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Post by TOS on Jan 28, 2018 11:48:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:11:33 GMT -5
Well, it's not a choice to be or not to be a pedophile. It's simply something that happens to your body. And AFAIK attraction to children can't really be "cured" so far, just like conversion therapy never worked. Should we say fuck these people because they were born unlucky?
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Post by TOS on Jan 28, 2018 12:19:43 GMT -5
At the very least we should keep them under constant surveillance. Whether it's their choice or not...they are sexually attracted to children. If these people feel safe enough to come out and admit this...yeah, they need to be hospitalized even if they haven't committed any actual crime because they are undeniably fucked in the head. These are the kind of genetic traits that humanity should be trying to prevent from being passed down to the next generation. Yes, I would be all for the sterilization of people who have an admitted sexual attraction to children.
It is sad that compassion is leading some to pity pedophiles because "they can't help it".
I've got no issue with you dude...but damn...I cannot comprehend how you can bring yourself to give anything but contempt to pedophiles.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 12:31:47 GMT -5
I think it's very easy to pity them. Just imagine yourself in their place. You probably wouldn't be too happy with being locked up forever just because of some genetic stuff or whatever else causes this condition. Again, from what I understand there is no real cure for pedophilia, so that "hospitalization" would basically mean life imprisonment I guess. That's life imprisonment for doing nothing.
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2018 13:21:52 GMT -5
These are the kind of genetic traits that humanity should be trying to prevent from being passed down to the next generation. Yes, I would be all for the sterilization of people who have an admitted sexual attraction to children. There is no such thing as a fucking pedo gene. edit: also you are fucking stupid.
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Post by GRUG on Jan 28, 2018 13:48:13 GMT -5
These are the kind of genetic traits that humanity should be trying to prevent from being passed down to the next generation. Yes, I would be all for the sterilization of people who have an admitted sexual attraction to children. There is no such thing as a fucking pedo gene. edit: also you are fucking stupid.It's being researched. Many psychological / behavioral traits are passed down genetically. The etiology of pedophilia remains largely unknown, but the disorder is thought to be caused by an undetermined distribution of psychological, sociological, and biological factors [24]. To fully understand and survey the origins of the disorder, researchers have cautioned that attention should be paid to all of these factors [25]. Even though the biological facets of the disorder are still not principally determined and very few researchers study the causes of pedophilia [26], most scientists now consider the disorder as a complex deeprooted predisposition and, over the last few decades, have correspondingly begun to study possible biological associations to the etiology and presence of the disorder, such as abnormal brain structure and function [26-31], irregular hormone levels [32-34], biological vulnerabilities to environmental factors [35, 36], and as I will discuss in this paper, genetic influences. Although there is overall very little genetic research in this area and literature is limited, several studies in the preceding decades have begun to preliminarily explore and implicate potential contributing genetic influences to the development of pedophilia, and research is ongoing. In addition to the following discussion, a summary of the six main studies explicitly suggesting genetic contributions to pedophilia and their findings can be found in Table 1. SAUCE: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4393782/
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Post by Olroda on Jan 28, 2018 14:03:07 GMT -5
There is always a choice involved. People must be held accountable for their actions. Hiding behind a diagnosis or "my genes made me do it" bullshit, which seems common these days, will not save them if what they do is despicable enough. One shouldn't pity such filth, for they have no pity for you.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 14:06:48 GMT -5
Being a pedophile is not an action. Being a child molester is a different story.
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Post by TOS on Jan 28, 2018 14:09:50 GMT -5
These are the kind of genetic traits that humanity should be trying to prevent from being passed down to the next generation. Yes, I would be all for the sterilization of people who have an admitted sexual attraction to children. There is no such thing as a fucking pedo gene. edit: also you are fucking stupid.Everything can be traced back to genes. It is what makes us who we are. Chemical imbalances in the brain can be passed down to offspring. Ever wonder why other chemical imbalances like depression can be passed down to children? What makes you think that other chemical imbalances can't be passed down? Please don't call me stupid because you disagree with me. That's not necessary.
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2018 14:41:02 GMT -5
I'm calling you stupid because you are advocating fucking eugenics to cure a fucking pathology.
