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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 1:04:21 GMT -5
Originally, this image was attached to the bottom of Endless' post. Clearly DW mods demanded he remove the image. They do all of their banning and deleting without any transparency. Showing receipts of PMs with mods angers them, because they've been revealed. This happened to a /vr/ member that posted HFFM to Doomworld. He got temporarily banned for it, screencapped the ban message, posted it to /vr/, then was perma-banned from DW for posting the screenshot on 4chan even though it's a diffrent forum Attachment Deleted
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Post by ProfessorBigDick on Aug 19, 2021 1:16:46 GMT -5
For posterity's sake, this was the entire post. Nothing goes unnoticed by me. By the way, look at all those registrations and lurkers. It's almost like they're trying to help this site.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 1:28:45 GMT -5
Originally, this image was attached to the bottom of Endless' post. Clearly DW mods demanded he remove the image. They do all of their banning and deleting without any transparency. Showing receipts of PMs with mods angers them, because they've been revealed. This happened to a /vr/ member that posted HFFM to Doomworld. He got temporarily banned for it, screencapped the ban message, posted it to /vr/, then was perma-banned from DW for posting the screenshot on 4chan even though it's a diffrent forum View Attachment"Just PM me" become their new tool. Whenever they do something shady and people are not ok with this, they're like "Instead of making a thread, just PM mods". So, you can publicly execute threads, users and generally abuse your status, but don't want your reasoning to be challenged, also publicly? Just check out this thread and the thread linked in the post: www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/121270-what-threads-do-mods-consider-as-crapthreads/
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Post by dmdr on Aug 19, 2021 2:40:59 GMT -5
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Post by walterc on Aug 19, 2021 4:14:49 GMT -5
Yeah, this is really drastic choice that i absolutely didn't get at all... Why ban all the projects just because the people who made it are almost all banned from DW? Wtf? I think is a really stupid choice... I'm all with Endless post on DW, i don't know if it still on the forums
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 4:45:45 GMT -5
YES!!! I will grill some shrimps for this occassion! Endless got a few things wrong, though. Doomworld has actually got more toxic - instead of less - in recent years. With the recent changes in moderation team, the toxicity went up to eleven. I also never seen anything that suggests DW is inclusive. The truth is that Doomworld has been an outlet for powerfreaks (DW staff members) for years, who cultivated in regular members the tendency to sycophancy and passing - without any careful thought - judgement on other people, and has a long track of non-transparency, shadowbanning, random policing etc. Also the Obsidian must have been on crack writing that post. I will quote it in its entirety and highlight stuff for the lulz, because THE ACTUAL FUCK: - who cares if contributors are banned somewhere or not? People's opinions are irrelevant when considering their artistic contributions. - per Obsidian's (or actually staff opinion), DBPs needed permission and compromises to stay posted on DW. Doesn't even bother to hide it. - who demands people sign up to DBP? Maybe I put a gun to their head around some dark corner at night and demand them to register?[/p] - another vanity outburst: releases grab people's attention. Goddamnit, that's fiendish!
- Oh yeah, there are must be some kind of DLC releases of DBP in "Doomer Boards Project" subforum. It is a development subforum, does what it says on tin and nothing more. Nevermind that the reasons behind DW bans are highly debatable, the moderator in question tries to hide that doomer boards actually started as a forum to continue discussions that were banned on DW when Trump got elected, and (what is not even hidden) the glaringly obvious fact that DW staff wants to police the whole world - or at least the people who play Doom and consider to communicate with each other or contribute back to the community - by policing DW. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not gonna happen. Were you actually up to snuff, you would become politicians/legislators/whatever the fuck in real world, but alas you are just a bunch of Walter Mitties who would like to police by firepower, but lack the physical training to join the most unfit police unit.
Yes, that's exactly why this thread exists, because the DW admins are a bunch of people who lucked out by investing into Doom back in 90's, now they ran the biggest doom gig and try to gate who, of doom players, can communicate their passion with the rest of dooming community or contribute back for fuck's sake.
And the truth is that everyone who is into Doom should be allowed to communicate and contribute, no matter what's their opinion outside of doom is.
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Post by joe-ilya on Aug 19, 2021 4:50:15 GMT -5
The "For a good time, visit DB" ad that Obsidian cited in that stickied thread, is made by Matador, who isn't banned from DW. (At the time of writing at least) So the argument that banned DW members are trying to convert others to join the boards is moot.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 19, 2021 4:56:02 GMT -5
Who would've thought that Major Arlene becoming a mod would be the start of doomworld's downfall Also revae and @btsxsuckass nice to see you guys here.
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Post by joe-ilya on Aug 19, 2021 5:07:31 GMT -5
You aren't required to have a DB account to map for the DBPs, you can send your DBP maps through my DBP Discord server. discord.gg/YSsaEGc
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 5:23:54 GMT -5
Also revae and @btsxsuckass nice to see you guys here. You're glad to see a troll? But I'm not sure about revae; it would be cool if it's really him.
