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Post by Justince on May 30, 2020 13:15:39 GMT -5
Ah so he was a sick man. That made leaning on his neck for 8 minutes even more necessary for the safety of the officers. We can rest easier now.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 16:39:51 GMT -5
Ah so he was a sick man. That made leaning on his neck for 8 minutes even more necessary for the safety of the officers. We can rest easier now. He wasn't a murderer, rapist or bank robber, just a petty criminal. The cop could have just handcuffed him and done this more quietly, freaking out the bystanders was not necessary. No need to strangle him for 8 minutes. He was begging for his life so it's not like the cop didn't know.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2020 17:01:06 GMT -5
But guys whatever you do, don't let the facts get in the way of your virtue-signaling. Dis be a murda an sheeit! Burn da town down! Loot e'erythang! Oh no, a pseudo-klansman is judging me, I'm positively mortified
Also, you were right Justince, they were paid security for CNN, so I will definitely eat crow on that one. I still don't get what was up with the other cop though, the window smasher, and there are ample videos of police violence going around right now - but what with the multiple riots happening around the country that isn't surprising.
I just have to wonder about the sanity of the people who see this kind of shit happening and think it's just going on for no reason. I don't like to see violence, I don't like to see protests or riots, but JFK put it really well when he said "those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."
The status quo is in need of a few very basic but very fundamental changes. Things continuing as they are just seems unsustainable no matter how I slice it.
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Post by Justince on May 30, 2020 20:07:10 GMT -5
Also, you were right Justince, they were paid security for CNN, so I will definitely eat crow on that one. I still don't get what was up with the other cop though, the window smasher, and there are ample videos of police violence going around right now - but what with the multiple riots happening around the country that isn't surprising. Don't even sweat it man, honestly our media coverage is a shitstorm anyway. Besides if you walked up to me and told me cops were out there in the midst of the riots I'd still believe it. Not because black rioters need any help 'looking bad', but for the far more simplistic answer that they are simply fucking assholes.
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Post by dmdr on May 30, 2020 20:23:52 GMT -5
The journalist who wrote the linked article, and the authors of all the similar articles bringing up Chauvin's history, as you know perfectly well. Okay, but whether or not these people care objectively does not make it any more relevant. In such an obvious case of murder, the killer's history is hardly relevant other than looking into motive. As I said, his behavior in completely unrelated situations should have no bearing on this case, which just to remind you, is someone being very obviously strangled to death in public by the police, completely deprived of their right to a trial and their right not to be murdered.
The fact that you think being talked to like trash by the police is okay or just some little line to joke about just means you're a sub when it comes to authoritarianism. It doesn't actually make police bullying/brutality any more okay or have any bearing on the outside world at all really, other than telling us all you think cops wiping their asses with codified law is no biggie.
Also, basically everything 40oz said. For a complaint to have actually been put on his record for being a fucking prick is actually pretty surprising. Again, I know that's just something to joke about, it's just people's rights and lives. Who gives a fuck.
I notice you didn't complain about his history being bought up when Justince posted the following: Here's some stuff I can back up: Chauvin, who joined the force in 2001, has also been involved in several other police-involved shootings throughout his career. According to Communities United Against Police Brutality, 10 complaints have been filed against the now-former police officer—but Chauvin only ever received two verbal reprimands.Chauvin also has been the subject of multiple internal complaints, according to a database compiled by Communities United Against Police Brutality.In 2006, Chauvin was involved in the fatal shooting of 42-year-old Wayne Reyes (black), who allegedly stabbed two people before reportedly turning a gun on police. Chauvin was among six officers to respond to the stabbing.In 2011, the officer was also one of five officers placed on a standard three-day leave after the non-fatal shooting of a Native American man.Could it be that it's fine to do when it's useful to you? muh prinsipuls Also, don't give me that shit about being a 'sub to authoritarianism.' Putting myself in opposition to the media narrative and sticking up for the latest witch hunt victim is, uh, exactly the opposite of that (and he is a victim of a witch hunt, whether he's a nice guy or not. The facts omitted from the articles quoted by Justince and DoomRo are proof of that, as I could find further details using Google in about 10 minutes, meaning the journos writing that shit had access to them too. But they chose to leave them out because they'd make him look like less of a ravening bigot). Hilary fuckin Clinton referred to people like me as 'a basket of deplorables' not that long ago, clearly the ruling classes are right wingers! Hurr durr but Trump's the president so hurrrrrrrrh pseudo klansmen. 40oz prove that the cops 'look after their own'.* You can make those sorts of claims all you want, but you made a similar one about the reliability of FBI statistics for which your evidence that they '[lie] about everything' is that their now ex- (I think) director spouted a bunch of bullshit about various nazi boogeymen colluding with Trump (editorialising by me), which seems suspiciously left-wing somehow. Incidentally, given my posts in this thread, are you willing to admit that the media did, in fact, spin Chauvin's life history to make him look as bad as possible? * edit: by which I mean, that there's systematic, widespread issues with same. Obviously there are plenty of dodgy cops, but that doesn't imply the system's fucked.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 1:41:06 GMT -5
I am all for reducing police brutality but how is looting protesting? It seems more like these people are using George as an excuse to pillage. If you really gotta, positively have to burn and pillage (AND YOU SHOULD NOT) why not target government buildings instead?