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Post by TOS on Jan 28, 2018 14:56:46 GMT -5
I guess we can just use your alternative. Just nurture the undesirable traits that get passed down to the next generation so they can grow into a "community" of people demanding "fair representation".
It's not like I'm calling for mass executions or some shit. Just, "Oh, you can't help but get sexually excited by children? You probably shouldn't be having any then."
But no, your way is better. Keep up the good work.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 28, 2018 17:43:50 GMT -5
Being a pedophile is not an action. Being a child molester is a different story. This is the distinction. It's possible to be attracted to children without acting on it. I've heard that in most cases, child molesters were molested at some point themselves. Getting some sort of rehabilitation would be the correct course of action, but afaik this is very difficult to get in a world where telling someone about it is a pretty high probability of going to jail, turning friends and family into enemies, or getting clubbed to death. Even if you haven't touched anyone, having child porn to masturbate to is also super illegal. Its too complex. I can't condone the filming of child porn. That's so fucking outrageous I'm in disbelief that it actually exists. I have a niece that I love a lot. She's so innocent and naïve at her age, that the thought of a predator luring her into doing something that she doesn't have the capacity to understand is the most vile thing I could ever possibly imagine. I would certainly want that guy castrated and hung upside down from his balls while he gets beaten with a baseball bat like a fucking piñata. But at the same time, not being able to get a boner for adult men or women, and only being able to experience sexual pleasure from the thought of children is a curse, and the people who deal with that know it. I don't know how to deal with this, I don't really want to invest too much of my attention into it, but I do believe that pedophiles are humans with a mental ailment that no one fully understands yet, and to fear it and respond to it with excessive violence is more likely to create more demons than it is so stop it in its tracks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 18:29:02 GMT -5
There is always a choice involved. People must be held accountable for their actions. Hiding behind a diagnosis or "my genes made me do it" bullshit, which seems common these days, will not save them if what they do is despicable enough. One shouldn't pity such filth, for they have no pity for you. Quoted for truth.
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2018 19:52:16 GMT -5
I guess we can just use your alternative. Just nurture the undesirable traits that get passed down to the next generation so they can grow into a "community" of people demanding "fair representation". It's not like I'm calling for mass executions or some shit. Just, "Oh, you can't help but get sexually excited by children? You probably shouldn't be having any then." But no, your way is better. Keep up the good work. Being against forced sterilization camps as advocated by a sped does not equate to nurturing fucking child abusers. Surgery does not fix mental issues. Especially ones that involve abnormal sexual pathologies. If you think that a condition that is primarily a power-abuse analogue will be magically fixed by forcibly removing a person’s balls then you know fuck all about humanity.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2018 19:54:59 GMT -5
I can't condone the filming of child porn. I'm curious, what would you say about cartoons, comics, and stuff like that?
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Post by TOS on Jan 28, 2018 20:25:23 GMT -5
I guess we can just use your alternative. Just nurture the undesirable traits that get passed down to the next generation so they can grow into a "community" of people demanding "fair representation". It's not like I'm calling for mass executions or some shit. Just, "Oh, you can't help but get sexually excited by children? You probably shouldn't be having any then." But no, your way is better. Keep up the good work. Being against forced sterilization camps as advocated by a sped does not equate to nurturing fucking child abusers. Surgery does not fix mental issues. Especially ones that involve abnormal sexual pathologies. If you think that a condition that is primarily a power-abuse analogue will be magically fixed by forcibly removing a person’s balls then you know fuck all about humanity. Oh, please educate me then, wise one.
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Post by dn on Jan 28, 2018 21:44:45 GMT -5
1) Sexuality is not hard coded from birth. Know this and accept it. Sexuality is essentially aesthetics; what is pleasing to the senses and emotions, and aesthetics are both fluid and informed by life experiences.
2) Conflating instances of pedophilia in the same family with predisposition and genetic inheritance is a mistake. Behavioral fucking science: the abused becomes the abuser.
3) Morality is not hard coded from birth. Know this and accept it. Personal morality is essentially aesthetics; avoiding what is unpleasing to the senses and emotions, and morality is both fluid and informed by life experiences.
