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Post by ketmar on Mar 17, 2022 8:09:32 GMT -5
But i'm not gonna point the finger at one of them and say "Im quitting this because of you", fuck off. That's pathetic. That tells more about yourself than the one that you're putting the blame on. One thing is to quit some place because you lost interest or if staying there is too energy-draining. But to give an name or email address as a justification for such, is just plain weakness. so when i left zdoom forums for ever due to one specific moderator (yes, rachel, here's the name), i showed my weakness by this? since when i signed a contract to keep that fact secret, and Fight Till The End?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 8:17:57 GMT -5
Regarding "one of the most terrifying people he has ever seen on any forum ever" - that is a flattery to me. I intend to one day live up to it for real. You know, decade ago I wished to join some cult or something so that people would think that of me. And now they award it to me all by themselves.
But I am absolutely not coming back here. Yet I'd like to debunk the "memfis most talented mapper" myth a bit, and the rest.
He made no contributions whatsoever to the doomer boards after DBP23 (that was the last DBPs where he made some demos). Past achievements don't matter by this point - he was dormant on the subject of doom for over the year. Meanwhile, many high profile projects were done by doomer boards krew (the actual guys responsible for the style and popularity of DBP) and newcomers.
I also, in the past, has mentioned that he was hated on doomworld, which certain non-descript users tried to contest. Since this time I get to reply, here is the fact: memfis had rightfully earned his status "I don't like thing" on doomworld, and was not once criticized by Linguica and dew for being obnoxious, like a pest, contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. His posts both on Doomworld and on these boards were equally toxic, like "why do X people care about Y (implication on why it's not X business)" as if it was wrong for people to care (or not to care) about things. Passive-aggressiveness is another word for this brand of toxicity. Also can be likened to the concept of "concern trolling", or a reverse there of: he liked to attack the personality of another person expressing concern, shifting the topic from concern to the allegedly questionable validity of having a concern.
Needless to say, that the board is better without such a user? However, I still have nothing to do with him deleting his account.
The person who deletes his account is the sole one responsible for that act. No one forced him to delete it, no one prevented him from returning. He deleted it because he was mentally weak, troubled.
He posted his photos on this forum not so long before his withdrawal, in his own topic "how to pretend I know something about fashion", where people jokingly commented that he might have become gay. Now, if you folks understand how the mind and social relations work, the embarassment he *might* have felt could have severed the links to other people in his own mind. In other word, he made himself ostracized, because the replies, although benign, made it plausible to believe that those people won't relate to him anymore because he is the "other", gay-looking man who is not proud of being man (on that subject, note his use of "male" rather than "man" in topic of "toxic masculinity". It's not the only place where he used "male" rather than "man" btw). So, his own mental picture of his social adjustment to the doomer boards community became shallow. What followed, is that after I had been banned, there were people who welcomed me back, there was a promise by darknation to post some revelations that wasn't met, and then there was a post by @contracommando with videos showing some deadly swords being acted on mannequins. Despite @contracommando ignoring my flattering posts to him - which quite clearly would have indicated I am not a special person from the perspective of long-standing members - memfis-the-milksauce suddenly decided to post "Enough" in this thread and delete his account.
So that's it. He deleted himself, because he felt he didn't belong with other people here, what with @contracommando having testosterone rush when he feels like talking about beating people up or enjoying videos of violence, or with people seemingly laughing at his attempts at looking fashionable (and making him look like a man wearing "I'm gay" badge), etc. And more than that, he didn't choose to simply stop coming, he and only he made the decision to delete himself.
