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Post by 40oz on Oct 26, 2024 6:41:01 GMT -5
I havent watched this yet but jesus christ is this real?
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Post by branhoal on Oct 26, 2024 8:51:01 GMT -5
It's real but no way am I sitting through a 3 hour podcast (rofl) I'll wait for a summary
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Post by joe-ilya on Oct 26, 2024 13:37:06 GMT -5
OMG! It's Donald-fucking-Trump!
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Post by hex11 on Oct 26, 2024 14:09:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2024 21:13:18 GMT -5
Watch the video and find out.
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Post by 40oz on Oct 27, 2024 7:26:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the vacuuous comments. I listened to it while reorganizing my closet. I didn't expect much but I was grateful that it wasn't a terrible listen. key points:
- The experience of being president was surreal. When he got shot in the ear, he had total comprehension and awareness of what was happening. But when he was president, it doesn't feel real.
- He didn't go into detail about what his day-to-day was like as president, but a key part of it was simply survival
- Tariffs are awesome in his opinion (better than 'love,' even.)
- Taxes can be lowered through tariffs - Local businesses can grow through tariffs - Wars can be resolved by tariffs
- There's some cool UFO shit in Area 51 but he was dodgy about explaining what it was or what's cool about it. It doesn't sound like Trump understood what was shown to him.
I was hoping he would talk more about the things I'm interested in but instead of Joe asking him, he just told Donald that the border crisis is crazy, gender transition surgeries are crazy, nuclear energy is cool and green energy is dumb, and the job of cops is too hard, which Donald simply agreed with and didn't go into detail about. I was hoping for more of the following:
- What he hates so much about central american and south american people, - Why south american people would be coming to the United States for gender transition surgeries when they already have that there. - What any of his economic plans did for the cities that he and other republicans talk so much shit about - I was hoping he would be challenged a little bit about raising police budgets instead of just appealing to the emotions of cops.
(please don't answer these questions for him, I won't read your links, I wanted to hear it from him)
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Post by qwaz on Oct 27, 2024 12:31:31 GMT -5
It's gonna be a long 4 years for you guys, 40. lol
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Post by 40oz on Oct 27, 2024 13:20:49 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident Trump will win this. I don't really care either way. I appreciate that Donald Trump wants to stop the wars even though he's not very good at it. Kamala Harris fucken sucks. The only benefit we will get from Kamala Harris winning is that the news won't be so annoying while she's in office.
I agree with Trump that she and other democrats are incompetent trash that are going to make things worse. I really don't like the way Trump elevates people with shitty values but i do respect that he at least does something. I've been long in acceptance that the United States has nothing to look forward to.
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Post by qwaz on Oct 27, 2024 13:42:11 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, when he wins and the Democrats refuse to certify it like they're planning, will you be speaking out against refusing to peacefully transfer power?
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Post by 40oz on Oct 27, 2024 14:54:05 GMT -5
qwaz, I really don't want to have another pretend argument with you. I've never denied any election results ever. I don't know who you think you're talking to.
All I made this thread for was to say I was surprised to see Donald Trump on the Joe Rogan podcast because I didn't think someone like him would do a podcast like that. That's it.
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Post by qwaz on Oct 27, 2024 15:08:27 GMT -5
I know you didn't! I'm just saying that's what's going to happen, they're already talking about refusing to certify it. But I think Trump not appearing on podcasts and stuff like that before was probably because people were afraid of being blacklisted or physically attacked for "platforming" him. Now that people are less afraid of supporting him, more people will openly do it.
I promise I wasn't trying to argue with you, just pointing out that the dems are about to do exactly what they've been accused him of doing.
