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Post by Kontra on Feb 26, 2024 10:30:55 GMT -5
www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db377.htm#:~:text=Key%20findings,-Data%20from%20the&text=During%202015%E2%80%932018%2C%2013.2%25,60%20and%20over%20(24.3%25). I wasn't depressive, but I think I definitely had a screw loose growing up. But instead of seeing a psychiatrist or taking meds, I decided that smoking weed, getting laid, and playing in metal bands was much better for my mental health. Today, I'm a normal man living in the suburbs ![(dealwithit)](//storage.proboards.com/6313256/images/fTnnKrEHlnZmKFbSMzQz.png)
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Post by Kontra on Feb 26, 2024 11:00:05 GMT -5
In all seriousness, I sincerely hope there isn't a over prescription going on.
Opioid crisis comes to mind.
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 26, 2024 22:21:41 GMT -5
I think it's way worse now. Saw an article that something like 75% of college students are getting prescriptions just through their college doctor and it's not counting those getting them outside of the college. I vaguely remember a percentage like that. Of course they've been messing up grade school students and those percentages are probably much worse now.
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Post by Kontra on Feb 27, 2024 9:39:41 GMT -5
I think young people:
A) take what they hear too seriously.
B) Are too inexperienced to know better.
I think some of it also has to do with "woe is me..." narcissism
While I don't deny some people legitimately have chemical imbalances, etc. I believe most people need to just work through their problem.
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Post by Kontra on Feb 27, 2024 9:42:38 GMT -5
A lot of it also has to do with poor physical health. Maybe if people weren't stuffing their faces with fatty food, and turning into humanoid-pigs, playing video games, and sweating soda, they would have better mental health.
Fitness is key to happiness imo.
Some people just have an acute case of lazy ass.
I may project that I like to smoke weed and be a degenerate, but I have iron-discipline committed to fitness, frugalness, and reading. Subsequently it boosts my mental health as well.
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Post by Kontra on Feb 27, 2024 10:12:53 GMT -5
People need to learn how to fucking cook too. Instead of buying some stupid shit at burger king, KFC, or pizza hut. Learn how to make your own food, and bring left overs for lunch the next day.
You will save money, and be healthier. Plus it is an important life skill that is necessary for independence. Even if you cook something considered fatty, it is all about portion control, and exercise to put the calories to work. I never eat after dinner, no fucking cookies, or chocolate, fuck that shit! You drink water if you feel hunger, until the next day. If you're hungry still, go to fucking sleep.
Plus when you cook something that tastes good, you feel good about what you've done. You can share it with others, who will show appreciation.
I think this is another important component to mental health.
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Post by good-old on Mar 16, 2024 13:20:40 GMT -5
I can go on forever about how much I hate psych drugs, why the fuck are they not viewed negatively by most people? The fact that they don't really have a high chance to work and that they sometimes worsen it should already say enough. And the chemical imbalance theory isn't even fully known to be true. Add to that the placebo effect, which probably does count for quite a lot of people who were helped by them. Okay, some are there who have actually tried everything, I do believe antidepressants should be used for them, as a last resort, but obviously it's used for way more people.
But yeah other than that, lifestyle changes are the way to go, I definitely agree with you on that. Maybe you didn't have a screw loose if you turned to be successful in life?
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Post by Gokuma on Jun 4, 2024 16:01:58 GMT -5
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Post by VICE on Jun 7, 2024 6:38:03 GMT -5
Antidepressants are BS.
Eat Clean Get Sunlight Be Active Touch Grass
Poof, depression gone.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 7, 2024 7:20:28 GMT -5
There's also purpose. Life goals, hobbies, kids etc. Drifting through life without a reason to do anything will have a big impact.
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Post by Kontra on Jun 7, 2024 10:45:12 GMT -5
There's also purpose. Life goals, hobbies, kids etc. Drifting through life without a reason to do anything will have a big impact. Indeed, I have a child, a house, a wife, and a lot of hobbies as well. I also like to work out, and read. As for weed, I'm taking another extended sabbatical from it. I was 150 days off, 45 days on, and now I'm off again one week thus far. This is what I wanted, to master the consumption of weed, to the point that I can treat it like a little bitch I can toss aside and pick up whenever I want. Use that pussy and kick to the curb, but keep the digits on hand. When I was a young man, me and my band mates would drink and get bomb-blasted often. Now I don't even like alcohol, I have a bar chart full of liquor that's collecting dust. Never had to give it up cold turkey. I never had an issue really, but an outside observer might have called us alcoholics. But nowadays I can go to a concert, and drink like 10 beers, and go about the rest of my life just fine. I have no addiction to it. The Ancient Greeks believed the virtue was moderation, not abstinence. Next time I get into it, I'm just sticking to gummies perhaps. The vape is too harsh after a while to be doing it on the reg, and is really bad for your health in all honesty. During the 45 days I was indulging in it again, I ended up getting a sinus infection, but that could have been also a combination of allergies, since I get it around that time.