These folks are doing a fine job reinforcing stereotypes about black people! I'm sure some white Americans with white guilt will call this justice for some low IQ reason.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 31, 2020 3:07:11 GMT -5
Nobody's gonna support these fellas with them doing things like this. They're only making their own lives worse here, it's their city, it's up to them to actually live there once all this ends. This is why Trump called them "thugs" yet they seem to object for some reason lol. They're not proving any point this way.
Honestly everyone seems retarded here
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 7:24:19 GMT -5
I have to say this whole thing came as a bit of a surprise to me. From observing the internet in the recent years I kinda had this image that Americans already more or less solved all serious social problems and have to "pull issues out of their ass" now (e.g. gender pronouns or some girl wearing a Chinese costume for Halloween). I didn't realise there was still such blatant racism going on. Why don't I hear about it more often? Feels like it's been quite a while since #BlackLivesMatter and all that. Is it because ridiculous Tumblr drama generates more clicks?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 7:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 9:13:52 GMT -5
I await the MMORPG that is real life's tower defense event to launch yet again during this riot.
EDIT: I was worried about small local businesses and the livelihoods of many the most during this quarantine we're in but now here comes these riots that are actually destroying them and I really do NOT like that.
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Post by 40oz on May 31, 2020 10:48:29 GMT -5
I gotta talk about something really important that I can only really know from having been there and witnessed it myself. I attended the #BlackLivesMatter protest near me at the Philadelphia art museum. For my own vanity, ive been following this story very closely hoping to find myself land in people's photos/videos/Insta stories during this historic event -- and I did! Thats me!Things are very chaotic right now so its difficult to find bona fide proof, so please, for the moment, trust that I don't have any real reason to be anything but totally genuine about this. It's hard to get irrefutable evidence of it but from what I've seen in person, mixed in random photos and videos and posts i see from other people who have been there, theres a bit of a manufactured story to all that's happening and I don't think it's circumstansial. I think it's carefully planned and executed. When I found out about the protest at philadelphia art museum which was shared a day prior via facebook event invites, there was a little bit of buzz about a different protest happening at City Hall scheduled for the same time, and the event planner said to be doing it because they tried to get in contact with BlackLivesMatters' Philadelphia representative and it was ignored because he "doesn't really care about racial justice" I later saw some buzz from a few random loud people urging people not to go to city hall because the event is a "police set up." I was doubtful at first, but nevertheless I went to the official blacklivesmatter one, and having seen how the events panned out, I'm beginning to suspect these few anxious cries were right. There were two seperate protests, one at Philadelphia Museum of Art, and a smaller, disorganized one at City Hall. The one at Philadelphia Museum of Art was organized by #BlackLivesMatter, they obtained the permits to protest there, and the police were respectful and blocked off traffic so people could safely organize there. It was noisy, had a massive turnout (hundreds, possibly thousands of people) and people were justifiably angry, given the subject matter of the protest. However, it was otherwise very loving, no one got hurt, and nothing was broken. I saw some protestors bringing cases of water and food to assist the protestors, and some of the protestors acted as field medics, carrying backpacks full of first aid. Very wholesome peaceful people, unlike what I hear on social media. I didn't see the second protest, but I was aware it was happening, and it did not obtain the permits to organize there. After an hour or two of protests at the Philadelphia Art Museum, people began marching in a circle around the courtyard, and eventually broke into a path down Benjamin Franklin Parkway, finally converging with the second protest at City Hall. I saw this happening, but I parked several miles in the opposite direction, so I thought if I started marching to city hall now, I might take me all day to get home, so that was when I felt it was time for me to leave. When I got home, I quickly started following all the #blacklivesmatter and #phillyprotest hashtags to see what I may have missed. Initially, I was seeing articles about the peaceful protest at the art museum, but within a few hours these articles were quickly swept aside by a flood of BREAKING: 13 Officers Injured - Police Cars Set Ablaze In Reckless Philly Outrage - Looting And Rioting In The Streets. What the hell? This isn't what I saw. As the BLM protestors moved from their established safe organizing space at the museum down towards city hall, the police presence at city hall somehow anticipated this, and