An icing on cake for those who 'like' memfis works: memfis didn't appreciate receiving cacoward (am I getting this right? It was a full cacoward, not a runner-up, right? not bothering to check) for kuchitsu, for whatever reasons. He felt that work didn't deserve an award or something, at least at the time the award was publicly assigned to his work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 8:27:09 GMT -5
Here is where memfis choosed to perform his own's account virtual suicide: doomer.boards.net/thread/2129/internet-memes-sub-culture (link avaiable to registered members only) Now, in regards to fashion thread, here it is: doomer.boards.net/thread/1795/pretend-fashionAnd by the way, it seems that it may have been easier than my 'conspiracy' with embarassment after posting poor taste photos of oneself onto the net. "Most talented guy" had a skin so thin you could pierce it with a human's breath. The founding member doesn't like memes? "Oh noes, he doesn't like me" screams the venerated wuss and deletes his own account. And look at who tries to resursicate that idol - a good for nothing shitposter. Have you payed your debt to joe-ilya yet, for not making the wad before the deadline you set yourself? Or do I need to travel to Serbia and collect it? On the other thought, not seriously considering it. It would be against the proboards TOS.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 17:16:35 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing vigilant. Hey this memfis guy is kinda good looking. If people thought that his visual was gay af, then i think it's best not posting any pics of myself around these parts. Maybe nudes tho
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 21:25:46 GMT -5
Idk why the fuck someone would delete their account because I posted some picture of violence. I thought this was a fucking doom forum!
Also, don't be upset if I ignore posts, I rarely read any of the post here. Especially if they are longer than just a few words.
I'm aloof to 95% of all of the drama and rivalries on here, and in the broader community.
I didn't even know there was a schism when it happened.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Mar 17, 2022 22:48:13 GMT -5
@p0 it seriously doesn't matter who's pathetic, who's cringe, who's based (me) and who has a large delicious throbbing cock (me again). The fact is that a multiple cacoward winner left the forum because of a guy with a persistent delusion that the FSB is out to get him. And some of the guys who left too may have done that for the same reason. We end up with a person that's driving people away. That's what's pathetic. Tl;dr vigilant's post trololol I'm sure it's stupid Edit, Memfis's post that I was referring to is on page 2 of this cursed cursed thread. doomer.boards.net/thread/2105/dear-white-people-black-racism
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 23:04:53 GMT -5
1. I debunked your claim about his leave being linked to me already. 2. Value declines over time if person ceases to do contributions. memfis expired a year before his voluntary exile, so let's dump that shit into the toilet and flush it for good.
In other words, no one cares if you did cacowards in the past, if you stop contributing anything doom-wise and only post shit or to annoy others. Having memfis added nothing of value to this forum, just as having you. You can't even pay debt, and in my nation this is a serious offense, punished by rape and forced tattooing (with tattoos showing to everyone that a person is a pariah that must consent to anal sex on every occassion), or severing a limb. In forum context, you absolutely ought to be permabanned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2022 23:19:24 GMT -5
And, let's not forget that mass exodus and the formation of DBK community project elsewhere happened because of the disagreement between 40oz and doomer boards crew. Now, that is an undisputable fact, unlike your speculations. How happens that you blame me for members leaving, but not 40oz? A lot more members left because of him than because of me, with the first number being undisputable and the latter theoretic.
How many members are proven to have left because of me? Zero.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Mar 17, 2022 23:49:57 GMT -5
1. I debunked your claim about his leave being linked to me already. 2. Value declines over time if person ceases to do contributions. memfis expired a year before his voluntary exile, so let's dump that shit into the toilet and flush it for good. In other words, no one cares if you did cacowards in the past, if you stop contributing anything doom-wise and only post shit or to annoy others. Having memfis added nothing of value to this forum, just as having you. You can't even pay debt, and in my nation this is a serious offense, punished by rape and forced tattooing (with tattoos showing to everyone that a person is a pariah that must consent to anal sex on every occassion), or severing a limb. In forum context, you absolutely ought to be permabanned. This is such a hypocritical post that it's almost funny. Except that it isn't funny because you're not joking and you're really that braindead and hateful. Wasn't your only doom contribution that shitty DBP map you made on your phone in a dos emulator or something? Probably 2-ish years ago now. Oh and of course I'm forgetting your node builder that exists only in your head. Contributions don't have a "best before" date. If you had ever made any, maybe you'd have known that. Especially when your body of work is as fucking massive as Memfis's is. Or even when it's small (like mine lol but suck my dick I have a doomwiki page).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 0:03:57 GMT -5