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Post by xeepeep on Aug 19, 2021 5:45:30 GMT -5
I can confirm that it is revae. joe-ilya read the OP of every dbp thread ever, it explicitly says not to post maps in the discord but in the thread 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 5:46:44 GMT -5
Also the irony of DW staff making a regulation and a sticky thread against DB while complaining that a dedicated topic for lambasting DW staff fuckery exists on DB. Like if a regulation you can't object in public (thread by Endless was deleted, and Obsidian mentioned he only will discuss it in PMs) was better than a public discussion started by people who used to enjoy the old DW and were welcome on it. Anarchy is better than an oppressive rule, even if anarchy is not ideal. If you are offended on doomer boards, you can retaliate or you can even be above it and keep calm; if you are offended on doomworld, you are told to suck up and obey, like if you were a human rights activist imprisoned in China. And they claim doomer boards is a worse place - how? I fail to observe logic behind that claim. It's also appaling people would perceive a place ruled by fear such as DW as being hospitable or an improvement over the old days, or such measures justified in preventing the brand of toxicity the old DW had. For fuck's sake! If could roll back the time, I would, because the injustice hurts more than a rude or a controversial opinion. But I guess, some people are made of different materia, so they disagree. Their value system is inherently incompatible, is backwards. Strictly speaking, doomer boards isn't anarchy. However, the rulers rarely interfere, because the position of dn is that admin or moderator should think hard before taking authoritive action, or else he shouldn't be in that position in first place. Unless interference is required, it shouldn't happen. This is considered to be an upside of doomer boards rather than its downside, but once again, see above on people and value systems. P.S. I also wouldn't trust word of Obsidian he accepts PM discussion of the regulation. Such a PM discussion will probably have repercussions later (veiled behind some warning point and/or obscured by an invisible ban), and then we'll laugh at people who say "Doomworld isn't toxic cesspool, Doomerboards is".
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 5:52:09 GMT -5
I can confirm that it is revae. Well if that's really him, I hope he doesn't take my negative experience with his magnum opus personally. I know there was huge effort spent on it and it is gratis, but ain't no shoe size that fits all, even were it made of gold and decorated with diamonds.
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Post by gennie on Aug 19, 2021 6:03:34 GMT -5
Who would've thought that Major Arlene becoming a mod would be the start of doomworld's downfall How on earth does someone like that become a mod in the first place?
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Post by good-old on Aug 19, 2021 6:13:55 GMT -5
Who would've thought that Major Arlene becoming a mod would be the start of doomworld's downfall How on earth does someone like that become a mod in the first place? Well, coolclub members are gonna want other coolclub members to become mods, nothing surprising. She's so coolclub the people finally woke up
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Post by 40oz on Aug 19, 2021 6:20:45 GMT -5
did anyone catch how many views that topic had before it was deleted? Last i saw, it had 14,000 views 6 hours in.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 6:56:02 GMT -5
Banned in D W
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Post by joe-ilya on Aug 19, 2021 6:56:22 GMT -5
I can confirm that it is revae. joe-ilya read the OP of every dbp thread ever, it explicitly says not to post maps in the discord but in the thread 🤣 I can post the maps from the Discord to the thread
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 7:08:16 GMT -5
did anyone catch how many views that topic had before it was deleted? Last i saw, it had 14,000 views 6 hours in. it wasn't deleted, it was unpinned. You can still find it somewhere below in wads & mods. They chickened out with DB promotion.
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Post by noisomedead on Aug 19, 2021 7:17:43 GMT -5
Also the Obsidian must have been on crack writing that post.
I wouldn't be that kind to him. His behaviour is not comparable to intoxicated or impaired person. He is simply self-important liar who mistook DW's fear of opposition for actual mental subjugation, and thought they would treat anything to come from "their better's" mouth as divine word. Sadly he, like so many of the sites "upper crust", have let the power go to their heads, and now (subconsciously perhaps) think of themselves as some genius puppet-master, when actually they're just some common members who got where they are by circumstance and went on a power trip.
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Post by joe-ilya on Aug 19, 2021 7:20:27 GMT -5
I guess if it was unstickied, then DBPs are allowed to have threads on DW again. I hope this was just a stupid stunt by Obsidian and some other new mod trying to pull a power move and failing miserably.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 7:30:29 GMT -5
joe-ilya we could assume DBPs are allowed now if the thread was deleted. But it's still there. They just don't want any attention after the complaints in Endless' profile thread.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 7:45:31 GMT -5
All I see is doom babies everywhere.... *Knock knock knock* it's the doom policia no fun allowed anywhere anymore ! Or insta ban
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 7:46:21 GMT -5
joe-ilya we could assume DBPs are allowed now if the thread was deleted. But it's still there. They just don't want any attention after the complaints in Endless' profile thread. Lmao even better so when someone who doesn't know better posts about DBP, they're going to have to explain it all over again. It will be a reoccurring issue for them in the future. Do these people think things through before doing it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2021 8:06:45 GMT -5
I guess your vile attempts at recruiting the innocent to your unholy cause has... succeeded.
To be honest, the pettiness of that forum post made me curious, but I'm also kind of tired of the self-indulgence and drabble on the Doomworld forums. The complete lack of quality control in some of the community projects is laughable. And I'm not just talking about newish mappers joining projects. I particularly mean this:
...And this map was made by the project lead! Before I watched this video I joined his next project, and people are just spewing out maps without proper playtesting. The project lead even joined another CP and said 'it's okay, we have playtesters now' because I playtested like 8 maps in a single day... he playtested none. My own map is still untested by anyone.
In a different CP half the people made neigh-impossible slaughter maps, while the other half made crappy dark boxes cluttered with a handful of SSers.
But I didn't just come here to complain. I came here because I'm looking for better organized, more cohesive projects to join, and this community seems smaller and more devoted at first glance. Prove me right!
Also I really enjoyed Auger Zenith. Here's my blind playthrough (with live commentary):
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