began to form a circle around them to contain them. The protestors then had nowhere to go weren't able to leave, and thats when it started to get violent. Police swat vans and riot squads were armed and ready to contain the protestors, and thats when people freaked out and all hell broke loose. This was not the planning of the #BlackLivesMatter movement. When you have crowds this big, no one really knows who the real "leader" is. When you don't know who to follow, you just see other people doing things and think "ok this is what we're doing now," and thats where all the reckless vandalism is coming from. People are pissed, the police are in the way, they don't know what to do, so they just do whatever they can. I suspect this is the true reason why racial justice icons like Malcolm X and Martin Luther King were assassinated in the past. I made this map demonstrating what I think is going on. I also found this twitter thread mostly confirming what I'm talking about. Now this is where things start to get especially shifty. Recall the post Doomkid shared above of the disguised St. Louis cop Pederson breaking windows at Autozone. There are more and more instances of similar freak happenings like that in all the riots across the country. There's not enough evidence yet to prove there is anonymous collusion here, but there are some really strange instances here and there of potential white supremacists with hidden identities, planting seeds of opportunist destruction to create this narrative. By breaking windows to businesses, it looks like the place has already been looted, and the rioters just try to get in there because things are so crazy right now this might be their only chance to get away with free stuff. It's not good, obviously, but they're being stung -- their not doing it themselves. But by the time people start recording it happening, and taking pictures of the aftermath, the set-up looks like it was the idea of savage young thugs, and in turn, discrediting the entire movement. I'm hearing few eyewitness accounts over social media that the burning of police cars and the destruction of the racist Mayor Rizzo statue was started by masked white dudes. By the time shit has already hit the fan, and the police start to react, everyone gets roped in to contributing to the damage. And I'm reading in the news that the two seperate protests are being reported as a single frenzy, which is false. Having been there myself, I can confirm there was definitely one peaceful large protest, and one farce that somehow blended together. Nobody really told anyone to march to city hall, it just randomly started happening. At least thats the case in Philadelphia. I'm beginning to suspect that every city's riot has its own individual story that's not being reported, and there is a covert group pulling the strings in these riots which are guiding them into meaningless destruction instead of standing up for the actual cause. Here's a couple other examples I found in my research: "Die Yuppies" in Phillyanother one of these masked strangers
Some masked and mindless window smasherRandom pallete of bricks in dallas
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2020 11:33:42 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on May 31, 2020 11:50:10 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on May 31, 2020 20:03:13 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on May 31, 2020 21:57:32 GMT -5
not gonna lie, this is an album cover if I've ever seen one though
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Post by GRUG on Jun 1, 2020 1:11:25 GMT -5
dont play dumb. even bob page saw it. overwhelming majority of shutdown protestors were white americans, had weapons, happened in the same general location, during the same timeline, and the police let them have their day. I'm not playing dumb. Some had weapons yet no violence erupted. No gunshots, no arson, no mob beatings. Thus, no rioting or push back from cops. Nothing they did was within illegal measures. Zero carnage. Surprised? This is not difficult to comprehend. White Americans want to return back to work (oh gosh the horror) so they don't lose their homes, and continue support their families. I'm saying it's independent of skin color. Nonwhite people are not immune to these things. The majority of police killings are not against whites. There were over 40 unarmed black people killed this year. Sometimes it's not by the police, but includes white americans murdering black people and getting a very light sentence. This happened to someone close to me. The majority of police killings are against whites. Link. I don't get why you keep denying that. I would like to see each and every individual case of these 40 unarmed blacks that died from police. Were they fighting cops (like punching or attempting to grab the cop's gun) or literally doing nothing (like cop being a power tripping scumbag such as what happened with George Floyd)? To my perspective, you're assuming that each of these 40 blacks were innocent when you don't know what situation it was. White Americans killing blacks is minuscule compared level of killings that blacks commit against whites. www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv18.pdf The FBI is aligned with the police. FBI statistics are not reliable. See James Comey. It's bipartisanly known that the FBI lies about