DOOMER BOARDS PROJECT # 48 HYPE THREAD

Here's some feedback on map 1 (based on your gameplay footage):

• Red door is missing indicators
• Doors don't have lower side textures set as unpegged
• Too many vents is boring
• Not enough verticality in maps and monster placement, though that isn't a dealbreaker in map 1
• Everything is too square, especially the crate room and vents
• Hallways are boring, but look good. The slopes really bring the room together
• Radar bleeps are annoying
• Flashing lights are annoying
• UI is annoying
• Music is annoying
• Your attituding is annoying
• What's up with all the flares?
• Storywise, I have no idea what's going on. It's clear we're on an Aliens-inspired spaceship, but where do all these random factions come from? Why are they here? Why is Doomguy/(Seagal?)'s spaceship? Some environmental storytelling would be nice
• Punching seems fun

Stepbro, that was a speedmap I whipped in 30 minutes to showcase the theme and how to use the colored vanilla lighting. I had to make the entire resource pack in a couple days because it was looking like 40oz abandoned the forum again like he did before, and I didn't want to start the theme too late, so I did something quick to get the basics done so people can start, and I can keep working at the resources with updated version down the line.

You're comparing something I made in 2 days with something you've been making for years.

The beginning of the video where everything was red gave me a bit of a headache. Personally, I would have liked to have seen Joe's colored light project over this. I see the effort in this, don't get me wrong. But it just doesn't mesh with the rest of the DBP releases.

In the end, if this was the first DBP I played, I would have ignored DB maps altogether. Because it looks like a shitpost. And also because you're nuts.

Alright, I think everybody's flung enough shit at each other. The project releases on June 1st, I think there's still time to refine and polish the existing maps. If there's criticism of the mod/maps beyond insults, it should be posted in the dev thread. I've played through some of it and I noticed some bugs and things I think could be better and am planning to post more feedback once I get off work. There's already been a little bit posted and I think the project could use some more constructive criticism. In turn, I hope Kontra and the other mappers on this project will be receptive to the feedback. Just be aware some of that feedback can be pretty blunt, this forum and its inhabitants aren't exactly famous for being polite.

I'm not sure about the two new boss maps but the first map in the beta has slopes so I'm pretty sure that's UDMF and won't work in non-ZDoom ports. I think something kind of similar to the mod could be made using Dehacked but some weapons/monsters/features would have to be cut - I was thinking of removing the Doom II monsters and replacing them with some of the custom ones since this project started out for Doom 1. The only problem with that is the custom monsters wouldn't appear in the maps without Doom 2 monsters and it'd mess with the ammo/monster balance and I'm a little hesitant to go in and mess with other people's maps to add them in.

I think it's a good idea to try and make these work in other ports since most of the maps aren't UDMF but I'm not sure I'd be able to get the Dehacked stuff working by release, I've never worked in it before and it's all a bit new to me so I'd probably need some help from others to pull that off. I can try working on that but I think at this point the best thing to do would be to make sure the existing maps are polished & refined before release.

From what I saw, I don't think a lot of the maps had player 2-4 starts so that's something that would need to be added if you want multiplayer support but that should be an easy enough fix.

Oh, so youre willing to change literally every single criticism i pointed out as long as someone else says it? At least its getting addressed i guess

Who is this guy?

Also who cares, I have more people following my Aliens mod(s) on MODDB than there are members on DBs. I think I have more downloads on my moddb page than every single DBP combined. That is not an exaggeration, you can check.  If anything, I will lift this place up higher with my contribution.

Also,

Here are some screen caps

In the end, admitting this means you were never here for the community or maps, but waiting around like a vulture to pick at a fresh corpse, in this case Kontra's. Do us a real solid and delete your account again, once and for all. Asshole. 

having a more experimental and potentially controversial entry in the series is a good thing, imo.. can always go back to boom mapping next month.

Un vieil homme amer is very upset, and his only means of release is posting such déchets inutiles from time to time. Pay it very little mind, enfant champignon. Bitter old men, très contrarié que leurs idées stupides, anciennes et haineuses are on the path de l'extinction, have little other means of venting their frustrations. Appreciate it now, un vieux fossile si sale will surely not be around much longer, mon ami!

Kontra needs to go back to weed

You need an enema, because you really have something up your ass lately.

You like to stir the pot and watch it burn, and then act like a little bitch when people clap back at you.

Instead of offering any good advice on the project, you are just acting like a child.

I don't need to smoke weed, because it is my satisfaction to admonish haters.