i'll be straight up: Even if memfis never won a cacoward i'd still rather have a doom mapper I can learn from and bounce ideas off of instead of a weirdo rightoid who is medically incapable of going 30 minutes without screaming about black-on-white crime or whatever that never actually contribute
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Post by matador on Mar 18, 2022 2:23:23 GMT -5
1. I debunked your claim about his leave being linked to me already. 2. Value declines over time if person ceases to do contributions. memfis expired a year before his voluntary exile, so let's dump that shit into the toilet and flush it for good. In other words, no one cares if you did cacowards in the past, if you stop contributing anything doom-wise and only post shit or to annoy others. Having memfis added nothing of value to this forum, just as having you. You can't even pay debt, and in my nation this is a serious offense, punished by rape and forced tattooing (with tattoos showing to everyone that a person is a pariah that must consent to anal sex on every occassion), or severing a limb. In forum context, you absolutely ought to be permabanned. This is such a hypocritical post that it's almost funny. Except that it isn't funny because you're not joking and you're really that braindead and hateful. Wasn't your only doom contribution that shitty DBP map you made on your phone in a dos emulator or something? Probably 2-ish years ago now. Oh and of course I'm forgetting your node builder that exists only in your head. Contributions don't have a "best before" date. If you had ever made any, maybe you'd have known that. Especially when your body of work is as fucking massive as Memfis's is. Or even when it's small (like mine lol but suck my dick I have a doomwiki page). Fair enough if you think his map is shit but at least he made a map. It's really easy to criticize from the sidelines, a lot less easy to actually put yourself out there and try to make something. Plus his contributions go beyond his DBP23 map, he playtested every DBP from 23 to 35, plus 37 and 45. It's not the type of contribution that anyone outside this forum will know about and it won't win him any cacowards but its a valuable contribution nonetheless, especially since dedicated playtesters are so rare around these parts. Frankly, if you think you've got more to offer than him, you should put your money where your mouth is.
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Post by Lobo on Mar 18, 2022 2:51:14 GMT -5
And VigilantDoomer also helped me, and by extension CeeJay, with a complicated script for Doombuilder.X which nobody on DW was willing or able to.
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Post by BIG DICK NIGGA on Mar 18, 2022 3:32:13 GMT -5
matador It's cool that he did all that, but it doesn't prove his point in any way, nor does it make him not a hypocrite. you should put your money where your mouth is. Been there, done that, many times. I have 20-ish maps to my name, some even being decent, and several other contributions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 4:10:00 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 4:24:09 GMT -5
Guys, this is just a website for having fun, are you fucking retarded or what? Nobody "has" to do anything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 4:25:30 GMT -5
That's a general doomer boards statement.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 5:25:27 GMT -5
I'm kind of finished with Doom, I just make dumb posts here because I'm bored. But even that is losing its luster.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 6:27:58 GMT -5
@segfault, you'd have to dig his past works since he was not producing any even he was still a user. Ditto with xeep-eep. Also, what precludes you from learning from far better and more interesting mappers? Even some newer ones have an interesting style - mayhemicdestrvctor , for example. As for your political bias, can't you be happy with just limiting yourself to doomworld and not bother to come here if you can't take these kind of discussions that were always historically done here and will always be done again?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 6:32:25 GMT -5