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Post by AskYourDrAboutUVFast on Oct 27, 2024 16:15:24 GMT -5
I watched this. Sort of a rare piece of media these days to have a president or even a candidate sit down for ~3hrs and just talk. Kind of sad and humorous at the same time that the bar for public officials has sunk so low, that just being able to carry on a conversation and behave like a normal person for a few hours is considered 'impressive'. Oh well...My opinion is that this interview was a huge benefit for trump. Purely anecdotal, but I had a nice dinner with some friends/family last night and this interview was a subject brought up by them on a few occasions. Politics is not something we generally discuss so this interview is reaching to a pretty wide audience I think. I'm fairly ambivalent about trump personally, but for many people, he has been built into some larger than life figure who is either Golden Jesus or Orange Hitler, and I think this interview more than anything else humanizes him and shows that he is just a man. An old man at that. He does that older person thing where they don't quite finish a thought and jump to the next idea fairly frequently, reminded me a lot of my grandfather. Some things from the interview that stood out to me: - The talk about his first day in office was very genuine I thought, especially the long ramble about the Lincoln bedroom. Hes obviously wealthy and has probably experienced pretty opulent luxury in his life, but the talk about the history of the bedroom made it seem a bit like he was humbled by the magnitude of it. The short recitation of the history of the Lincoln family was interesting as well, not the type of thing I would have expected from him. - The admission about making a mistake hiring certain people. I thought the talk about John Bolton was entertaining, including the fact that he was useful for scaring other countries. - The talk about removing the income tax. Obviously very unlikely to happen, but holy shit at least somebody is saying it. At this point, fuck it, I'd give it a try for a few years. If we hate not paying taxes or the country starts falling apart, we could always put it back later :] - RFK being involved in the administration and his limitations. At the recent Al Smith dinner, trump mentioned letting RFK go wild for a bit and then pulling him back. I think he clarified in this interview that he doesn't agree with RFK's position on oil and drilling and doesn't want him to be involved in that particular area. - JFK files stuff. Hard to get a real bead on what was going on here, but saying that there are still people alive who were involved and that the release of the documents would be 'cleansing' for the country, makes me interpret it like there is something embarrassing or damning in there. It kind of got lost in the shuffle but he mentioned 'MLK' also. - Aliens. I don't really care a lot about this subject personally, but it is definitely one of the questions I would ask a president if I had a chance. I will never forgive joe for interrupting trump when he starts talking about this. Joe SHUT THE FUCK UP and listen to the guy who had Q-clearance you bald headed muscle-dummy. Overall an interesting listen. This should definitely become the norm for future candidates. At least one long form interview of several hours. Would like to see Harris do this as well.
edit: also there were times during this interview where I would glance over when trump was talking and literally see shane gillis lmao.
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Post by qwaz on Oct 27, 2024 16:21:35 GMT -5
Meanwhile, over at the Authentic Self party... Mountain Dew and game streams on Twitch! Right gamer bros?!?
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Post by Bob Page on Oct 27, 2024 16:24:30 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident Trump will win this. Just curious, what makes you think that? To me it seems like a tight race. But then again I have nothing to actually back that up other than general feeling, which isn't really even anecdotal.
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Post by 40oz on Oct 28, 2024 10:03:53 GMT -5
I know you didn't! I'm just saying that's what's going to happen, they're already talking about refusing to certify it. But I think Trump not appearing on podcasts and stuff like that before was probably because people were afraid of being blacklisted or physically attacked for "platforming" him. Now that people are less afraid of supporting him, more people will openly do it. I promise I wasn't trying to argue with you, just pointing out that the dems are about to do exactly what they've been accused him of doing. Sorry I misread the double negative in your earlier post. I thought you were asking if I was going to refuse to accept donald trump as president when/if he wins. Hillary said it was rigged when Donald won, Donald said it was rigged when Biden won, etc. etc. It just sounds like sore losers whining to me. Nothing ever comes of it. I don't really have an opinion about it one way or another. It's just talk.
