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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 12:58:57 GMT -5
An absolutely brutal public execution. Very old-world and disturbing to watch. Not indicative of anything good.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 19:03:44 GMT -5
Of course the video conveniently doesn't show the part before where he's resisting arrest and swinging at officers. I'm sure that cop just wanted to put his knee on the dude's neck for no reason, especially in an age of ever-increasing scrutiny and mistrust of law enforcement. Gotta make it about race though, the media loves a good story about the oppression of dindus.
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Post by 40oz on May 27, 2020 19:55:42 GMT -5
There is footage of what happened prior to the arrest. In any case I don't see a realistic possibility of convincing you that it's race related. I've never seen a white guy pinned to the ground by his neck for a full 10 minutes by the police, and this is one of many instances of racially targeted police brutality in the US this year. news.yahoo.com/video-shows-minneapolis-police-arrest-230402854.html
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Post by DOEL on May 27, 2020 21:21:28 GMT -5
Resisting arrest doesn't mean the police have any moral justification for murder.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 22:01:55 GMT -5
Murder implies intent. I don't believe that cop intended to end that man's life. Law enforcement officers deal with scumbags every day who pretend to be in agony the minute handcuffs are on or they are being restrained; it's classic perp behavior. I'm not saying that the cop is blameless here, but calling this a murder and claiming it was racially motivated is a stretch that neither of you can back up at all. The cop happened to be white and this guy happened to be black. Now if we get a search warrant, raid the cop's house, and find six copies of Mein Kampf and a Klan robe, I'll entertain the idea that this officer was out to kill a black person specifically.
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Post by 40oz on May 27, 2020 22:38:09 GMT -5
Now if we get a search warrant, raid the cop's house, and find six copies of Mein Kampf and a Klan robe, I'll entertain the idea that this officer was out to kill a black person specifically. Oh is that all? Why not 7 copies? Are you sure you don't want to tack on David Alan Coe's entire discography in his CD collection, a bundle of pre tied nooses, confederate flag bed sheets, eBay receipts for the purchase of the auctioned gun that killed Trayvon Martin, and a giant mural in his living room that says "white people are the superior race" written in the blood of Malcolm X? He has to be completely impartial otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2020 22:46:52 GMT -5
Nah 7 copies are too many, indicative of a set-up. And David Allan Coe is a bit tame, try Johnny Rebel.
But yeah, you're kinda making my point. It's not possible to know what's in a man's heart when he takes someone else's life, which is why the whole "hate-crime" thing is usually a B.S. tactic to appease minorities. Besides, if you truly commit the act of murder, why does it even matter whether or not it was racially motivated? The end result is still the same; a human life was taken. Shouldn't all murders be considered equally heinous? What makes killing someone because they are black worse than killing someone because they got the job at Chicken Fiesta and you didn't?
This is typical media ginning up rage from the black community against cops and whites, nothing more.
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Post by 40oz on May 27, 2020 23:36:16 GMT -5
It's not possible to know what's in a man's heart when he takes someone else's life, [...] This is typical media ginning up rage from the black community against cops and whites, nothing more. In a single post you insist that its impossible to assess that the actions of a white cop who killed a black man make him any more or less racist than Martin Luther King Jr. but the agenda of the media is clear as day.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on May 28, 2020 7:40:11 GMT -5
Sucks to be American. RIP to the guy, this is absolutely horrible, they really shouldn't let people like that cop protect anyone
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 9:45:11 GMT -5
I don't understand why cops in America are so aggressive.
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Post by thundercunt on May 28, 2020 10:05:49 GMT -5
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Post by nxGangrel on May 28, 2020 15:27:40 GMT -5
I don't understand why cops in America are so aggressive. Believe me I have no idea either. Though people are have been becoming more and more distrustful of police (for obvious reasons) which I think might add to the aggressiveness.