So some of you nerds may be a bit confused about the recent conflict between the forum administration and certain users (by which I mean 40oz and @vigilantdoomer obvs), as well as 40's recent imprecations to 'love' one another or w/e. What's going on is essentially a battle between the pro- and anti-Longhouse elements of the community (I am part of the latter btw, so yes you can reasonably criticise me for bias). So, most of you are probably asking, what's a Longhouse and why are you capitalising it like some pompous fuckin German? Well, first of all it's a proper noun so I can capitalise it if I want, but mostly to distinguish it from traditional Scandinavian architecture. The Longhouse is basically feminine social control. I'll let the Eighth Century Woodchipper explain further: We can quibble about the historicity of his description of life in pre-Aryan Europe (which, to me, frankly reeks of 60s anthropology, and as such is probably fake and gay), and tbh I think the Longhouse is more a product of feminised, ie. maladjusted, men (hi 40!) rather than women, but the last few sentences do describe a mode of social control quite well, which is basically the creed of never ever arguing and always 'getting along'. This is primarily a feminine thing and is rooted in the fact that chicks tend to stay mad after fighting with someone, whereas dudes usually make up pretty quickly (as the linked article mentions in passing, this is also observably true for chimpanzees) -- thus we can reasonably expect women and feminised men to smother all conflict before it starts in order to prevent hard feelings/the loss of social cohesion in the future, using primarily feminine means, which in this context basically means shaming people -- if you don't know, 'shame' is when you are conscious of your social group's disapproval; this is distinct from 'guilt', which is what you feel when you know you've done something wrong regardless of whether anybody else knows about it (so it's possible to feel shame when you haven't actually done anything wrong, if you are surrounded by tards with shitty social norms. I got paid out once in high school for not shoplifting, for example). (digression about the role of shame follows)
I will add that shame isn't necessarily bad -- I work for a book wholesaler and one of the books we had through recently was Diagnosis Normal by Emma A Jane, a memoir by a severely depressed feminist who was molested as a child (but I repeat myself). She describes being 'slut-shamed' as a teenager by her peers while simultaneously admitting that her actions were, um, unhelpful for her own well-being; so she herself tacitly admits that if she'd listened to her classmates and engaged in healthier, ie. more monogamous, sexual behaviour she would have been better off. Hence why it's important not to associate with dipshits! Im giving every one of you a free hug. A lot of you seem to be seriously attention deprived and acting really fucking ugly towards one another. Its really gross and it looks like your lives are turning into a preventable tornado of anxiety and brain rot. Break the cycle and start saying nice things about each other. Now. You guys all like doom and you need to be grateful that you can be around people who also like this shitty game with you. If you dont have your people to talk about Doom with, where else are you gonna go? Instead i see you guys talking only about things you disagree with each other about and getting roped into these miserable arguments. There has to be something you like about being here. Please think about it carefully and take the initiative to make this place better for the other members youre sharing this community with. I really dont want to have to be your dad right now but I love you guys and I just could use a little less dissappointment right now if you dont mind. Note the bolded parts (emphasis mine) are basically all referring to the way others perceive us; it 'looks like' we have brain rot, he's disappointed with us. The proposed solution is also to smother conflict by being nice regardless of whether or not we mean it -- '[Say] nice things about each other'. I gather he deleted the Doomworld thread too (vigi seemed upset about it in the other thread)? I haven't been doing doom stuff recently so I haven't been on the forum for a while, mostly just dropped by to see what the resident slavs have to say about the recent invasion of the Ukraine by Russia tbh. In any case it's another good example of conflict smothering by removing a potential flashpoint. NOW I don't want to single 40 out since he isn't the only soyboy here, and in fact for my money @pistoolkip is even worse! Here's a sample, from the 'One Humanity' thread (I cut out his playthrough video as irrelevant, you can follow the link if you'd like to watch it): Damn, this thread does not make this community look good, let me tell you. You don't have to play it. You don't have to give Romero your money. You can donate through other channels. Just don't be a bitch about it. Don't really need to emphasise anything here since the whole thing is pure Longhouse, starting with an explicit appeal to the feelings of other communities before culminating in an explicit demand for us not to criticise people who aren't even on this forum! I may have had a go at 40 but at least he keeps things Doomer Boards. Pleased to see this shitty post got ripped on in the other thread btw, keep it up boys.
