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Post by thundercunt on Apr 16, 2020 16:25:17 GMT -5
lol what a freak show. The guy think he is Tarantino so he could plagiarize other people's work and say that they are "homages"
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Apr 16, 2020 23:57:39 GMT -5
It would matter, stealing an ancient Mona Lisa painting doesn't magically make it ok just because it's old. It's not the same thing as a wad. You're comparing apples and oranges here with the wad and painting comparison. It doesn't matter in the big picture but it's not cool. If someone objects to their work being used, you're just plain an asshole if you still do it. Also for the love of god, it's never ever "should/could/would of", only "have" So it can still matter if it's 100 years after the creation of said wad that doesn't allow authors to reuse or edit them? I'm guessing forever with how the community takes this stuff seriously. I won't disagree with you still being an asshole if you do use someone's work without their permission.
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Post by joe-ilya on Apr 17, 2020 0:26:45 GMT -5
What a stupid and pointless argument, stolen content is stolen content, no matter how old it is. I'm not going to talk legal matters, because I know jack shit and so do you.
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Apr 17, 2020 11:23:11 GMT -5
What a stupid and pointless argument, stolen content is stolen content, no matter how old it is. I'm not going to talk legal matters, because I know jack shit and so do you. But you're talking about about an actual historical painting and a wad that was made for free. Your comparison is still apples and oranges in that sense. However if someone profited off of someone's work, then yeah there would be a legal issue.
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Post by joe-ilya on Apr 17, 2020 12:14:23 GMT -5
So in a future year, Epic 2 will become a historical wad. Mono Lisa was also made for free. lol
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Apr 17, 2020 12:24:46 GMT -5
I never said that the Mona Lisa painting was made for free. If you read my post it didn't say anything about the painting being made for free just the wad itself.
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Post by joe-ilya on Apr 17, 2020 13:15:40 GMT -5
I know, I said it, I wouldn't repeat anything you say.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 17, 2020 16:23:21 GMT -5
The distinction is being made about what ramifications should be made on a person that transgresses the permissions/restrictions on a creative work. Keeping in mind that the work was provided for free and that the costs of taking any legal action would certainly be a net negative for the offended party.
The question is how much does it matter to you?
It would be cool if the topic that has absolutely no bearing on one's intelligence could be free of sarcastic and condescending remarks about how stupid the person you're talking to is, but we're far past that.
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Post by an0n on May 5, 2020 10:02:17 GMT -5
Best thing I read this year.
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Post by xeepeep on May 5, 2020 12:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by dn on May 5, 2020 15:22:42 GMT -5
I love Scuba, but his MAGA = Swastika logic is faulty. See, half the world look at the above flag and feel the exact same loathing as poor Skoobs feels when he sees a maga hat. And they have done for about half a fucking century now. Raging about Trump is fucking retarded: every single president of America has been an evolution of the last one. The only difference per iteration is the individual ability to dissemble about how much further down the Raging Cunt spiral they are tripping. It is the rage of Caliban seeing his own reflection in a mirror. Or - to misquote another poet - you're finally seeing yourselves as others see you.
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Post by Justince on May 7, 2020 16:57:44 GMT -5
Lol, good christ. The only way Scuba Steve's post could be more dramatic is if he broke down and named Trump Satan, the Prince of Darkness. In fact that would probably save time and look a little more manly than spouting -isms off like some childish reactionary twitter-tween. None of those words have any meaning or weight anymore thanks to clowns like you. What a dumbass.
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Post by dmdr on May 7, 2020 23:13:27 GMT -5
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Post by xeepeep on May 8, 2020 3:41:07 GMT -5
The best part is that it's a post in WADs and Mods, not even EE. Literally a "sir this is a Wendy's" moment
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Post by payload4367 on May 8, 2020 5:46:30 GMT -5
Isn't Scuba Steve's Urban Brawl full of "isms"? Sounds like he's projecting.
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Post by 40oz on May 8, 2020 8:19:09 GMT -5
I'm not reading "maga = swastika." I'm reading "maga = donald Trump" which Scuba correctly addresses has nothing to do with a modpack for EDGE.
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Post by dn on May 8, 2020 9:40:04 GMT -5
Dude, he literally equates "Make X Great Again" with the swastika. You don't even need to read between the lines. It's there, in black & white white & blue.
Dude's trolling. Either that, or the fucking quality of discourse over there has now denigrated to the point where the "I was only pretending to be retarded" shitposts have just melted into a sea of actual retardation. Experts can't tell the difference!
