good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 13, 2024 11:53:10 GMT -5
40oz Thank you. Is it possible to move the rest of the posts too without bringing the other posts in between them? Also, nice title. Edit: nevermind, you did move them before I made this post.
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VICE
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Post by VICE on Jul 13, 2024 11:56:36 GMT -5
I started this convo off earnestly enough, and I was talking about the dynamics of the activity without passing judgement and without saying anything about you personally. I don't care about you personally.
You decided to turn this into something personal and declared yourself to be on some kind of moral high-ground based on absolutely nothing but your childish, wanker, perpetually self-affirming expectations. That is not the type of argument I'm going to invest my time in. You have no life experience to back up anything you're saying.
I have no obligation to continue arguing in good faith now, so I'm going to take the piss like I should have from the start.
You can believe anything you want about me, snowflakes. You were going to anyway.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 13, 2024 11:56:38 GMT -5
no problem
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 13, 2024 12:01:21 GMT -5
This thread is pozzed.
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VICE
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Post by VICE on Jul 13, 2024 12:10:58 GMT -5
Very clever title 40, but this thread only has 1 post of advice from me, and It's not the first one.
Ya'll faggots care more about identity politics and comfort than actual truth.
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CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 13, 2024 12:13:57 GMT -5
Bro, you're trying to look cool on a DOOM FORUM. That's gay.
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 13, 2024 12:18:35 GMT -5
I started this convo off earnestly enough, and I was talking about the dynamics of the activity without passing judgement and without saying anything about you personally. I don't care about you personally. What's this one about then? Got anything meaningful to lose? And what about the fact that you were giving me advice, as if not desiring romantic relationships makes me lesser of a person? That was personal. And I dunno what moral ground you are talking about. You have no life experience to back up anything you're saying. My experience is that I've rarely ever been lonely since I was age 12 or so. When you actually start thinking for yourself and stuff. 2/3 years before I started masturbating. I haven't been happy for a long time before 2023, and that was because of other real life issues, not loneliness. Now that those problems are solved I am as happy as you can be despite living in a 3rd world shithole. The fact that I have never been romantically lonely while so many other teenagers are. The fact that you say I have no experience is yet another absolutely boomer thing to say. Teenagers have no problems at all, they don't struggle at all. And even then, it doesn't excuse you being unable to counterargue my points. In case you're talking about experience of the dating scene, I dunno man, I think I obviously have more zoomer friends than you because we're the same generation, you know? And they tell me about their loneliness? Or if you don't wanna believe me, quick searches on reddit should tell you enough too.
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VICE
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Post by VICE on Jul 13, 2024 12:19:27 GMT -5
Anything I said about myself was in response to a false claim about me.
I don't care how you percieve ms, and I didn't set off to talk about myself, but on the subject matter of the first post.
I don't talk about myself unless someone makes some kind of wild guess about me and proceeds to talk to me like their guess is true. People on this forum are all about that apparantly.
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 13, 2024 12:22:57 GMT -5
Anything I said about myself was in response to a false claim about me You made lots of false claims about me too, mate.
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VICE
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Post by VICE on Jul 13, 2024 12:28:05 GMT -5
What's this one about then? That is not adVICE, that's a rhetoric deVICE. But that post is the one I mentioned, yes. At no point did I state anything about you being less of a person, and saw no need to address it. This is entirely your inferment. Ask yourself where that idea came from, not me. If I thought you were less of a person, I would not be talking to you in the first place, FYI.
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Post by VICE on Jul 13, 2024 12:29:38 GMT -5
Anything I said about myself was in response to a false claim about me You made lots of false claims about me too, mate. Which ones and at what point of the conversation? There was no bad faith until you started making claims about me.
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 13, 2024 13:37:51 GMT -5
That is not adVICE, that's a rhetoric deVICE. My point was that it was an insult. The rhetoric was that there is no meaning in my life. At no point did I state anything about you being less of a person, and saw no need to address it. Then what was that advice about? Why would you give me that advice if I didn't need to change? Perhaps I exaggerated that you considered me less of a person, but you did consider it a flaw and saw the need to "correct" it, hence the advice. You can't start giving unsolicited advice to a homosexual person about how to become heterosexual and say that you're not insulting them. Oh and about the claims, since I'm the one who started the claims apparently, you should start.
