person that called you a triggered lib deleted their account three weeks ago, Also he's on the discord but that doesn't change how you feel about this place specifically?? You didn't report the post, how was I supposed to know you were effected by it? But I also think there's two separate communities here: the one built around the old Dumbworld, and the one that's built over time, and is continuing to be built, by DBPs. Now they're clashing. What do you want done about this?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 20:07:11 GMT -5
If you want something open on your forum, here it is: this place sucks for the exact opposite reasons Doomworld does. I have no problems participating in the DBPs and I like working with the people there, but when it comes to how this place is run there are some serious issues that need to be addressed. The last time I said this I was told to fuck off and called a "triggered lib" so whether or not you actually want a viable community or if you just want a place where people who don't actually do anything with Doom but just want another place to post insane hateful shit, that's up to you, but that's where it stands. What do you want me to do about this? The person that called you a triggered lib deleted their account three weeks ago, Also he's on the discord but that doesn't change how you feel about this place specifically?? You didn't report the post, how was I supposed to know you were effected by it? But I also think there's two separate communities here: the one built around the old Dumbworld, and the one that's built over time, and is continuing to be built, by DBPs. Now they're clashing. What do you want done about this? I'm not thrilled that people like Bob Page or Tainted Slav being in that Discord and I've been pretty open about that, but guess what? When Slav wouldn't shut the fuck up about Major Arlene, Joe-Ilya actually did something about it that seems impossible for you: literally anything. Specifically, he told him that if he didn't shut the fuck up about Arlene or stop posting transphobic bullshit that he'd get banned from the Discord. The best you've been able to do is a "c'mon don't do that that's mean ". Guess what? It fuckin' worked. As for the rift in the community and the two separate demographics: I dunno man. I spent a pretty significant chunk of my life the past few months contributing to DBPs. I'm a perfectionist and a slow mapper so making one of my maps for the projects takes me two to three weeks, but I think the results speak for themselves. Now, I'm not saying that I should get a crown and scepter or political immunity or even a gold fuckin sticker for how I choose to spend my free time, and I fully believe the years of effort you've poured into making DBPs what they are is by itself incredibly noteworthy and isn't getting anywhere near the recognition it should, but at the same time I don't appreciate being accused of homewrecking because I don't want to spend the rest of my free time posting on a forum where the most popular topics of discussion are 1) how much we hate Doomworld in general and Major Arlene in particular, 2) determining to what exact degree we should exterminate the untermenschen, and 3) why its so unfair that everybody else is so mean to us we've done nothing wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 20:26:21 GMT -5
I think it is time for all of us to understand that there are real-life people on the receiving end of these insults. The world sucks, so lets do our best to at least get along here. We are here to make fun games for free.
I liked a post criticizing your wad, and the resulting thread had some gems to be sure, for me and others! Truly the pinnacle of "doing our best to get along" and "remembering there's a real person on the other end":
(this one is a lie btw)
You are certifiable. Being an edgelord who posts edgy shit is "fine" in my book, but calling others reprehensible slurs for the color of their skin, who they want to marry, or their sexual identity, then turning around and crying like a giant weeping vagina when someone says "what a dumbass, lol" in response to your epic meltdown over a WAD is so goddamn overtly two-faced. Once face being a bully and a total unabashed asshole, and the other face being a sensitive 4th grader.
I actually feel bad pointing out how ridiculous your post is because of what effect it might have on you, but then again I remember all the times you were a boorish douche to other people and remember that you're just being given a (tiny) taste of your own medicine, heh.
All this same shit goes for you by the way, 40. What ground do you have to stand on, complaining about "toxicity" or "carrying the weight of the forums" on your shoulders? You've always made yourself a martyr who will die on the cross for any "downtrodden" Doomer (so long as by "downtrodden" you mean "person clearly in the wrong"). the fact that you keep dying on the cross for people who don't deserve it (and frankly, never requested it) is not somehow the fault of all the rest of the world. You could choose to fight battles that are worth fighting, you could choose to run the forums in ways that are less stressful, or any other number of things. But I guess blaming chat rooms (which have been around since, what, 1993?) is easier than actually doing any self reflection.
EDIT: heh, any readers want to know why Kontra and other people who have a vested interest in hating me call me "two face", "fence rider", "flag planter" etc etc? It's because back in 2015-2018ish, I used to argue politics a lot here, but eventually realized I was sick of it and wanted a more "above the board" Doom experience, so I stopped posting here. I didn't feel like arguing about why transgender people should have the right to get married and join the military on a fucking Doom forum. I realized that is fucking moronic and a waste of my time. I also used to be more of a "freeze peach absolutist" but kind of grew out of it.
Those were my MASSIVE TRANSGRESSIONS, lol. Never did I try and prevent anyone else from continuing to argue politics here or say edgy shit here, or whatever the fuck else. I just came to understand why the old-batch DW staff wanted to make Doomworld more "Doom oriented" and less political-argumentation oriented. The only reason old DW users (like me) ever pushed back against that move in the first place was because Doomworld having a "religion and politics" section despite being a gaming forum was kind of a cool, unique feature back in the early/mid 2000s. Now, the whole internet is an unending politically-fueled argument, and Doomworld not having that shit (at least not nearly as much) is the cool, unique feature.
So yeah, I used to love mixing my political-argument-shit time and my Doom time, then realized that was dumb. Big asshole move, I know. Just wanted to set the record straight in public, not that it matters. None of this matters.
I've never said anything racist, or homophobic. Frankly, I'm not even mad at you. But now you seem to be trying hard to keep on being hostile towards me. Even after I already tried making peace. I didn't even know you had these attitudes towards me, which is why I simply PMed you to ask what was up. But it seems like you're committed to being negative.
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Gokuma
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by Gokuma on Aug 2, 2022 20:36:05 GMT -5
Marxists aren't people though.
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