The messy tales of the ZDOOM Discord

"Welcome to our Discord, let's start out by talking about politics. This isn't political. Deal with the politics or GTFO!"

Ironically, the purpose is likely the same as the intro page to the Discord that they're making fun of (or at least I think they are, I have no idea WTF I'm actually looking at). To start an argument by bringing up politics while providing absolutely no context. "Look at this controversial thing and react to it". Fun.

I wouldn't personally welcome people to my Discord/whatever by telling them not to talk about things that I'm talking about right off the bat, but if someone doesn't like the rules, they can just not join that group. It's not like they aren't being honest and upfront about their beliefs and political stance. Then again, I don't understand this video. I swear I've seen it somewhere else though, or at least something very similar, as I can remember the audio.

Also, what exactly is "trash writing", and why would you want to do that on purpose? Is that supposed to be like trash TV?

People should be able to express themselves on doomer boards without having to worry about "what situational lurkers will think of this place".

You seem to have a narrow vision that people here should be primarly discussing doom or be making this a welcome place to some demographic, but actually what people value about doomer boards is it being a censorship-free place for its users, a platform where many doomers share right-wing, conservative and potentially even far right opinions so that you can finally connect to like-minded doomers and not the brain-damaged leftists on Doom-related places elsewhere.

ketmar, I think he posted the topic because he expected that people here would be familiar with injustice (given the sizeable number of members who were banned in other places) that happens on other forums, so he could make some reciprocal emotional connection to these people by suggesting he has experienced it too.

An expectation that would be quite fair some time ago when glen & co were around, 40oz was nowhere in sight (having abandoned community), and people were tearing up at other places like DW all the time, discussing which people could be pulled over to doomer boards or how certain characters are cool but need to cunt it up a little... yeah I was only a lurker at that time, but basically this seemed to me a friendly refugee place for political dissidents and other mistreated folk.

Now, with that picture in mind, reread 40oz words in this thread and try to convince me they were not over the board harsh.

Humans are social creatures, that's why you can't merely be posting some work and instead want to at least occassionally talk about your other interests too, find common points or validation and support of your worldview, etc. It would take a manipulative psychopath to only ever do doom projects and not expose anything about themselves.

ketmar
His first post was in Doom Projects forum:
doomer.boards.net/thread/2421/bloodwar?page=1

P.S. And the question of being or not being social network is irrelevant. This is general human mind's property, and the very reason off-topic subforums exist almost everywhere on old-fashioned "forums" are because of it. Furthermore, the reason social networks gained so far momentum is because they've built around this pre-existing need. (train of thought continues under spoiler)

I watched it, and have things to say:
1. First, the message (pinned by Rachael) is absolutely fucked up. Being pro-Black Lives Matter is absolutely political, as you advertise support for specific movement wanting specific (and unfair) changes to society, not the black people themselves. Being pro-LGBTQ+ is also ambiguous - do you support the people themselves, or the activists with their specific vision of how society should be reconstructed to support those people? These are not the same thing - very far from being the same thing indeed. By the way, some people I met in local LGBTQ+ community in my town understood that (some) right-wingers can be better to them than (some) left-wingers: _a transgendered person_ advocated for not being disrespectful towards right-wingers in a closed support group for transgendered and non-binary people.
2. So, the message utilizes some Orwellian Newspeak, you would do well to your sanity by avoiding such places. My attitude towards Rachael was never good (cue heir stance on suicide), and that was from her Zdom forums post already. I've never been on Discord in my life, zdoom forums were bad enough for me I never registered on it even though I have wanted to do some testing for DBK when they've parted from doomer boards. I came to conclusion that it would be too much a toll on my sanity to be posting on Zdoom forums.
3. Lol at how Boondorl tries to whitewash id games by stating it "rarely put you up against regular people" and thus is "friendly" to their audience, was always "left-leaning", how awesome and tolerant the present day Romero is. Ignoring the fact how Cyberdemon shoots stuff from his crotch, the John Romero's attitude about how you can humiliate the loser in deathmatch, psychopathy issues (I remember that one of them committed theft in adolescence) among id staff, obviously male macho protagonist, digitized and pixelized photographs of dismembered/hanged people (twitching corpses as well), dismembered rabbit at the end of Doom I etc. By the way, chaingunners are black in original game, and wasn't there a lore somewhere that they are actually traitors who voluntarily joined demon's team instead of being possessed? Note that I do acknowledge that lore is not from id Doom, but from some company that made a console port of it?
4. LOL I don't understand how Discord functions, so it comes down to the question whether you posted your wad to your Discord server, or whether you had an account there and they just have taken a look inside your wads and removed you from Discord for the wads you posted elsewhere.

Anyway, their Discord was such a painful shit to read I would count being banned from it as a BLESSING. You are the real winner in the situation.

I DO hope you don't actually hate the black and gay people (despite using the derogatory names associated with these categories), though. But you have my welcome to stay here regardless (I'm not a staff member, though - just a regular fellow like you).

P.S. I would like to reiterate from point 1: NEVER confuse some people's group with activists claiming to support these group. NEVER confuse support blacks with support to BLM. NEVER confuse queer people with LGBTQ+ activists wanting to take away free speech. Within LGBTQ+ community itself, there are authentic people who DISAGREE with what activists do. Always keep that in mind and don't hate the people (gay, black, transgendered, and others) for what the activist scum does. Hate leftist activist scum, not the people they _claim_ to protect.

Orgh hai Audom Moy, quite a short time no see. How it is going buddy?

Also, watched both videos. Part one was funnier.

that's exactly what is called "soapboxing".

please, get off your soapbox already. please.

ketmar I can always enlarge my ignore list, and I remember you declined my proposition to you to avoid harassing certain person with your advice, so guess up which dark pathway you can stuff your pleas?

Gentlemen, please cool down for a moment.
Alright!

@vigilantdoomer what is Rachael's stance on suicide, out of curiosity?