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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 9:54:06 GMT -5
Never heard of incels or mgtow abbreviature until this thread, but having now read the article on incels on Wikipedia, I feel sorry for these people. This article is far from neutral point of view - the whole content, with only few exceptions, amounts to criticism and linking the subject to criminal activity. In my opinion, a crimes committed by a few adherents are merely a reflection of the character of these specific adherents and not the ideology. I believe the genesis of terrorism to be a person's character, not an ideology they subscribe to, but a person so inclined tends to find - or form, or appropriate - some ideology as justification for their already existing inclinations. The objective study thus would have try to identify long-time adherents who never committed any crimes, but it looks like this is not happening here. Once again, the "far left" (exemplified by ADL and similar junkies in the article) reveals itself not to be really about equality, but "protection" of only select historically persecuted identities, or should we say, actual perpetual vengeance that is never satisfied and remains lusting for more.
Also, I firmly oppose the notion of "hate speech" being a crime (bringing this up because this rhetoric was used in Wikipedia article I referenced above), and of the word "hate" being used in political context. Isn't hate already tabooed because of the influence of Christianity and its siblings religions on the Western culture? I was raised as a Christian (was forced to go to a church, etc. until I was a teenager) and it fucked me badly. Repressing one's feelings can never serve a good purpose, but only makes one fucking neurotic, or at least it made me fucking neurotic. Hate shall be vented out, just not through physical violence directed at other people. And just because a few people subscribing to some ideology committed crimes (even terrorism) doesn't make that ideology automatically a terrorist one, or one worthy of moral condemnation.
And if you insist that expression of opinions on the internet shall be regulated, then I should say I learned a few tricks up my sleeve, and had you known enough you would not like where it leads. While I have proven (to myself) to be capable of "speed-surfing the shark-filled water", no one should be put in this predicatement. Trust me, I know what I'm saying, I live under repressive government and have gone well past that point when one reacts to fear normally, because there was no end to it. I have since accepted that my fate is to be tortured and imprisoned, possibly for the rest of my life, and that the only thing uncertain is the date of it, and my only preoccupation is to leave an immortal trail on this world so that I can live past my captors in death.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 10:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 10:55:52 GMT -5
@memfis, yes, that's a fun read. The cringe of the past was so much more entertaining, it almost feels lighthearted. Also there are posts by some of doomer boards members, like technician and 40oz, I wonder what do they think of them now, especially 40oz. He probably will feel ashamed. |
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Post by xeepeep on Mar 23, 2021 11:28:13 GMT -5
40oz from 10 years ago made a quality post there. But I have to present the real gem:
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Post by 40oz on Mar 23, 2021 12:09:56 GMT -5
Haha this is well-intentioned but volatile advice. I think i didn't realize the kind of people i was talking to or was riding on a lot of unearned confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 12:31:49 GMT -5
40oz, actually I feel this advice objectifies women somewhat. No surprise we rarely ever get women on doomer boards. Women do actually have sexual agency of their own - two of my colleagues got together when they were both drunk at the party and the woman approached this man and initiated the rest of action. They are married now for years. When they reflected upon their marriage, the woman jokingly said that they might not have got together if she wasn't drunk and thus approached him, cause he is too shy.
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Post by 40oz on Mar 23, 2021 15:13:39 GMT -5
@vigilantdoomer haha you are definitely correct. I totally thought doomworld was a boys club back then.
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Post by 40oz on Mar 23, 2021 15:15:41 GMT -5
Never be afraid to try anything. Hug, put your hand on her leg, rub her back, or even slide your hand across her butt. I may as well have just said 'grab her by the pussy,' right there. What was I even thinking hahaha oh god  |
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Post by Lobo on Mar 23, 2021 15:42:08 GMT -5
There's no such thing as an InCel: prostitutes are everywhere.
And the "just man-handle them" advice might have worked 15 years ago, but not in the MeToo era.
It's a brave new world out there. Till it all goes to shit again like it has over and over for the last 20 thousand years(at least).
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Post by dn on Mar 23, 2021 17:38:22 GMT -5
40oz , actually I feel this advice objectifies women somewhat. No surprise we rarely ever get women on doomer boards. You rarely ever get female sewage workers either. It's probably not because of objectification. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 21:01:43 GMT -5
dn, nice job likening doomer boards to sewage xD
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Post by lunchlunch on Mar 23, 2021 23:49:34 GMT -5
As I said, girls like to be handled. Never be afraid to try anything. Hug, put your hand on her leg, rub her back, or even slide your hand across her butt. You will usually elicit a positive response just for trying. lmao @ remembering just straight up groping girls when I was younger because I thought that was the appropriate way to make a move |
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Post by walterc on Mar 24, 2021 8:40:43 GMT -5
Not sure if you know about it already, but...