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Post by hex11 on Oct 28, 2024 10:21:41 GMT -5
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Post by 40oz on Oct 28, 2024 10:28:13 GMT -5
I'm fairly confident Trump will win this. Just curious, what makes you think that? To me it seems like a tight race. But then again I have nothing to actually back that up other than general feeling, which isn't really even anecdotal. My anecdote is I don't really know many people who think highly of Kamala Harris. She's already been Vice President for the last four years and none of the problems people had with Trump ('s policies, not his decorum as a person with a leadership position) has really improved in any way. Harris speaks pretty much entirely in platitudes. With that in mind, I don't think people are as threatened by Donald Trump becoming president as they were the first time considering he has already been president previously. Yeah the pandemic sucked, the riots sucked, the capitol hill thing sucked, and all the shootings sucked but I seriously don't think anyone truly believes Biden or Harris would have handled it a better way. Donald Trump goes into a little more detail about the news' depiction of polls in the interview above, and I think he's correct. The news strongly favors democrats and democrats have huge budgets for their campaign, which I think serves as an illusion that they are successful. It's actually favorable for both candidates to get as many people to vote as possible, so the polls will misrepresent numbers to make the election feel like it is very close every election just so people will go out and vote. If the news indicates either side is winning by any sizeable margin, people won't vote. They either already know their candidate is winning or they think their vote is too insignificant to pull their candidate over the finish line. At one point in the interview (I don't remember the timestamp, sorry) Donald said the news was saying that Hillary already had Wisconsin, but when the results came out, he won in Wisconsin by a landslide. Joe Rogan adds (which is one thing I agree with Joe on) is that Joe Rogan has never been surveyed to answer who he's voting for. I've never been surveyed to ask who I'm voting for either. So where are these numbers coming from? For four years I worked professionally in programming digital surveys, and in my experience there I learned that it's pretty much impossible to collect survey responses for free. Nobody wants to answer and submit questions to a database unless you pay them. So whatever this data is, if it's even real data at all, must be skewed in some way because of a financial incentive to collect it. I have my own problems with Donald Trump. I can't make sense out of why he thinks immigrants are so dangerous/expensive and tighter borders are safer for everyone. I can't figure out the logic behind it. I'm in a long distance relationship, so stricter borders actually affects my life in a direct way. My partner is indigenous central american and we go out to get ice cream together, old white women give her a snide glare like she doesn't belong here. I live in a racially mixed area with a lot of hispanic people. They've built a lot of businesses in my otherwise decaying neighborhood and the old white republicans with Trump signs on their lawns are mostly retired shut-ins who are bitter about taxes, inflation, and pronouns. They feel empowered by Donald's fiery and cynical speeches. In debates, Donald Trump is always saying the cities are cesspools, the immigrants are coming in droves to traffic our women and children and burn our neighborhoods down with guns and drugs and crime, then abuse our government programs. There's no way this is true. There's hardly any beneficial government programs most people are entitled to anyway. It was cool to see in this interview that he can just be a normal person and has some ideas to do some cool things. But in his pursuit, his public persona is dividing my local community, (and my internet communities) into hating people that don't deserve it, and no amount of calmly talking to them changes their minds.
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Post by Bob Page on Oct 28, 2024 12:32:15 GMT -5
I'm in a long distance relationship, so stricter borders actually affects my life in a direct way. My partner is indigenous central american and we go out to get ice cream together, old white women give her a snide glare like she doesn't belong here. I live in a racially mixed area with a lot of hispanic people. They've built a lot of businesses in my otherwise decaying neighborhood and the old white republicans with Trump signs on their lawns are mostly retired shut-ins who are bitter about taxes, inflation, and pronouns. They feel empowered by Donald's fiery and cynical speeches. Do you get those snide glares in the PA area? I know that PA is a big state, but I always assumed that it and the rest of the East Coast was pretty progressive in that department, especially these days. I go up to Northern Virginia pretty regularly to visit with Hispanic women that I have dates with, and no one seems to care. Whites could care less, and Hispanics don't seem to mind either. But it's a fair point that different parts of the country can vary widely in the way they deal with stuff like that.
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Post by dr_st on Oct 29, 2024 6:33:01 GMT -5
Just curious, what makes you think that? To me it seems like a tight race. Possibly also on the very fact that the race according to most pollsters is tight. Most polls historically had huge bias towards Dems, so if it looks tight, and if they hadn't adjusted the biases, it probably means that the Reps are quite a bit ahead. This is, of course, just an assumption. We cannot know (and even the pollsters themselves won't know until after the fact) whether they are more accurate now than they've historically been. So I prefer to be cautious in my prediction as well. I have my own problems with Donald Trump. I can't make sense out of why he thinks immigrants are so dangerous/expensive and tighter borders are safer for everyone. I can't figure out the logic behind it. The thinking behind this is that if you allow for uncontrolled immigration of whoever wants to come in with no or minimal screening - you will, in general, not get an influx of good law-abiding citizens willing to work and fit in, but mostly misfits that are looking for quick and easy ways for themselves, and this typically does not spell anything good for the people already there. That's just a claim. Whether you find it convincing or not is another story.
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Post by deathevokation on Oct 29, 2024 7:28:07 GMT -5
- What he hates so much about central american and south american people, Because it's the Joe Rogan experience, not the daily show with Jon Steward or Trevor Noah.. maybe he wanted to get a more unique more human interview with Donald Trump instead of token hardball zeitgeist strawman ambush interview number 3295052 with one of the most side steppable questions ever, also Joe Rogan isn't quick witted, his mind is slow from drugs and would come out second best, Joe Rogan has stated before that he has an aversion to this interview style because of the previous guy he worked with who kept trying to smear him on air.