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Post by 40oz on Jun 7, 2024 13:24:30 GMT -5
The usual conditions of life in civilized society are profoundly depressing. It's easy to be misled into thinking anti-depressants will make one happy. The objective is to make a depressed person capable of continuing to work.
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Post by lunchlunch on Jun 7, 2024 20:12:50 GMT -5
The Ancient Greeks believed the virtue was moderation, not abstinence But with your weed consumption, if you have to either be on it or off it for extended periods of time, is that really moderation? Or is that periods of dependence followed by periods of abstinence? I don't know exactly what your weed usage is like, nor do I have any judgments about how you live your life one way or another, it just seems misguided IMO when users trick themselves into thinking they're "moderating" by occasionally taking a forced sabbatical. Such measures to "master" one's power over a substance usually denotes being a slave to it in the first place. Maybe I misunderstand you though and am projecting my own untermensch views as an alcoholic.
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Post by Kontra on Jun 8, 2024 5:32:06 GMT -5
The Ancient Greeks believed the virtue was moderation, not abstinence But with your weed consumption, if you have to either be on it or off it for extended periods of time, is that really moderation? Or is that periods of dependence followed by periods of abstinence? I don't know exactly what your weed usage is like, nor do I have any judgments about how you live your life one way or another, it just seems misguided IMO when users trick themselves into thinking they're "moderating" by occasionally taking a forced sabbatical. Such measures to "master" one's power over a substance usually denotes being a slave to it in the first place. Maybe I misunderstand you though and am projecting my own untermensch views as an alcoholic. It is unorthodox I know, but I tend to be like that with everything. Which is why people that know me personally tend to call me an "extremist", I'm either all in or not. Sort of like doing my mods. I worked on it intensely for a few years, then followed by zero. However, I feel comfortable operating like this, sometimes it yields great results, having these bursts of motivation and energy. But perhaps you're right it isn't "moderation".
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Post by Kontra on Jun 8, 2024 5:37:29 GMT -5
One thing I did notice from getting back on it was that it didn't really excite me, or feel as thrilling as it used to, which made it a lot easier to just go back on a sabbatical. Finally, it seems that it is losing it's luster for me, which is actually a good thing. But the real reason why I don't want to completely give it up, is because I legitimately enjoy having it as an option. For example, I can go for how ever long I need to without having a drink, but I would be really upset if I lost the freedom to have a drink if I wanted.
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Post by Kontra on Jun 8, 2024 5:44:05 GMT -5
Last time I saw my GP, she was really pissed off that I had started again, despite the fact that I became fit and lost 25 lbs. It kind of caught me off guard, because she seemed not too perturbed by it prior. What I should have told her was:
"So if someone felt like cutting their balls off, and taking hormones because that's what makes them happy, it's perfectly fine. But I can't have a little weed every now and then? That's what makes me happy."
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Post by Kontra on Jun 8, 2024 5:58:27 GMT -5
Antidepressants are BS. Eat Clean Get Sunlight Be Active Touch Grass Poof, depression gone. 100% agree, Exercise and healthy eating is the number 1 way to combat depression. Even it is just going to a walk, gardening, jogging. I like to do strength training and cardio, as well as focus on my diet. The more you do it, the more you get into it, and the more you are better equipped to take on negativity in your life. I felt like people tried to psychologically abuse me in my life, but the more I projected power and confidence, the more I quelled this feeling. People are really like simple stupid animals, they defer to power and strength, no matter how much we try to kid ourselves that we live in a civilized society of equality and reason.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 8, 2024 7:19:41 GMT -5
One thing I did notice from getting back on it was that it didn't really excite me, or feel as thrilling as it used to, which made it a lot easier to just go back on a sabbatical. I used to smoke like a chimney but pretty much quit cold turkey. It became boring since I was high all the time. After not smoking for around 7-8 years a friend gave me a joint. I thought what the hell, took a couple hits then felt too dumb to concentrate on anything. Ended up doing the only productive thing I could, laundry. Then waited for my head to clear up so I could be productive again. Haven't smoked since and that was about ten years ago but a coworker tricked me into drinking a thc root beer a while ago. Enjoyed that. Just felt relaxed and didn't lose any focus. Had a very chill work day.