4) The framework for sexuality and morality are laid principally very early on in life. Abuse / stress during this period can lead to fucked up shit like pedophilia.
5) The framework for sexuality and morality can be changed later in life (e.g; Pavlov’s electro-shock therapy, or trolling someone so fucking hard that they psychologically dislocate from the trolled persona and go furry / troon the fuck out).
6) Pedophilia is born from a fucked sense of aesthetics, pleasure in exercising power over the helpless and psychological regression back to the original cause of the abuse (where applicable).
7) Impotent men who cannot achieve sexual release will often resort to violence. Often fucking catastrophic levels of violence (the link between serial killers / childhood abuse is profound). Deballing / chemically castrating pedophiles is therefore likely to make the fucking problem WORSE because they will literally FUCK YOUR CHILDREN TO DEATH WITH RAKES.
8) Your justice system is fucking broken, conflating justice with revenge and being corrupt as fuck.
9) Even if your justice system wasn’t fucked and could be trusted with that sort of power, you are only ever four years away from a different set of motherfuckers who might NOT be able to be trusted with that sort of power.
10) Power-creep: what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Today you are castrating pedophiles, tomorrow it will be rapists, ten years time it will be speds like your good self.
11) Power once seceded CANNOT be reclaimed.
12) Surgery does not and never will repair pathology.
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Post by TOS on Jan 28, 2018 22:25:48 GMT -5
1) Sexuality is not hard coded from birth. Know this and accept it. Sexuality is essentially aesthetics; what is pleasing to the senses and emotions, and aesthetics are both fluid and informed by life experiences. Retort: I disagree. I believe people are born wired to react a certain way to pheromones given off by other people. They can be influenced by experience, of course. But I believe everyone is born a predisposition in regards to sexuality. 2) Conflating instances of pedophilia in the same family with predisposition and genetic inheritance is a mistake. Behavioral fucking science: the abused becomes the abuser. Inquiry: Do you mean to say that every single pedophile who ever was and ever will be has been subjected to the same or similar abuse that they have, do, or will dish out? I find that hard to believe. 3) Morality is not hard coded from birth. Know this and accept it. Personal morality is essentially aesthetics; avoiding what is unpleasing to the senses and emotions, and morality is both fluid and informed by life experiences. Response: I can concede to this. But it doesn't change my mind, as I am certain you assumed would be my response. Just because someones moral compass is fucked (possibly) due to influence doesn't make them any less undeserving of any sympathy once they've committed acts so vile. Even the desire to commit such acts should be punishable. 4) The framework for sexuality and morality are laid principally very early on in life. Abuse / stress during this period can lead to fucked up shit like pedophilia. Retort: See my previous response. 5) The framework for sexuality and morality can be changed later in life (e.g; Pavlov’s electro-shock therapy, or trolling someone so fucking hard that they psychologically dislocate from the trolled persona and go furry / troon the fuck out). Retort: So...now conversion therapy is acceptable. Well right on. 6) Pedophilia is born from a fucked sense of aesthetics, pleasure in exercising power over the helpless and psychological regression back to the original cause of the abuse (where applicable). Retort: Seems like you are pretty mucb repeating yourselr at this point. 7) Impotent men who cannot achieve sexual release will often resort to violence. Often fucking catastrophic levels of violence (the link between serial killers / childhood abuse is profound). Deballing / chemically castrating pedophiles is therefore likely to make the fucking problem WORSE because they will literally FUCK YOUR CHILDREN TO DEATH WITH RAKES. Retort: That seems to have been the case with Peter Kürten. My solution is lock them up forever where they can't fuck my children with rakes. 8) Your justice system is fucking broken, conflating justice with revenge and being corrupt as fuck. Retort: I don't go light on pedophiles. 9) Even if your justice system wasn’t fucked and could be trusted with that sort of power, you are only ever four years away from a different set of motherfuckers who might NOT be able to be trusted with that sort of power. Inquiry: Is this still you educating me? 10) Power-creep: what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Today you are castrating pedophiles, tomorrow it will be rapists, ten years time it will be speds like your good self. Retort: I suppose we should stop imprisoning murderers then. Because tomorrow it will be traffic violators. Ten years from now it'll be people like you that are dicks for no reason. 11) Power once seceded CANNOT be reclaimed. Inquiry: I don't understand why this was said. After you call me stupid, please expound on this. 12) Surgery does not and never will repair pathology. Retort: If you look back, I never said it would cure them of their pedophilia. If you wish to keep at it, I suggest a P.M. This conversation has nothing to do with "doomworld happenings" or anything Doom in general. If you want to, after you feel like you've made me look dumb, you can share screenshots of our private conversation with whoever it is you are trying to impress and I wouldn't be bothered by that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 5:54:46 GMT -5
I think this is super interesting personally
Giving some entity, government or otherwise, the ability to euthanize people because they posses undesirable mental traits is a slippery slope I personally wouldn't want to go down. It's just an excuse to strip more rights away from people. I agree we should be trying to find a solution or "cure" for pedophilic thoughts, if such a thing is even possible, but advocating for the government(?) to have the right to castrate/euthanize someone with undesirable traits is an extremely bad idea.
