Tangerine Nightmare - Now on idgames

Great job, looking forward to playing!

I found this very very good. The style is new but still totally Doomy (which I can't say about most mapsets that experiment with colors), and it is done in an impressively coherent way, with all levels feeling like a part of the same world and high quality design everywhere. I'm assuming these guys spent quite some time playing each others' levels and suggesting improvements, as you can sense a certain mapping philosophy throughout the whole wad. If this counts as a community project, it's an ideal one.

MAP01 - No complaints. Very good.

MAP02 - No complaints. Very good.

MAP03 - I think there's a it too much monster HP in this map. Theres a few hard parts, but there's some not so hard parts that use too many monsters or heavy monsters in places that are not a very fun or convenient place to be killing monsters in. In general I think the traps in this map are very good, but all the monsters in rooms, corridors, and doorways would probably better with nothing at all.

MAP04 - Monster block lines might be needed in some places. I lost a chain gunner by accident in the red skullkey area. Gameplay is a bit hectic in the beginning but it gets much better towards the end.

MAP05 - I liked this one a lot. complaints here.

MAP06 - I liked this one a lot. I'm a fan of the "stop and go" sunlust style. No complaints here.

I just started MAP07 but I saw 505 monsters in the Automap and decided to take a break. I'm glad this is pretty tough but not so hard that its unfair. I know you guys like hard maps! I'm having a lot of fun with this, though. I'm posting from my phone because I'm having internet connectivity issues. When I get online I'll post my FDA demos.


EDIT
www.mediafire.com/file/ww1azw4oj37l6kj/40oz_tn_rc1_FDA01-06.zip

Overall I had a lot of fun with this, you guys did an awesome job

Hello , I'm very interested of your FDA on my map. (Map 07). It doesn't matter if the demo is very long , I will watch it entirelly.

Thanks for playing Tangerine Nightmare by the way !.

Uh oh, if these demos are not playing back, try playing them in -complevel 9, I may have recorded in the wrong settings.

I got lucky and got through a lot of this without dying much. But I understand your disinterest in the general climate of Doom wads these days. I know that I put up with a lot of bullshit gameplay in other wads that shaped my playing style. Being a good doomer is like being a good athlete. You have to keep training often to keep up with the trends, so Doom stays awesome if you play doom regularly and often, but unfortunately it's at the cost of making wads more accessible to a wider audience.

To be fair, I found this wad to be very enjoyable to someone like myself who only manages to get in a feW hours of Doom a week (over the course of many years,) but I also felt on edge pretty much the entire way through, so I had a pretty awesome experience that was perfectly tailored to my skillset. There was a topic on doomworld recently that referenced a documentary about a gamer who was born with permanent blindness, and the discussion was about enabling more accessibility options for handicapped gamers so that more people could play. Isn't a more common handicap just simply not having an above average playing ability?

I don't know if most Doomer's understand that the majority of the maps they're making seem to assume that most people playing have just beat Speed of Doom without saving, or have played Alien vendetta hundreds of times or can get through skepland without dying. This isn't always true. We're not all recluses who defeat the forces of hell 6 or more hours a day. If you are, there's no shame in doing that! I would if I could, but I chose a path in life where I thought I'd be able to do both, and it just didn't work out.

Final Doom Plutonia Experiment isn't a particularly easy set of levels. Yet with every WAD I've downloaded this year there's like a 1 in 20 chance that the wad will be of comparable difficulty. It's usually much less charitable towards the player in terms of health, ammo, and monster distribution.

I found Tangerine Nightmare to be much closer to the principle of fairness in gameplay than most stuff I played, but I do worry sometimes that my reflexes won't stay this sharp forever and I just won't be able to play Doom anymore without cheating or replaying stuff I've already conquered, and that will be a very very sad day.

Hello,
After about a month of hard work, here is the RC2 Release for Tangerine Nightmare.

I'm not gonna detail all the changes considering the fact that there are quite a lot. However, here are the notable fixes/updates:

-Modified palete /colormap
-Various fixes to maps (mostly coop and gameplay tweaks)
-tninfo.txt added
-Last lumps added (GFX, Enddoom, etc...)



Link: www.dropbox.com/s/t53ly85eweb4qc1/Tn_rc2.zip?dl=1
This version is pretty much the final release, do not hesitate to point out the last few bugs you may find so that we can be ready for the idgames release.

Enjoy !



PS: Franck gave me permission to post this of course

Oh yeah, that part will ruin so many speedruns unless there is some trick to skip it (moving floors behave "randomly", so sometimes they are simply in the wrong position when you arrive and there is nothing you can do about it other than restart the demo or wait and lose time).

Hi

Here is the final version of Tangerine Nightmare! : www.dropbox.com/s/csxjv6djl74qjzz/Tn.zip?dl=1

Thanks for your supports guys

Thank you guys for making this! I had a lot of fun playing this, and this is going to remain one of my top wad recommendations to people for a long time.

Hi

Here is the idgames link!

www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/tn

/!\ If you made some demos on the map01, this one is a bit different than the old version.