NOW you may be asking, what's the problem with the Longhouse? Well obviously men don't really want to relate to each other in a feminine way, and Doom fans are basically all men (even the 'women'), and in fact as far as I know this forum was founded explicitly in order to bypass the Longhousing of DW (after political, ie. conflict-prone, discussions were banned there. But @vordakk can correct me if I'm wrong). This implies that the members here are willing to tolerate, if not enjoy, more aggressive posting styles. There's also the fact that Longhouses fuckin suck, and nobody posts anything interesting because, well, you might get in trouble. DW is obviously inane as hell, but the worst Longhouse forum on the web (that I know about anyway) is probably RPG.net, which is a forum ostensibly for tabletop role-playing games like Dungeons & Dragons. Take a look at it's 'Infractions' forum, where naughty boys are told off, and tell me if you think it would be fun to post there. In conclusion, please don't Longhouse us 40. You claim to hate the standard of discussion on DW but you're moving to recreate the conditions there and the results are both inevitable and obvious. Not to mention the fact that DW already exists for people who like that. Antisocials need forums too Doomer.boards.net is a haunted Kurgan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 6:48:38 GMT -5
@segfault , you'd have to dig his past works since he was not producing any even he was still a user. Ditto with xeep-eep. Also, what precludes you from learning from far better and more interesting mappers? Even some newer ones have an interesting style - mayhemicdestrvctor , for example. As for your political bias, can't you be happy with just limiting yourself to doomworld and not bother to come here if you can't take these kind of discussions that were always historically done here and will always be done again? Even though I don't produce anything anymore, my work is extensive and everlasting. Btw, can you list your body of work?
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Mar 18, 2022 7:10:01 GMT -5
@segfault , you'd have to dig his past works since he was not producing any even he was still a user. Ditto with xeep-eep. Also, what precludes you from learning from far better and more interesting mappers? Even some newer ones have an interesting style - mayhemicdestrvctor , for example. As for your political bias, can't you be happy with just limiting yourself to doomworld and not bother to come here if you can't take these kind of discussions that were always historically done here and will always be done again? i feel a little bit confused did you say my maps are interesting or that i have to go on doomworld
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 7:36:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the link xeep. I always like to have multiple perspectives about this things.
Weird, i double checked the post that you're refering to and it does not appear at all in the search engine. Huh. I don't know if i need to grab my grandpa spectacles or my tin foil hat.
I'm gonna carefully read the entire trhead later, but so far.. i don't know man, this memfis dude smells like pussy. I'm not judging tho. Just describing the scent that my nose is picking. After all, i've been called a pussy and a chicken so far, so i think that me and memfis-boy would get along pretty well. Also, after seeing his fashionable looks last night i understand why you get behind him so passionately.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2022 8:06:08 GMT -5
mayhemicdestrvctor the former, vigilante likes your maps ketmar Yes. And the justification is on the same post, so i don't think i need to elaborate any further on that. It's just my opinion after all. My word is not The Law. And if you like to think that you were brave and stunning for leaving a community just because some admin was giving you a hard time, then good for you. Also, i don't know your history - so if it involved constant sabotage and/or banning of your content. Then there's not much you could have done anyways. Still, i think it would be better being cast out from there by the boots of an admin then by your own. I don't have any particular problems with DW admins, for example. "So why you don't post there, you fucker?" Well, because my existence there would be short-lived. I see this as my personal gift to them. Also i have a pathological dislike for large crowds. On DB not only i'm allowed to exist -- bows in reverence to our founding fathers-- but i also feel more c0mfy around the wild life present here. One could argue that admins has superior powers to annoy and harass anyone if they want to. And that's fair. But commoners can also retaliate if they had the will and energy to do so. Admins are people too, they can break. Maybe, you should go back there and try.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Mar 18, 2022 8:38:42 GMT -5
ok (: thanks for that
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Post by ketmar on Mar 18, 2022 9:04:53 GMT -5
And if you like to think that you were brave and stunning for leaving a community just because some admin was giving you a hard time, then good for you. there is also a third way of thinking: it's not cowardice, and not bravery. that's what i tried to hint at. Admins are people too, they can break. Maybe, you should go back there and try. that's what i can't care less. but i DO care when idiotic incompetent asshole thinks that it is not idiotic, and competent enough to not only say things (idiotic as fuck for any competent engineer) in technical discussions, but moderate them. and she becomes even dumber as the time passing, so there is even less reason to "return". so i can't see leaving them without my expertise as "cowardice" of any sort. they clearly don't need it. so k8vavoom has fully dynamic shadowmaps (including shadows from sprites and textures), real floor and ceiling decals, properly working 3d polyobjects you can ride on (or inside), and some other interesting things, and GZDoom doesn't. time much better spent than trying to constantly fight completely incompetent admin.
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