Also Memfis is correct: Having a (disgusting) desire and acting on that desire are two wildly different things. I don't think people able to control their perverse urges should be punished in any way. That is antithetical to the very concept of freedom.
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Post by TOS on Jan 29, 2018 7:25:51 GMT -5
Murdering someone for pedophilic thoughts...no. But preventing someone who gets off on the idea of fuckint kids from having kids is something I would absolutely be behind.
I understand your argument about that wort of thing being a slippery slope, though. It is a valid concern.
If only they gave amnesty to vigilante fathers. That'd make at least some people think twice before trying anything.
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Post by 40oz on Jan 29, 2018 9:36:42 GMT -5
Murdering someone for pedophilic thoughts...no. But preventing someone who gets off on the idea of fuckint kids from having kids is something I would absolutely be behind. I understand your argument about that wort of thing being a slippery slope, though. It is a valid concern. If only they gave amnesty to vigilante fathers. That'd make at least some people think twice before trying anything. I'm not getting the impression that anyone here is advocating that it should be ok to sacrifice a few children to the pedophiles so they can continue being what they are. I think we can all agree that would be a pretty sick and dangerous solution. What they are saying is that we shouldn't be so terrified of this problem that we can only react to it with violence and disgust. You know just as well as I that the definition of the word "racist" is shifting and continuing to shift to include a variety of ambiguous language that implies racism or any sort of micro aggression that addresses differences in culture and religion and ethnicity. This would be very dangerous world to live in if racism was punishable with the threat of death. So lets take the word pedophilia. At the moment, it only harms young children. But suppose we talk about this enough to expand this category to include teenagers, or immature adults, or inebriated adults, or people who make jokes related to pedophilia, or adults who have been sheltered from the idea of sexuality to the point that they'd be just as traumatized as a young child would no matter what age they are. Where do we draw the line when anyone can have an opinion on what a pedophile is? We're already stepped into extremely treacherous territory by enabling a legal precedent that it's ok to lock people up in cages just for owning masturbating material related to it, even before they've actually done anything to harm anyone. This topic has been made to be so horrifying that no one wants to go near it, so we don't know with 100% certainty if pedophilia is a learned behavior versus something that occurs naturally or through some other external inoccuous factor that no one could have known to control. I can't condone the filming of child porn. I'm curious, what would you say about cartoons, comics, and stuff like that? I like this question, because it tests my disgust. That doesn't happen very often. I guess I'd look at it this way: Perhaps you know someone who smokes cigarettes. Suppose, hypothetically, that their cravings for nicotine were so sensitive that to be deprived of it, would cause them to go on murderous rampages, bludgeoning anyone who gets in their path. At this time, the only way we know to pacify these people is to give them cancer causing cigarettes. I don't like cigarettes, and I don't like what they do to people, but if this were the case, I'd advocate to allow shops to carry cigarettes for people to buy for these nuanced but terribly dangerous possibilities. I'm picking between steamed brocolli and brussel sprouts for dessert here, but yeah I'd have to say that cartoon porn depicting children should probably be ok until we know there's a humane way to reverse this problem.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 11:01:07 GMT -5
Well, it's not a choice to be or not to be a pedophile. It's simply something that happens to your body. And AFAIK attraction to children can't really be "cured" so far, just like conversion therapy never worked. Should we say fuck these people because they were born unlucky? Distilled down a bit, your basic assertion is that certain criminals should be treated better or offered help because their problem is a result of something outside of their control, like genetics or upbringing. This is a classic leftist idea that sounds good in theory but falls apart when applied to the real world. This is why academics can't and shouldn't set policy, because theories and ideas that get bounced around a classroom or college lecture hall don't mean fuck-all if they aren't proven to work in practice. The painful reality is that most if not all criminals are either born with a tendency towards criminal behavior, or are influenced in that direction by their environment. Or both. We simply can't rehabilitate everyone. Bring back public executions and stiffen punishments; this is really the best way to help criminals suppress their natural instincts. It may not be warm and fuzzy and ACLU-aproved, but it works.