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Post by 40oz on Oct 29, 2024 9:01:35 GMT -5
Because it's the Joe Rogan experience, not the daily show with Jon Steward or Trevor Noah.. maybe he wanted to get a more unique more human interview with Donald Trump instead of token hardball zeitgeist strawman ambush interview number 3295052 with one of the most side steppable questions ever, also Joe Rogan isn't quick witted, his mind is slow from drugs and would come out second best, Joe Rogan has stated before that he has an aversion to this interview style because of the previous guy he worked with who kept trying to smear him on air. I don't understand your response at all. I would like the question asked in a very human way. He's honest about most things but the lack of transparency about this is really jarring. What did the Central and South americans actually do to Trump? What is the origin story for this? Consider the amount of money we put into police spending and military weapons with almost nothing into social programs and infrastructure within our borders. There's no way that any of the people causing problems locally for US citizens can be neatly categorized into one specific race of people. It's completely full of shit and concerned (scared) white people in my local communities buy it unquestionably.
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Post by joe-ilya on Oct 29, 2024 9:40:30 GMT -5
This video is somewhat relevant
TL;DW : A lot of what's shown on the news, on TV, and on political campaigns is done for emotional manipulation, and it succeeds. All the threats that Trump touts are just that, all the way from his slogan to his hate of immigration.
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Post by 40oz on Oct 29, 2024 9:49:52 GMT -5
The thinking behind this is that if you allow for uncontrolled immigration of whoever wants to come in with no or minimal screening - you will, in general, not get an influx of good law-abiding citizens willing to work and fit in, but mostly misfits that are looking for quick and easy ways for themselves, and this typically does not spell anything good for the people already there. That's just a claim. Whether you find it convincing or not is another story. I get the general belief. But the fact remains that democrat party presidents such as Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have been very tough on borders as well. Maybe even more so than Trump. I don't understand what service it is doing for the country to deflect the source of the issues towards other people when it's not accurate. Our overflowing prison population is almost entirely naturally born US Citizens. My nearest city has tons of US citizens selling drugs as a sidehustle. The United States has pretty much given up entirely on helping it's own people and has deferred everything to private businesses who only have profit incentives that drive their actions. Historically, past presidents such as FDR would enact social programs like The New Deal which opened social security, food and welfare programs, and built road infrastructure, and resisted unfair labor practices. Theodore Roosevelt was instrumental for national public parks. These president's programs have carried a pretty long legacy which allowed our major roadways and national parks to come to fruition, but nothing like that has ever happened again in over 60 years. Nowadays the simplest suggestions create so much manufactured conflicting points that nothing ever gets done, and when unresolved issues exacerbate, Donald Trump points loudly and publicly at immigrants every time and idiots shout "hell yeah"
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Post by voisynelvet on Oct 29, 2024 10:36:58 GMT -5
I'll first say that I actually appreciate 40oz's counterbalancing to what would otherwise be a right-wing sausage-fest. And there's a billion things I want to slap 40 over, don't get me started, but I respect a lot of what he does.
So hey 40, not to dog-pile on you and this is kinda out of left field, but I gotta say: You kinda fit the psych profile of someone who does/did participate in mass mail-in ballot fraud. The "rules don't actually exist if you really think about it" type.
I know some weird people, and 40 you kinda look like those weird people (lots of them don't have lost their steam since 2020). Just sayin. But yeh. I gotta off-load this off my chest.
Hope you stay chill, 40. Also hope the others in this thread stay chill. Not TOO chill cuz we're going into temperature chill cold season where it's tough to even touch grass, but yeh...
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Post by hex11 on Oct 29, 2024 11:19:23 GMT -5
There is a very big difference between the type of immigration that has happened organically throughout history, and what's going on in the past decade. The later is bankrolled by Soros and his globalist pals who don't give a shit about anyone except maybe their own peers (many of whom are part of the US and EU government). Well to be more precise, it's all being funded by the banking cartel, via their usurious fiat currencies. Same with all the wars going on around the globe since 1913. In the past they would have been very limited because money was real, and you can't just print unlimited quantities of silver and gold. You can of course debase the coinage (as the romans did, which led to the collapse of their empire) but this is a slower-moving process and much more visible than the creation of billions/trillions more digits in a banking computer system.
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