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Post by GRUG on May 28, 2020 15:29:18 GMT -5
Disclaimer: I don't support BLM or Thin Blue Line (TBL). I'm throwing in my opinions on this sideshow matter. Of course the video conveniently doesn't show the part before where he's resisting arrest and swinging at officers. I'm sure that cop just wanted to put his knee on the dude's neck for no reason, especially in an age of ever-increasing scrutiny and mistrust of law enforcement. Gotta make it about race though, the media loves a good story about the oppression of dindus. Did he actually attack the officers? I didn't see that in the video (unless I didn't see the full video). Source please? But if may say, the cop's use of force was excessive. There are instances where cops are able to detain/arrest a person without having the suspects neck/windpipe crushed resulting in a fatality. This cop is probably going to get a manslaughter charge at the very least. And I do agree that the media is definitely making this a race issue (for obvious reasons... *cough cough* it sells *cough cough*) as they did with Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. I've never seen a white guy pinned to the ground by his neck for a full 10 minutes by the police, and this is one of many instances of racially targeted police brutality in the US this year. You've never seen a cop use excessive force on white folk? Cops beat white homeless guy to death: LinkCops storm a 21 year old white guy house over dubious "red flag gun laws" and wind up killing the guy in his bed: LinkCops choke to death a white guy (who has down syndrome) at movie theater: LinkWant moar? <-- I can't believe I'm actually using an unbiased Time Magazine article. Murder implies intent. I don't believe that cop intended to end that man's life. He had his knee pinned on the guy's neck for several minutes. Is this even standard police measures when conducting an arrest? To me, that's an eyebrow raiser for deliberately inflicting harm onto an individual. I don't understand why cops in America are so aggressive. Low trust society we live in, mixed with unqualified people to be in positions of authority.
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Post by Justince on May 28, 2020 18:44:44 GMT -5
Murder implies intent. I don't believe that cop intended to end that man's life. Law enforcement officers deal with scumbags every day who pretend to be in agony the minute handcuffs are on or they are being restrained; it's classic perp behavior. I'm not saying that the cop is blameless here, but calling this a murder and claiming it was racially motivated is a stretch that neither of you can back up at all. Here's some stuff I can back up: Chauvin, who joined the force in 2001, has also been involved in several other police-involved shootings throughout his career. According to Communities United Against Police Brutality, 10 complaints have been filed against the now-former police officer—but Chauvin only ever received two verbal reprimands.Chauvin also has been the subject of multiple internal complaints, according to a database compiled by Communities United Against Police Brutality.In 2006, Chauvin was involved in the fatal shooting of 42-year-old Wayne Reyes (black), who allegedly stabbed two people before reportedly turning a gun on police. Chauvin was among six officers to respond to the stabbing.In 2011, the officer was also one of five officers placed on a standard three-day leave after the non-fatal shooting of a Native American man.Sure sounds like a stand-up cop, not the kind that gets his jollies blowing away minorities or anything. What a pack of heroes man, 4 able-bodied cops taking down a 50 year old man. I saw the fucking footage before the arrest, he's belligerent but then complies, and stumbles as they near the car. He's already in CUFFS, for fuck's sake. How much of a threat is a 50 year old man who is already detained to 4 fucking cops? Yes, that juiced up pig killed him while he pleads for his life, and is already subdued. Eight minutes. Leaning on his neck; no attempt to do anything with him. How exactly is this hard to understand? The rioting though is fucking retarded and all those rioters are accomplishing is playing right into the hands of those who already expected the behavior. Nice going retards, we were already agreeing with you, now you've blown it by acting like a pack of wild animals. The cops were fired, will most likely be charged with murder and even the mayor said it was a capital crime. What else do they want? Oh.. to smash property and destroy their own neighborhoods..right. Very intelligent. Enjoy the blight for the next decade or two. Pardon while I put my fingers in my ears to the coming bitching about unemployment, housing crisis, and total loss of business. I see the riot wasn't very socially distanced. Maybe we can sit back and mother nature will take over.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 20:23:50 GMT -5
