🌟New Doom 1+2 map format "id24" causes a stir

I'm curious about everyone's predictions.

Will the drama dissipate and all the major ports (gzdoom, dsda, retro, woof) add id24 support?

Or will there be a splintering (example, gzdoom/retro supporting vs. dsda/woof not supporting)?

Or do you think it will be roundly rejected altogether?

Here's my metaphor.

Suppose you start a lemonade stand where you're simply giving people lemonade for free. Everyone loves lemonade and people appreciate you for it. The rich kid down the street who was given thousands of dollars by mom and dad to start up his own lemonade stand opens another lemonade stand down the street. The rich kid can have better tools/equipment to make lemonade faster, infuse new flavors, use higher quality ingredients, and hire employees to enhance the customer experience. While selling the lemonade for $1, this still isn't as good of a deal as getting lemonade for free.

But eventually, making lemonade for this much demand means some of your lemonade stand's lemons are kinda bruised, you don't have enough cups, you can't provide ice anymore, etc. At a certain point, lemonade for a dollar stops seeming like such a bad idea. If you can get a new flavor, made faster, made with high quality ingredients, with ice and new cups, that's probably a better deal than getting trash lemonade you can get for free.

My prediction is that Bethesda has potential to win this by a landslide. They have an enormous leg up on the Doom community in the sense that they can utilize their multiple profit channels to outlast us. I don't have a single doubt about that. All Bethesda has to do is make mapping for Doom not fun anymore. And they will then exhibit full control of the doom modding scene by supporting chosen community members financially, something the Doom community will never be able to compete with. My fear is the doom community is not nearly united enough to resist this.

Even if source port developers opt out of supporting id24, the surrounding doom community will still advance toward it without them, driving them into obscurity. Eventually leading to a buggy source port that doesn't work, better alternatives pop up, and eventually the developers will get frustrated and leave and someone else who supports id24 will take their place.

The result is the community will be very confused about what they are really doing this all for. How do we get our maps seen if half of doom fans are being exposed to the KEX port only due to new consoles and excessive marketing? Who are the real doom fans? If the community is halved, that means mappers and source port developers have to pick a side. One of those sides gives Bethesda more money and control of how things are done (including the ability to shut it all down), and the other side is likely to be too underpowered and unmotivated to produce new things of value.

The only thing we can do about this is to use our voices to sway public opinion. Bethesda wants to kill off what we have because they can't profit off of it. We're going to lose this if we continue to accept Bethesda as an ally of the Doom community.

As for confirmations, only Odamex and Eternity developers confirmed they will support it, these developers are also Nightdive employees. In a way Odamex has always been an "official" port because it has been used in deathmatch events promoted by id.
Now, K8Vavoom, EDGE-Classic, DSDA and Woof are not going to support it, and GZDoom is very unlikely, it isn't a good indicator for the ID24 standard.

Lobo confirmed he's not going to implement it in EDGE-Classic, Kraflab created an alt-account on DW called DSDA-dev just to talk shit about the new standard in a very offensive and personal way. Graf Zahl is on a long vacation, maybe even retired and the other GZDoom devs don't seem to be excited about it. The developer of Woof seemingly liked some of the DSDA-dev's post.

I did? Pretty sure I have not explicitly said this.

Slightly related, Graf Zahl also "liked" dsda-devs DW post.

They don't have as much power to pressure others as you think, if anything happens, they will realocate to DB. Which is less popular but better than nothing.

Huh, OK then. Maybe they are limiting who is invited. It seems counterproductive to me, but so does many things about how this was done. But I really would be shocked if there's no id24 adoption campaign going on whatsoever.

I largely have been inactive for a while here so I'll throw in my two cents: I'm indifferent to the enhanced port myself. I think the new wad Legacy of Rust that has been shipped with this port is cool and all, but hasn't necessarily swayed me from ditching my fav sourceport, Woof, in favor of playing the corpo doom port. Bethesda will have to be really retarded, however, to even attempt to do anything that harms the modding scene. Whether it be throwing C&D towards all existing mods, like how good ol Nintendo is known for, or try to find a roundabout way to try to monetize them. It's better in their interests to just let people be while doing their own thing.