everything. You can't trust the government to accurately report it's own failings. This is your opinion which in my opinion doesn't convince me at all. Show me proof against FBI crime stats. Don't say "I believe they are in cahoots because they're cops." You seriously think the FBI, which has throughout the years infiltrated/arrested various KKK, neo-nazi, and other far-right groups on RICO charges, all of a sudden are lying about crime stats among race/ethnicity? Business owner's properties are insured. They will be fine. The friends and families of those killed are not. I value life over property. I'm uncompromising on that issue. You're assuming that every insurance claim is going to be approved. Issuance company's are relentless and only support their clients within the scope of their written contacts. Insurance company's will buttfuck people dry and not give a shit if it doesn't specifically say "we will cover in the event of xyz." A poor bastard loses business for months due to COVID-19 shutdown, and then have an angry mob burn his business down, and then gets a tiny faction of the damages covered (worst case scenario NONE). Oh by the way, it's not just commercial businesses that are being torched, these rioters are burning down RESIDENCIES too ... especially this one with a child trapped inside. You disavow yet? Or nahhh insurance will cover everything...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 1:46:16 GMT -5
Propery damage is not the worst crime in the world BUT WHEN A BIG CHUNK OF THE PERPETRATORS ARE BLACK IT MAKES THEIR COMMUNITY LOOK AWFUL! Did you see the tweet I posted? They were all black! This doesn't make me happy or gleeful. I like black people and I want to see them succeed. They don't have to be the Roma of USA.
This was a chance for their community to make their voices heard but instead they chose to waste it robbing a few stores not only damaging the memory of Floyd but destroying the reputation of their community to the whole world for years to come as well as the reputation of their country! When they do stuff like this, they are justifying the actions of the police officer and the attitude of people who dislike their race! But idiot leftards will never call them out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 2:02:47 GMT -5
No. Nothing justifies murder. The past or the future actions of cop/community do not matter, the murder matters.
Fuck businesses and fuck property. The cop shall be locked in prison cell for life, and its better for it to be solitary confinement.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 6:48:26 GMT -5
Yeah, shit like this is totally necessary. Where the fuck are the police? This is why guns are good, can't trust the state to defend you! If I were American I'd start buying guns and ammo. What if they start burning and pillaging homes next?
I don't fucking get it. Why are they doing this? They are only proving the violent cops and the racists their point. What did that poor woman ever do to them? What are they hoping to accomplish?!
If the Demoncrats had any dignity they would rebuke the rioters! But they won't since they and their rag media presstitute lackeys have been fanning the flames in the first place!
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Post by dn on Jun 1, 2020 10:43:35 GMT -5
so is America burnt to the fucking ground yet? Asking for a friend.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 13:32:12 GMT -5
so is America burnt to the fucking ground yet? Asking for a friend. Is that friend Chinese by any chance?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2020 13:59:45 GMT -5
No. Nothing justifies murder. The past or the future actions of cop/community do not matter, the murder matters. Fuck businesses and fuck property. The cop shall be locked in prison cell for life, and its better for it to be solitary confinement. Haha, settle down Beavis.
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Post by 40oz on Jun 2, 2020 10:46:18 GMT -5
Speaking for my local area, Philadelphia is under some serious heat. I've seen some videos of more peaceful protestors in the city getting tear-gassed. I've heard mixed messages about the national guard moving in, and a video saying a fucking TANK was moving through Bensalem, but the video is fuzzy and unclear. I went to another protest last night. Every one I've been to thus far has been peaceful. People are angry, but they're not breaking anything or hurting anyone. This also complies the message shared across the black voices I've heard from. The vast majority of the destruction is coming from an outside party.
I've seen some photos of pallets of loose bricks being dumped on city corners to assist the outside party and bait the emotionally traumatized to destroy.
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Post by 40oz on Jun 2, 2020 10:51:06 GMT -5
Also if you haven't seen this viral video already, national guard in Minneapolis is forcing people into their homes. Trump is declaring war on "antifa" and will use this to exercise military power on anyone he wants
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2020 11:45:06 GMT -5
The National Guard should not have shot at people in their own homes but do you have better ideas on how to reinstate order? Should he just let people loot and burn?
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