Here's some stuff I can back up: Chauvin, who joined the force in 2001, has also been involved in several other police-involved shootings throughout his career. According to Communities United Against Police Brutality, 10 complaints have been filed against the now-former police officer—but Chauvin only ever received two verbal reprimands.Chauvin also has been the subject of multiple internal complaints, according to a database compiled by Communities United Against Police Brutality.In 2006, Chauvin was involved in the fatal shooting of 42-year-old Wayne Reyes (black), who allegedly stabbed two people before reportedly turning a gun on police. Chauvin was among six officers to respond to the stabbing.In 2011, the officer was also one of five officers placed on a standard three-day leave after the non-fatal shooting of a Native American man.Sure sounds like a stand-up cop, not the kind that gets his jollies blowing away minorities or anything. What a pack of heroes man, 4 able-bodied cops taking down a 50 year old man. I saw the fucking footage before the arrest, he's belligerent but then complies, and stumbles as they near the car. He's already in CUFFS, for fuck's sake. How much of a threat is a 50 year old man who is already detained to 4 fucking cops? Yes, that juiced up pig killed him while he pleads for his life, and is already subdued. Eight minutes. Leaning on his neck; no attempt to do anything with him. How exactly is this hard to understand? The rioting though is fucking retarded and all those rioters are accomplishing is playing right into the hands of those who already expected the behavior. Nice going retards, we were already agreeing with you, now you've blown it by acting like a pack of wild animals. The cops were fired, will most likely be charged with murder and even the mayor said it was a capital crime. What else do they want? Oh.. to smash property and destroy their own neighborhoods..right. Very intelligent. Enjoy the blight for the next decade or two. Pardon while I put my fingers in my ears to the coming bitching about unemployment, housing crisis, and total loss of business. I see the riot wasn't very socially distanced. Maybe we can sit back and mother nature will take over. I will concede that this cop likely acted way too aggressively and perhaps even wanted to hurt this guy. I think based on the circumstantial evidence that you've presented, that's fair to say. Maybe he did want the guy to die. I'd kinda doubt it based on the blowback that he'd surely have known was coming, but it's possible. Either way I think that saying his tactics were intended to cause harm is a fair statement. Which is why he's being prosecuted. With that said, I still think that the media goes out of its way to present us with the juiciest stories of white on black violence that it can because it suits the narrative. Grug's point is well taken, plenty of other races including tons of white people are subject to police brutality that is never deemed suitable for prime time TV. And look at the response. Destroying businesses that had nothing to do with this man's death. Brilliant.
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Post by GRUG on May 28, 2020 20:54:55 GMT -5
Just found an article about the cop and the victim. Apparently these guys knew each other.... this is weird. Very weird.
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Post by dn on May 28, 2020 21:24:11 GMT -5
yeah the lack of social distancing between two people who knew each other. Tut tut.
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Post by 40oz on May 28, 2020 21:26:26 GMT -5
The media isn't blowing anything up. There have been at least 40 unarmed black people killed in the US in the last 5 months, often by police. The murder is racial violence and it was initiated by the police and when confronted by protestors they immediately mobilized, firing many thousands of rubber bullets and hundreds of tear gas canisters. Compare this to the hundreds of white people entering a capital building while heavily armed because they decided coronavirus was over only a few months ago. For reference, there were shutdown protests in the state of Minnesota where Floyd was murdered less than a month ago, but police didnt do anything here. There's no accountability for racial violence here.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2020 21:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by GRUG on May 28, 2020 22:03:22 GMT -5
The media isn't blowing anything up. There have been at least 40 unarmed black people killed in the US in the last 5 months, often by police. The murder is racial violence and it was initiated by the police and when confronted by protestors they immediately mobilized, firing many thousands of rubber bullets and hundreds of tear gas canisters. Compare this to the hundreds of white people entering a capital building while heavily armed because they decided coronavirus was over only a few months ago.
Remind me how much destruction covid-19 protestors are causing. Have they burned down buildings, and looted every store in sight, or shot up people? No they haven't. The Floyd rioters are behaving violently which is why they are being hit with rubber bullets and tear gas. This is a moot point and a ridiculousness analogy.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 3:19:44 GMT -5
Of course the video conveniently doesn't show the part before where he's resisting arrest and swinging at officers. I'm sure that cop just wanted to put his knee on the dude's neck for no reason, especially in an age of ever-increasing scrutiny and mistrust of law enforcement. Gotta make it about race though, the media loves a good story about the oppression of dindus. The right to a fair trial, even for criminals - as laid out in our constitution - is just a joke to you, then?
