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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on May 22, 2022 21:04:33 GMT -5
i also dfont understand why joe ilya is doing this all the time i mean he is trying to be cruel toi everyone all the time and its just stupid and even my other friends dont lilke joe ilya.
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Post by xeepeep on May 22, 2022 23:17:08 GMT -5
JUST IGNORE HIM AND STOP SHITTING UP THE FORUM WITH YOU TWO'S RETARDED LOVE TRIANGLE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS SACRED JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WE DON'T CARE
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Post by joe-ilya on May 22, 2022 23:26:25 GMT -5
I'm sorry too, Kontra, for making fun of you. Your DBP48 started as a joke name, but 40oz took your name seriously and now it's an official DBP despite having nothing to do with DBPs; there's no unifying theme to all the maps, in the resource pack none of the textures are blacked out for thematic consistency, the wad is incompatible with external gameplay mods because it in itself is a mod (something 40oz is an advocate for).
It's sad, I've become attached to the series over the 47 DBPs that I've participated at, and it's gone completely off the rails because 40oz doesn't care anymore.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on May 22, 2022 23:47:30 GMT -5
i think the theme is a military soldier person who goes through hell and he makes a warfare against all the demons and its really awesome
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 16:30:28 GMT -5
joe-ilya You're not going to be a DBP leader again no matter how badly you think DBP belongs to you.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 16:48:52 GMT -5
joe-ilya You're not going to be a DBP leader again no matter how badly you think DBP belongs to you. I think that's a rather harsh punishment for his act of, and not to put too fine a point on it, trying to establish order and clear direction in the chaos and lack of communication in the beginning of May.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 17:11:00 GMT -5
I think that's a rather harsh punishment for his act of, and not to put too fine a point on it, trying to establish order and clear direction in the chaos and lack of communication in the beginning of May. You're not entitled to be a DBP leader either. Neither is anyone else on this forum. It's not a punishment. It's a reality check.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 17:19:46 GMT -5
I think that's a rather harsh punishment for his act of, and not to put too fine a point on it, trying to establish order and clear direction in the chaos and lack of communication in the beginning of May. You're not entitled to be a DBP leader either. Neither is anyone else on this forum. It's not a punishment. It's a reality check. Haven't other people managed DBPs before? Cupcake was in charge of Auger;Zenith and Kontra's in charge of this month. I'm confused on what "DBP leader" even means here.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 17:31:13 GMT -5
What is there to explain?
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2022 17:46:32 GMT -5
What is there to explain? If nobody else is allowed to be a DBP leader then what's DBP48, a project led by Kontra?
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Post by sirmolina on May 23, 2022 18:12:27 GMT -5
So... Many of the DBP's were lead by other people when 40oz disconected for a while, was a rule (whoever wanted to lead a DBP, could lead it if that someone had a good theme or resources to make it) and now he take the silly decision to change that rule that make this series so special because of the lack of communication and tolerance between all the members of this forum (? It's a shame been a dick with everybody quiting the freedom to lead a DBP it's a shame... P.S.: IMO this DBP 48 it's not that bad, just silly, but c'mon we will have a DBP 49 or even a 50th one.
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Post by JadingTsunami on May 23, 2022 18:24:35 GMT -5
I will summarize what I understand.
40oz is saying that he alone is the only authority as to who leads a DBP and when. That's it; there is no democracy and there is no public selection "process" to spectate. He chooses you, and you're "it" for that month.
You may ask to be selected but that's it. You are owed nothing.
He chose Kontra this month. End.
What you think of this is up to you; this is merely my attempt at a summary. I am not trying to provide new information here, so if I have summarized incorrectly then that is my error.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 18:55:15 GMT -5
I said nobody is entitled to it. In the past, I've had to fight with people over the idea that the ownership of DBP is this slippery fish that can just be wrestled out of each other's hands. I designed the DBP so that the people on this forum could do something creative and fun together other than bicker about politics all the time. Since the beginning, my attitude is "heres some resources I made, here's a map I made with them, I'll probably make some more throughout the month and post it when I'm done, and if you wanna make some extra maps to include in it, you can if you want" Kontra Kommando created this forum in the first place, and I think he's imaginative, and a very capable artist. So I gave him a shot at leading the DBP this month. Frankly, I just wanted to make a mod and have fun with it. This is the kind of attitude I understood from him, and the attitude I think a leader should have. From what I've seen, Kontra Kommando has been very respectful to the people that have submitted maps and pitched ideas. He's created a ton of original art to support the project, and has been very flexible to people who had sensible suggestions. I really don't enjoy working with people who are incessantly rude, vocalizing their disinterest, and inviting other people and themselves to dogpile and overstep the leader. That shit sucks, man. It tells me a lot about who you are as a person. Where your loyalties really lie. You're not actually interested in making maps for the fun of it. You're undermining people to seek power. It's so fucking annoying to be the designated fight-breaker-upper, here. It's an enormous amount of work in order to keep this project fun for everyone. I'm not entrusting people like joe-ilya who repeatedly make this position incredibly difficult for me to somehow make the mapping process not miserable for everyone but themselves. I don't care how things were done in the past. This is the way I'm doing it now. If you wanna do your own project where your model is better. Please please please PLEASE be my guest.
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2022 18:59:26 GMT -5
you think DBP belongs to you. I didn't say that or even implied it, I just want the DBPs to be done how they were always done; with thematic consistency, which this project has none, it's going to be the first black sheep of the series, after 47 installments where countless people worked hard to maintain it in top shape, from project leaders, to mappers, to playtesters, and now you're going throw it all under because you were out of themes? Swallow your pride and ask people for help, don't just give the crown to a project that has used the DBP title as a joke, without checking if it uses the DBP formula, and pretending like you know what you're doing.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 19:11:00 GMT -5
It doesn't matter, you're a miserable tool that's constantly putting people down and I don't like working with people like you.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 19:13:57 GMT -5
If no one made maps for DBP_01 it would have been three lonely maps by 40oz and nothing would have come of it. It's always been on the mappers to make the project good.
You've already been clear since the beginning that you'd be doing nothing of use to the project and since then you've been picking on Kontra kommando all month. So fuck off with the bullshit about wanting DBP to be good when you put forth none of the effort.
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2022 19:16:03 GMT -5
I'm not the only one who dislikes this DBP and criticizes it, can't people dislike things sometimes? Stop being so reactionary.
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2022 19:18:29 GMT -5
Dude, I wasn't even aware of Doomer Boards until DBP02 started, and started mapping as soon as I found out. Not to mention I was one of the first few leaders, at DBP10.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 19:24:38 GMT -5
make youre own project then. How many times do I have to keep telling you? You're a mapper, you have leadership experience, you can make your own content. Just do it.
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2022 19:26:58 GMT -5
I even apologized to Kontra and you still label me as a hater, there's no reasoning with you.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 19:29:40 GMT -5
What else do you have to say? Go ahead. I'm ready for it.
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2022 19:40:07 GMT -5
If someone makes a DBP49 thread right now, will it eventually become the DBP of next month? Is this how you choose who leads? How do you determine when someone leads?
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 19:43:35 GMT -5
What do I even write posts for if you don't read them?
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Post by joe-ilya on May 23, 2022 20:04:39 GMT -5
That's how you chose Kontra to lead this project, it was a joke title that you took seriously.
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Post by 40oz on May 23, 2022 20:11:36 GMT -5
What do I even write posts for if you don't read them?
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