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Post by BattleKorbi on Jan 29, 2018 11:31:35 GMT -5
Now for my take on the situation (Didn't ask for it, you say? Well, I asked myself and I am answering out loud. Problem?)
I take the "higher 'moral' conservative" route here, when I am saying "Think about the children".
It has been made quite obvious these days to what happens to pedophiles, and by extend child molesters (pedophiles who act on this); Everyone ostracizes them. Even in prisons, serial killers are disgusted by them, and often make examples to them. I believe they are ostracized for a good reason. Just think about the children. What are they going through when they are going through the act itself.
Varying countries have varying ages of consent; these points being determined by the law force itself. It seems like most lawmakers take into consent even the most minor of violations upon the law of consent, and that is why "barruly eghtteen porrrn" exists. Just having incriminating material like this can land someone in jail, for a reason similar to the old saying which potrays that it is better to stop these heresies in their beginnings rather than deal with their consequences later. The consequences are just too dire to let go and happen, and even if someone swore he wouldn't touch little children in hidden spots, he would still be suspicious and would be learnt a lesson. Its just one of the things that make the modern society look like a dystopian setting. Prohibiting stuff like that, that even thinking out loud about it will "trigger everyone's brainwashing" and start ostracizing the potential pedophile. And, its one of the things we have to deal with that they exist. It is just incomparable in its own category, you cannot really just associate it with any other sexuality, at least out-loud, because it is that bad. I mean, if rapists are straying away from you, you done something way too fucked up.
How to deal with them? Same as always, cannot risk this stuff. When it comes to individual cases of someone framing someone for having child porn, that is within their capabilities and options, but in general, these rules are as loose as they can be without getting worse, which, in our perspective, looks pretty darn tight and un-merciful.
The philosophy behind this is simple: Children, infants, toddlers, they are all people like you and me. They might not read well, and they might not follow the daily political news or drink coffee, but they are people. We were all kids once. We might had grown up in a literal prison or coddled with toys, but in essence, no one under 18 is a object or a animal or anything other than a human being. Reason we treat children like children is exactly that; lack of experience, and possible lack of physical and mental prowess. That is why parents exist, and that is why some people are hardcoded to be caring parents who would do anything for their children, even if they become the most annoying little shits ever, children are human beings. Also, children are supposed to be innocent. A young boy might sneak a peek at the naked lady in the magazine, but still, that young boy is pretty much innocent. Does he know how life is? Probably is, but not as wrong and horrifiyng as children who grew up with child molesters. Just like how they say that the rapist would always be someone whom you least expect, the same often goes for molesters. If a child would grow up thinking it isn't a human being but a torture/sex object, a toy someone uses to play with... well... life pretty much wasted for nothing. Years of life, of adolescency, spent into training and becoming a animal of some sort, a slave, thinking it isn't worth of existing outside someone's fantasy. It is bad.
Of course, this is the worst case scenario I am speaking off. You may go full depresso and say "HOO ALL HUMANS ARE ANIMALS ANYWAYS SNORT SNORT" or "CHILDREN SHULD KONW ABOUT LIEF BEFORE ITS TOO LATE BOO HOO" , and I ask, "Who are you to determine how parents should parent?" More often than not, a lot of normal parents are against seeing their child being abused and enslaved by someone who thinks that stuff is normal. It might had been in some red-pill guy's fantasy, but no, we as people have grown and learned that we live and exist within our lineage, within our bloodline, within our dynasty. We want our offsprings to proudly present the values we so want to preserve.