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Post by 40oz on May 8, 2020 9:48:51 GMT -5
He says MAGA and swastika are similarly tainted in the sense that they dont mean now what they used to mean then.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2020 11:10:39 GMT -5
I think Nazi's patent on swastika shall be nullified, as they had no right to claim it in first place.
Also, I wonder if Trump ever answered when he considered the America was "Great" so we see where he wants it to return.
From the picture posted here (I didn't search for that thread) Scuba Steve didn't equate "MXGA" with swastika, he said this phrase will have negative connotations from now on because of who was using it as his slogan, although the phrase originally didn't have such connotations. Just like swastika didn't have negative connotations and now it does because of who used it, rather because of what it in itself is.
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Post by dmdr on May 8, 2020 20:09:40 GMT -5
people with bad cases of Trump Derangement Syndrome, like Scuba is evincing there, actually do think Trump is some kind of secret Nazi who's planning to rape Mexican babies to death though, hence why they he taints the slogan (I'm sure they'd deny America was ever great in any case). That's why it's so funny when they go on about 'democracy' while denouncing 'populism', even though populism is the essence of democracy and they themselves promote deferring to so-called 'experts' -- which is, of course, oligarchy. Matt Taibbi wrote an article recently re: free speech vs. coronavirus which has a bit about the anti-democratic slant of TDSers. Out of interest, are you Finnish Vigilant?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 1:24:47 GMT -5
Out of interest, are you Finnish Vigilant? No, I'm Russian. I mentioned it once in my introduction thread .
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Post by xeepeep on May 9, 2020 12:35:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 13:31:21 GMT -5
What kind of people were on that Discord? Did they actually enjoy working on all that crap for real? Terrywads all seem the same and incredibly stupid to me, so I wonder what motivated them to keep making that stuff for years. Does the terrywad crowd see some noticeable differences between these wads that make them interesting? Or was it always about simply annoying people by spamming repetitive garbage?
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Post by xeepeep on May 9, 2020 14:16:53 GMT -5
Memfis have you played any proper terrywad? It's not all repetitive 2-room assrape traps. I mean it kinda is, but it's got a nice story to it, and a lot of work is put into that stuff. I'd recommend that you play the B4NM.WAD that I mentioned, it's on idgames, it's a megawad for Zandronum/Skulltag. Don't be afraid to use any cheat lol. If you don't look at it as a Doom WAD but rather just take it for what it is, you might enjoy it. You seem like the kind of guy that could appreciate that sort of humour lol. My point is, don't judge terrywads by Aquarius199's videos, he reviews literal shit made for the explicit purpose of him reviewing it. Also don't worry about it breaking your computer, it's considered a bad practice at this point in the community, the idgames uploads are confirmed clean too. What kind of people were on that Discord? Did they actually enjoy working on all that crap for real? Terrywads all seem the same and incredibly stupid to me, so I wonder what motivated them to keep making that stuff for years. Eh, most of them seemed like, well, people who are on Discord, if you know what I mean. Like anime fans, basement dwellers, sometimes furryfags etc. Others were people who probably look normal IRL, have a life and friends, and you'd never suspect they had an online presence like that. There were also a few folks like myself, who never really contributed much but just hung out. They'd also use a lot of 4chan lingo (words like faggot etc). But in fact they were surprisingly welcoming and actually pretty cool. Like you could talk to them about a lot of stuff, a lot of them had gone through some shit in life and could offer some legit advice on something. But most of the time they'd just shitpost like the text that pops up in terry traps. Like "BLOODSHEDDER DESIRES TO FEAST ON SOME JUICYLICIOUS BOOTYASS! MY OH MY, WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE?? THAT BOOTYASS OF YOU'RE'S LOOKS SCRUMPTILITIOUS!! I WI'LL RAPE IT UNTIL IT CAN NO LONGER BE RAPED!!", yeah the chat looked like that. Or raid other people's servers, usually ones belonging to this guy Omegalore. I never really figured out the reason why was Omegalore always the victim, I think he was just a lolcow. Anyway I think you understand what it was like lol. As for whether they unironically enjoy working on Doom mods about assrape, I think yeah, it was a fun environment to work in, the wads were actually a pretty big undertaking. Probably not much different than why people work on normal megawads. Also I'm guessing that the reputation of being literally the villains of the community provides a fair kick lol.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 19:34:32 GMT -5
That does sounds like a lot of fun! I haven't played many Terrywads with most I've played from being duped when downloading from the archive (lol). Epic sweet Doomerfluids.
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