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Post by 40oz on Mar 24, 2021 11:41:01 GMT -5
dn, nice job likening doomer boards to sewage xD with some of the posts that get thrown around in here, you can almost smell the text XD lmao @ remembering just straight up groping girls when I was younger because I thought that was the appropriate way to make a move Sometimes it works! hahaha it's generally bad advice that only works situationally, but sometimes 'being bad' and breaking rules is part of the fun for both. It's ok to try, but you gotta keep it playful and accept rejection when it's not being received. |
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Post by xeepeep on Mar 31, 2021 6:22:24 GMT -5
www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120858-why-do-pwads-almost-never-have-a-story/Do you guys think that people like rdwpa actually farm likes on dw or something? I have seen this same scheme multiple times: newcomer posts question, within 2-3 replies le cool forum veteran (usually rdwpa or esselfortium) gives a short reply (sometimes consisting of one sentence) and gets an astronomical number of likes, often significantly more than any other reply in the thread. I'm starting to find that suspicious as hell. Or is it just a case of "/thread" and I should take my meds?
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Post by joe-ilya on Mar 31, 2021 6:55:43 GMT -5
Rdwpa makes a good point, many wads do have stories in them that OP missed/ignored, doesn't seem like "like farming" to me, most other replies seem more "like farming" to me, with plenty ppl just saying the same "lol story is like porn".
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Post by good-old on Mar 31, 2021 7:15:35 GMT -5
DW does have a problem of people saying the same thing again and again in a thread, but I don't consider that reply as a farming post.
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Post by sosh on Mar 31, 2021 7:41:49 GMT -5
There was a weird trend last month or two on DW where some random posters would ask questions like "Is it okay to save?" or "Is it okay to play on difficulties below UV?" and the first more or less known user to post polite version of "No one cares you insecure bitch" would get the most ++++.
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Post by 40oz on Mar 31, 2021 8:17:02 GMT -5
sosh that is such a good point! I noticed that too. On Doomworld it's like the most popular thing outside of posting doom screenshots or a new wad that clearly has some high effort into its new thread delivery is to be the first person in any topic to say some iteration of "this topic is stupid and doesn't need to exist" Talk about the "niceness" of a like system when dragging other members in public is the second most likable thing you can do. I can't support a like system here for this reason. I don't want people conforming to a 'style' of posting because of its attractiveness to likes. Everyones opinion is valuable to me and if you have something to add to a topic, you have to justify it with your words, not the value added of shitty lurkers dropping likes on shitty things.
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Post by good-old on Mar 31, 2021 9:24:17 GMT -5
I agree with 40oz's post. It also instills a belief that higher liked posts are "better" than lesser liked ones, it's just that more people have that opinion, but all posts are equal. You should decide which post you like more on your own instead of using a like system to telling you which is better.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 9:29:49 GMT -5
xeepeep, Did you mean those newcomers are alt-accounts set up to boost likes of a primary account? Nice conspiracy theory, but perhaps demands much time gathering evidence to confirm. Not a game I want to play right now... I also agree with 40oz that likes system is harmful, and is unneeded on doomer boards.
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Post by thundercunt on Mar 31, 2021 10:43:02 GMT -5
imagine unironically giving a shit about likes
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Post by 40oz on Mar 31, 2021 13:36:17 GMT -5
imagine unironically giving a shit about likes I get what you're saying, but it really doesn't matter if you don't. You're sharing a community with people who do, and will tailor their posts to get the highest score instead of just coming clean with their real authentic opinion about stuff. It effects what you read on a forum and skews people's actual opinions about stuff. And that sucks on a forum where we need blunt answers about what is good and bad about Doom so that we can make and recommend good stuff to play. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 15:04:46 GMT -5
Doom has a story, it's just told through the Environment and the Level Design. Doom Eternal could learn a thing or two about "show don't tell". The level space itself IS the story of Doom. Lighting, texturing, secret areas, interconnected spaces, combat, item placement all contribute to the overall story of a level and are all superior tools to using dumb wiki entries that interrupt the flow of the level.
In fact, interconnected areas and secret areas are ESPECIALLY important to the storytelling as they make the player feel like there is more to the area they are in and there could be anything beyond the walls, generating a bit of mystery and wonder.
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Post by lunchlunch on Apr 1, 2021 18:17:35 GMT -5
Doom has a story, it's just told through the Environment and the Level Design. Doom Eternal could learn a thing or two about "show don't tell". The level space itself IS the story of Doom. Lighting, texturing, secret areas, interconnected spaces, combat, item placement all contribute to the overall story of a level and are all superior tools to using dumb wiki entries that interrupt the flow of the level. In fact, interconnected areas and secret areas are ESPECIALLY important to the storytelling as they make the player feel like there is more to the area they are in and there could be anything beyond the walls, generating a bit of mystery and wonder. I literally skipped every cutscene in Eternal so im fortunate enough not to know how bad it is |
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