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Post by 40oz on May 29, 2020 10:01:17 GMT -5
When white people riot, it is 100% recreational. Theyre protesting against stay at home orders that are temporary and only started a few months ago for everyones safety. The worst case scenario for the covid19 shutdown protestors is that they have to go home, unsuccessful, stay in their houses and continue collecting free unemployment checks. Theres no violence in that, and its incomparable. White people have never had to face injustice alone. The problems white people face are problems everyone has to face, except maybe the advent of cancel culture or eating tide pods, which isnt even injustice. Its just having to accept consequences for your actions that people before you got away with. The justice for george floyd protests are resisting a recurring pattern of state-sponsored violence and murder thats been going on for centuries post civil rights movement; post separate but equal; post abolition. Often from the very people who are supposed to serve and protect. Ive seen it myself, it happens in ways other than 1950s-style lynchings. A 2018 Harvard study concluded that a black man age 15-34 is 9 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than anyone else. (I'd argue that they are more likely to be killed by other factors like poverty and lack of health insurance but this isnt really scientifically measurable) You cant resist it with nonviolence. Nonviolence doesnt work when your oppressors willingly choose to kill. Also heres white people fucking shit up.
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Post by GRUG on May 29, 2020 11:19:00 GMT -5
When white people riot, it is 100% recreational. Theyre protesting against stay at home orders that are temporary and only started a few months ago for everyones safety. The worst case scenario for the covid19 shutdown protestors is that they have to go home, unsuccessful, stay in their houses and continue collecting free unemployment checks. Theres no violence in that, and its incomparable. You keep throwing in COVID-19 protestors in this thread. Why do you keep arguing this? What is your point here? White people have never had to face injustice alone So white people never have to worry about losing their jobs or being doxxed over expressing freedom of speech due to political correctness culture in the media? Although that isn't injustice in a court of law or via police, it's a social injustice. Also, interesting how you never addressed my comment regarding how the majority of police killings are against whites. A 2018 Harvard study concluded that a black man age 15-34 is 9 times more likely to be killed by a police officer than anyone else. Hmmm did that Harvard study factor in FBI crimes statistics how 13% of the US population attributes to over half the violent crimes in the US? Hmm perhaps that has something to do with how black men between the age of 15-34 are killed by police? You cant resist it with nonviolence. Nonviolence doesnt work when your oppressors willingly choose to kill. BURNING DOWN ENTIRE CITIES AND PEOPLE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF POLICE BRUTALITY IS UNACCEPTABLE. You got a beef, you take it up with the people directly responsible. Leave private property and business owners ALONE. Also heres white people fucking shit up. Lol I knew this post was coming. Regardless, it's unlawful and stupid. But these white dumbasses are not protesting over political shit. What we are seeing now is political violence which is a concerning matter. Not some sports related bullshit. Context matters. And before I get hit with a strawman by anyone, no I do not condone or excuse the actions of either of these rioters.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 14:19:27 GMT -5
I love how Americans ignorantly use the term "white people", as if white people from all around the world are all identical and are also guilty of what white americans did in the past and are ignorant of the fact that white people have extremely diverse opinions and reactions to other cultures, especially in Europe. Poland and Germany have very different values for example. White people in Romania have very different problems to white people in USA. Countries in Europe are not like American States. You should stop using "white people", use "white americans" instead. We have our own baggage around here and we don't want yours, especially not your white guilt.
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Post by GRUG on May 29, 2020 14:43:24 GMT -5
I love how Americans ignorantly use the term "white people", as if white people from all around the world are all identical and are also guilty of what white americans did in the past and are ignorant of the fact that white people have extremely diverse opinions and reactions to other cultures, especially in Europe. Poland and Germany have very different values for example. White people in Romania have very different problems to white people in USA. Countries in Europe are not like American States. You should stop using "white people", use "white americans" instead. We have our own baggage around here and we don't want yours, especially not your white guilt. Yes I agree. We’re talking about white Americans (people of various European backgrounds).
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