CittyKat112
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jun 9, 2024 9:18:19 GMT -5
Going to the gym to be fit and strong is based, but boxing or martial arts is better. Also professional bodybuilding is cringe.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 9, 2024 9:59:52 GMT -5
I've been through some trauma myself and think being in good shape has probably helped me more than anything else. I've found myself in my best mental state when I've been my most fit at least. If that study is accurate I assume it's just how we're wired and there are always outliers. I'm also willing to bet that it was only regarding men. Personally I don't exercise anymore because I'm constantly lifting and handling heavy things, doing things that are pretty good cardio etc. It's an everyday part of my life. Back when I was doing more office oriented work I was though. I would be lying if I said vanity wasn't part of it back then since I was a younger man but now I could care less what others think and just look at it pragmatically. It's just been a reality for me that I need to be physically capable for the sake of those around me. My body right now feels like I've been run over by a truck but I still know I could drag someone out of danger or do what I need to in a fight. I don't know if it's that knowledge or it's purely chemical how my mental state is effected. Maybe both.
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VICE
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Post by VICE on Jun 9, 2024 13:41:58 GMT -5
lifting weights only get you so far. Theres things people are legitimately depressed about (i.e. being a victim of child abuse, sexual assault, or actually being physically disabled are big ones) Not denying the mental benefits of having physical strength and endurance, its definitely a lot better than not working towards it. But being able to lift heavier weights and more reps is cool up until you start to realize it doesnt have a lot of real world application. Unless you want your friends to ask you to help move furniture, working at a regular office job and making doom maps means im almost never in a position of needing to move heavy things. It also kinda sucks when you have body image issues like i do. I have an ectomorphic body type so when I started working out, i was a little discouraged from the amount of calories i need to consume in order to have any noticeabke physical change. I still cant believe the amount of abdominal exercises and dehydration i have to do to make my core look like anything at all. Fuck it. I still workout anyway but it feels like annoying maintenance sometimes. Also if you keep up with a usual regimen dont you just feel sore half the time? Whenever i take breaks from working out for a few weeks, i know the quantity of pounds i can lift starts to decrease, but i actually 'feel' stronger during these periods when im not winded and sore all the time. 1. The things you mentioned are legit bad, but lifting will still improve life quality and satisfaction for those cases better than antidepressants will, is my point. And the other factors I mentioned will compound ( no pun intended ) on that. Look at this dude: He does a clean and press with only one arm. Without knowing who he is, I can guarantee that if he was sitting on his ass feeling sorry for himself his life and his general outlook would be much worse. 2. Not a lot of real world application? First of all, grip strength is the no.1 marker for longevity with actual correlation (i.e, improve grip strength and you can expect an increase in your lifespan), second, having harder muscles and denser bones protects you from all forms of injury (chronic conditions aside, accumulating injuries is what lowers quality of life for most older people and in many cases is what offs them). All exercise regulates hormones, improves cardiovascular health and promotes neurogenesis. That is beside the psychological benefits like stress reduction, better willpower and work ethic (mogger traits). 3. Body image issues are easily solved by getting attention from the shawties. Also, when you have a strong, functional body and put it to regular use, you won't feel like you really care what you look like. This is one of the reasons I have only worked field jobs or at most onsite jobs that have some physical components. If you work in an office you need to figure out a way to move more. Get a resistance band or something, do random pushups and pullups, it will definitely help. And try to get as much fresh air as you can. 4. Sounds like you could be burned out of your routine. Do you switch it up every few months? I feel hella sore after working out, doing heavier lifts sometimes even temporarily affects my posture. I find that proper stretching and yoga (and I'm talking about putting in 30+ minutes of quality work a day into it, tensing in the stretch position and developing actual individual muscle control like "Bronze-Age" bodybuilders did) - that will clear out any soreness or posture shifts by the next day, sometimes within just a few hours. And I feel stronger for several days after each heavy workout. A lot of lifters get stuck in tonic postures that fuck them up later because lifting for 1-2 hours a day constitues the entirety of their physical activity. Most gymbros would recommend against so much stretching, but then again most gymbros know jack shit and only care about Sarcoplasmic Hypertrophy, and their functionality is only slightly better than that of an untrained person. Don't forget to read all that in the voice of the cookie monster btw.