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Post by VICE on Jul 13, 2024 16:27:33 GMT -5
The rhetoric was that there is no meaning in my life. The rhetoric was open-ended Hypophora in Kairos (a call to action is implied). The edgy value judgement about your life is your own inferment, again. This might have been better understood if I stated outright: Even if you don't think I'm correct, what you stand to lose if you tried is: Temporary access to a habit that you enjoy, but does not appear to play a central role in your life. What you possibly stand to gain is: Permanent access to a new (for you) dimension of the human experience. So trying it could be a worthy endeavour, even if you don't think I'm correct, if only on the off-chance that I am correct. It is logically adivsable to try in such a case. The reason I didn't state this outright is that I don't like conclusions handed to me, and I assume others don't either. I invited you to think about it, and instead of thinking, you percieved it as a personal insult. Read this again, carefuly: What is so 'meaningful' that was implied only to be so abruptly backhanded the way it incomprehensibly had? What they meant by this, unironically? This guy seems to have figured it out, at least partially. He is also using open-ended Hypophora as a rhetoric here. As implied, my question was not an ironic one. Reminds me of that "Anything you say can be interpreted as the worst possible message..." thing that was discussed in the original thread. Why would you give me that advice if I didn't need to change? Perhaps... you did consider it a flaw and saw the need to "correct" it, hence the advice. I said this earlier: You obviously have a sexual component in your psyche since you watch porn and (I assume) find the female form attractive, otherwise you'd just be relieving yourself mechanically for maintenance without the aid of porno. You didn't correct me on this, was I wrong here? I don't think you need to change, I think you should try what I'm saying on the off chance that it ends up improving your life. Don't start with this "My life is already good tyvm" line again, this is a different type of good that would be further added to the good you already have. This is akin to discovering a new dish that you enjoy (it's literally pussy in this case ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ). You can't start giving unsolicited advice to a homosexual person about how to become heterosexual and say that you're not insulting them. If I had information about it and they stated or implied that they're attracted to women in some capacity despite their homosexuality, I might share an actionable item they can try. Would it be percieved as a personal attack? Maybe. If they "interpret it in the worst possible way" and add their own emotional baggage to my statements. This isn't DW. I thought the point of this forum is that we don't have to walk on eggshells. Oh and about the claims, since I'm the one who started the claims apparently, you should start. You were quick about it: Says the person who can't fathom living a happy life alone. My next post after that was still mellow, but I rightfuly started taking you less seriously. My next few posts were gradually less mellow, but still said nothing directly negative of your character. I first started talking shit back at you in this post: And you seem to be talking as if you are a special snowflake... After I ran out of patience for your victimized interpretive reading, and your assumptions about me.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 13, 2024 17:35:45 GMT -5
Ya'll care more about identity politics and comfort than actual truth. Not at all, I pulled it out of the thread it was obfuscated in and dedicated an entirely new thread to it. Please go on.
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 13, 2024 19:36:34 GMT -5
To all comments about "Got anything meaningful to lose?": I dunno man, that sentence doesn't sound like most people would take non-offensively. It kinda has the same energy as "your life sucks anyway, why not try this to improve your life, what can you lose?". Though yeah, I see what you could have meant now, finally understood what Kuramori was trying to say too. I did misinterpret it, but I think it's understandable for me to do so, especially considering that the rest of the post was about trying to change something about me. Goddamn, a lot of this never would have happened if I interpreted it for what it is. I apologise. This might have been better understood if I stated outright: Even if you don't think I'm correct, what you stand to lose if you tried is: Temporary access to a habit that you enjoy, but does not appear to play a central role in your life. What you possibly stand to gain is: Permanent access to a new (for you) dimension of the human experience. So trying it could be a worthy endeavour, even if you don't think I'm correct, if only on the off-chance that I am correct. It is logically adivsable to try in such a case You did not take into consideration all the potential, and some guaranteed negatives, something which I mentioned in point 4 of my first post. All those points may make it an unworthy endeavor for people like me. It definitely does for me. It was confrontational, but again, it was because I misinterpreted you about that rhetoric. You didn't correct me on this, was I wrong here? I don't think you need to change, I think you should try what I'm saying on the off chance that it ends up improving your life. Don't start with this "My life is already good tyvm" line again, this is a different type of good that would be further added to the good you already have. This is akin to discovering a new dish that you enjoy (it's literally pussy in this case ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ). Yeah, you weren't wrong, though like I said I did explain in my first post why this wouldn't necessarily have made my life better. If I had information about it and they stated or implied that they're attracted to women in some capacity despite their homosexuality, I might share an actionable item they can try. Would it be percieved as a personal attack? Maybe. If they "interpret it in the worst possible way" and add their own emotional baggage to my statements. This isn't DW. I thought the point of this forum is that we don't have to walk on eggshells. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that unsolicited advice about changing yourself doesn't take a whole lot of misinterpretation to sound offensive. This specific example is less offensive because becoming heterosexual won't just remove their homosexuality so it's not exactly a change, but the point stands. Again, because I misinterpreted you. Sorry.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jul 13, 2024 21:31:34 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. You two are still going at it?
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 14, 2024 2:26:22 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. You two are still going at it? Maybe if you read the conversation, you would know what's going on.
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Post by Lobo on Jul 18, 2024 12:39:36 GMT -5
Red Pill vs. Black Pill.
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Post by thundercunt on Jul 18, 2024 15:10:51 GMT -5
We are in 2024 and people still unironically believe that nofap will make girls magically attracted to you
EDIT" 666th post. My title should be "Evil Member"
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jul 19, 2024 0:23:07 GMT -5
I sure just typed all that only to get called blackpilled.
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