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Post by wussekhhg on Jun 8, 2024 9:34:08 GMT -5
I think the main problem with weed is its marketing. In its lower doses it does a decent job at sanding off the sharp edges of life. (High doses, I've found, approach psychedelia.) However, almost everything I've seen coming from America after its partial legalisation (I'm not American so anyone feel free to correct) has been the promotion of stronger and stronger strains, as though the sole problem with weed tolerance is that you need more to correct it, and therefore 'just smoke this stronger strain'! Imagine if this happened with alcohol on a mass scale. Weed will never become legal in the UK (all the current debates about tobacco legalisation here are really covert attempts to make weed [often smoked here with tobacco] less acceptable) but if it did become legal I think that it would get taxed into oblivion due to this very issue and the only difference is that coppers would frisk less black people to pass the time on the beat. The usual conditions of life in civilized society are profoundly depressing. It's easy to be misled into thinking anti-depressants will make one happy. The objective is to make a depressed person capable of continuing to work. k-punk (aka Mark Fisher) made some prescient notes about this and your thoughts here largely concord with his. Though I think in his case he would add that it's this *particular* mode of society that's responsible (i.e. we could imagine a society where this wasn't the case) and as such the current methods used to curtail depression are merely a way of making someone 'fit in' to this current society rather than actually treating them (a job I think only psychoanalysis could handle). A society without depression is probably not possible, but it would be worthwhile to aim towards it as much as possible
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Post by VICE on Jun 9, 2024 0:27:15 GMT -5
![https://i.imgur.com/1DNZwvD.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/1DNZwvD.jpeg) Just lift heavy yo
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Post by Kontra on Jun 9, 2024 5:32:08 GMT -5
![https://i.imgur.com/1DNZwvD.jpeg](https://i.imgur.com/1DNZwvD.jpeg) Just lift heavy yo Dead lifts are great, I enjoy all of the upper and lower body lifting, particularly bench press, and chest flies. The only one I continue to dread is Lateral Raise. Thus it is the one I need to master, and improve upon the most.
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Post by Kontra on Jun 9, 2024 5:37:51 GMT -5
One thing I did notice from getting back on it was that it didn't really excite me, or feel as thrilling as it used to, which made it a lot easier to just go back on a sabbatical. I used to smoke like a chimney but pretty much quit cold turkey. It became boring since I was high all the time. After not smoking for around 7-8 years a friend gave me a joint. I thought what the hell, took a couple hits then felt too dumb to concentrate on anything. Ended up doing the only productive thing I could, laundry. Then waited for my head to clear up so I could be productive again. Haven't smoked since and that was about ten years ago but a coworker tricked me into drinking a thc root beer a while ago. Enjoyed that. Just felt relaxed and didn't lose any focus. Had a very chill work day. There's a THC infused water down at a store I tried a few time, it can hit pretty good. But yeah, I feel like I don't need to do it. I'm cool with or with out it. I kind of think of it like an indulgent, like eating ice cream now.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 9, 2024 8:03:40 GMT -5
A Kermit the frog voice popped into my head.
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Post by VICE on Jun 9, 2024 8:07:30 GMT -5
Kermit? No way. I sound like the cookie monster fyi.
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Post by 40oz on Jun 9, 2024 9:14:15 GMT -5
lifting weights only get you so far. Theres things people are legitimately depressed about (i.e. being a victim of child abuse, sexual assault, or actually being physically disabled are big ones)
Not denying the mental benefits of having physical strength and endurance, its definitely a lot better than not working towards it.
But being able to lift heavier weights and more reps is cool up until you start to realize it doesnt have a lot of real world application. Unless you want your friends to ask you to help move furniture, working at a regular office job and making doom maps means im almost never in a position of needing to move heavy things.
It also kinda sucks when you have body image issues like i do. I have an ectomorphic body type so when I started working out, i was a little discouraged from the amount of calories i need to consume in order to have any noticeabke physical change. I still cant believe the amount of abdominal exercises and dehydration i have to do to make my core look like anything at all. Fuck it.
I still workout anyway but it feels like annoying maintenance sometimes. Also if you keep up with a usual regimen dont you just feel sore half the time? Whenever i take breaks from working out for a few weeks, i know the quantity of pounds i can lift starts to decrease, but i actually 'feel' stronger during these periods when im not winded and sore all the time.
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