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Kontra
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Post by Kontra on Jun 9, 2024 14:38:32 GMT -5
lifting weights only get you so far. Theres things people are legitimately depressed about (i.e. being a victim of child abuse, sexual assault, or actually being physically disabled are big ones) Not denying the mental benefits of having physical strength and endurance, its definitely a lot better than not working towards it. But being able to lift heavier weights and more reps is cool up until you start to realize it doesnt have a lot of real world application. Unless you want your friends to ask you to help move furniture, working at a regular office job and making doom maps means im almost never in a position of needing to move heavy things. It also kinda sucks when you have body image issues like i do. I have an ectomorphic body type so when I started working out, i was a little discouraged from the amount of calories i need to consume in order to have any noticeabke physical change. I still cant believe the amount of abdominal exercises and dehydration i have to do to make my core look like anything at all. Fuck it. I still workout anyway but it feels like annoying maintenance sometimes. Also if you keep up with a usual regimen dont you just feel sore half the time? Whenever i take breaks from working out for a few weeks, i know the quantity of pounds i can lift starts to decrease, but i actually 'feel' stronger during these periods when im not winded and sore all the time. I was very skinny up until my 20s (so I know where you're coming from), I filled out, then got kind of fat after 35. At worst I was 230, now I am around 200 but want to go down to like 185. That would be ideal for my height. Honestly, going to a place like Sam's club and picking up a protein powder for a great price is how I can compensate for all the eating and protein consumption I have to do to grow mass after working out. At first it seems like a pain in the ass, but after a while I feel like this is the only path forward in life that makes sense for me. But another important thing is fiber, I use a plant based protein powder because the regular one doesn't digest well for me, and it has a good amount of fiber. Plus I throw a pear in there, for extra fiber. I intermittent fast in the morning, then have lunch, dinner, and then the shake after working out. So basically I fast for about 14 hours, from sleeping through the night, getting up, into the next day to noon/2 pm when I have lunch. I have successfully undergone a body recomposition by losing body fat percentage, and gaining muscle mass, while losing weight at the same time. Actually it has a lot of real world application, because having muscle vs fat, will make you live a healthier life, and in turn have a healthier mindset. You can combat sickness better with more muscle mass, I'm not talking about being a body builder with 60% muscle mass, but 37-45% is really good. In fact it is ideal for MMA fighters. You have the power and energy to do more in your life, even non-physical activities, such as just facilitating your everyday life, and not feeling so beaten down that you can't go the extra mile to achieve more. I'm talking about hobbies, and seeking professional opportunities. Even if that if you put that aside, there is absolutely nothing good that came come from being out of shape and unhealthy, unfit. In fact it is only going to add to your everyday problems. I was reading about people on Death row that still maintain a workout routine, because it helps them cope with the stress of the situation, and feel like they at least have control of something. That's people who are slated to be executed by society, which frankly would trump a lot of other people's depressive issues. If you're handicap than you have no choice really but to try other alternatives. But the vast majority of the depressed people out there, the people taking antidepressants are physically normal.
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Kontra
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by Kontra on Jun 9, 2024 14:45:10 GMT -5
Besides, it is cool to be skinny and cut too, much better than being a fat lump of shit. To me that's being body positive, making the best out of what you have. Think of all the feather weight boxers that can fuck people up who are twice their size.
To me, being Obese is non-negotiable, it is just plain unhealthy. I don't give a fuck how many fat power supremacists say otherwise. If you're fat, than you have to lose that shit, it is not impossible. I used look like Dr. Zoidberg without a shell for a hot minute.
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Kontra
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by Kontra on Jun 9, 2024 15:06:40 GMT -5
Besides, i disagree that it doesn't have real world applications.
You get respect for being physically imposing, in a face to face interaction. If you are weak, people feel like they can talk to you any way they want. But if you are imposing, you make them fucking think twice about what they are going to say. This is mostly when talking to men obviously.
But that brings me to another thing. From being married, and dealing with everyday situations, like plumbers, workers, and people like that, when ever my wife speaks to them, they pretty much don't take her seriously. But when I am involved, or make the call I get far different results. This is something I have not been aware of in my life, but a lot of blue collar working men really don't take women seriously. But if you are a man, and a physically fit one at that, these motherfuckers are going to be more likely to listen. You have to deal with all walks of life, because not everyone is going to be professional, reasonable, and fair. You can't be bogged down by these jerk-offs not doing what they're supposed to, I've had to get in people's faces, like this scumbag gardener that the neighbors hired that kept taking his equipment over our drive way. He flat out told my wife he wasn't going to stop, then I came out, and made him comply by basically barking in his face.
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Kontra
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by Kontra on Jun 9, 2024 15:13:09 GMT -5
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