Of course, I am unofficialy speaking in the name of conservative parents who think well of their family but also have a sense of the world and their surroundings, and don't "change the rules how they think it should work" (overly religious and restricting parents go here). There are obviously other sorts of families, not every family is as grand as wide nor does it seep deep into history, so what I am saying might not make sense for some more "liberally-inclined" parents who want their child to be what they want, but trust me, no bloody parent with even a shred of decency would wish nor imagine their or any other child being abused.
Yes yes, I know, "KORBE ITS 2018 DEFINITIONS CHENG, WE USED TO THINK GAYS SHOULD BE BURNT OBV YOU ARE STUCK IN 1800s WEIK UP KORBE", but, I am assured, that, while homosexuality and all things -sexuality might had been persecuted for a while, they used to exist just fine in many cultures in the world. It wasn't until Our Lord himself brought up his people, that someone thought "masturbation and gay sex? No children! No children = no nation, OH NOOO", and while there might had been cases similar to that as well, all sorts of sexualities just resonated as ages came and passed. But it has always been pedophiles who were scrutinized and ostracized and punished. Only cultures which didn't care about pedophiles, well, they had their way coming when they allowed incest into their families and inbreeding, and were just horny dogs who had no sense of wrong, just of what was "right", that being said, cultures which endorsed sex with children were fucked way before they came to that point, and just warped themselves out of existence, or are in a process of warping themselves out. Only Hollywood movies can make you think there are civilizations out there which haven't ostracized pedophiles and lived to tell the tale. They would have to be eldritch aliens, to have no concept of "age" or some third shit.
Wrapping this short essay up with this paragraph: Pedophiles exist, yeah, but, the way it seems, they are better off imagining that stuff in their heads and keeping it there. If dystopian fantasies of mind control and mind reading were to ever come true, then these people would surely stop existing all together. They might pop in un-announced, but they might dissappear just as they appearred, much like blisters or moles upon one's skin. It is taboo as fuck, and not because of "common courtesy that came out of western something something egg salad" but because of the pain that everyone has to share, and the damage that just cannot be paid with a pocket of change, ever. Those who would act out their fantasies upon a child, are literally scarring them for life, just as they began to live it. I know depressos would so wanna scream into my ear that "LIFE IS SHIT AND THEY SHOULD KNOW IT", but that isn't like that, and we all know it. Children deserve to have good memories, to create memories which they could use as a anchor in their adult life, such as knowing there are things like the concept of simplicity and pure joy, that this and that happens, and precautions, hopes and dreams. Whenever someone touches a child like that wrong, all the good stuff which can make life even better just... seep out. Not to mention those who were raised thinking that is the right way (being submissive to their own kin and other warped sins like that), its a fundamentally wrong thing that cannot ever be justified, and I believe the law and society is doing a great job on stopping all those vile heresies from happening in the first place, right at the root.
Now you can boo me as much as you want, but remember to whom you are speaking to. I myself had signed a petition that child molesters in my country should be branded for the rest of their lives in the "pedophile registry", just fucking dare touch my little cousin or little brother, or even my future son. If law doesn't catch you, fucker, I will. The end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 14:49:18 GMT -5
I will never accept them and any attempt to normalize/accept it. I don't like it and they should stay in the closet and never have representation in society. I do not care how they feel about it. It is objectively wrong.
Possible solution: Increase their testosterone levels and introduce them to thicc hentai or something featuring mature thicc women as a remedy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2018 15:15:13 GMT -5
I do not care how they feel about it. Would you be able to repeat this phrase if you found out that one of your acquaintances is a pedophile? It is not an impossible scenario at all. If I came out as a pedophile, would you suddenly completely lose any sympathy for me despite having only positive exchanges in the past? Does attraction to children override everything? What if it was a family member who has been nice to you for decades? Still no desire to console them at all? One revelation turns all previous experiences into dust?
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