StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Feb 25, 2024 2:55:35 GMT -5
All US education is pretty broken though and I would personally love to see the dept of education gutted for how much of a failure it's been. What makes you think it's a failure? Jesus, an educated populace is the government's worst nightmare. Can you imagine if people had enough economic nous to see what's coming down the road? Are there even enough lamp-posts in Washington to hang all those representatives? American retardation is a feature, not a bug. Even on that front they're failing. Unless of course the end goal is both an uneducated and ungovernable populace. Maybe they're just taking a page out of certain three letter agency's playbook for how they deal with other nations.
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Post by dn on Feb 25, 2024 3:18:29 GMT -5
Even on that front they're failing. Unless of course the end goal is both an uneducated and ungovernable populace. Maybe they're just taking a page out of certain three letter agency's playbook for how they deal with other nations. Might be a point. What we're seeing is the second generation, retards taught by retards. I disagree that they are ungovernable, tho: you need a bigger daddy government with a bigger fascist boot, quite clearly. And I can't help but notice a certain sector of the campus populace is calling for exactly that.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Feb 25, 2024 4:13:05 GMT -5
Even on that front they're failing. Unless of course the end goal is both an uneducated and ungovernable populace. Maybe they're just taking a page out of certain three letter agency's playbook for how they deal with other nations. Might be a point. What we're seeing is the second generation, retards taught by retards. I disagree that they are ungovernable, tho: you need a bigger daddy government with a bigger fascist boot, quite clearly. And I can't help but notice a certain sector of the campus populace is calling for exactly that. Those clamoring for daddys boot to push down tighter on their neck only occupy a tiny portion of the land mass here. If you look at maps by district it's almost all red and the opinion of the fed is more than bit different outside of urban hellscapes. Not saying they can't be pacified but the best way to do that right now would probably be by using Trump for optics. They seam to have painted themselves in a corner on that one.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 7:52:46 GMT -5
Here's the thing guys, while I can't speak for everyone, I'm light-years ahead of the people that didn't go to college that I know. So based on my own experience and witnessing the experience of others, getting a degree does give you at least some edge. Maybe it may have to do with the fact if you can see through a degree, than you probably just have what it takes to make it in other endeavors regardless.
No doubt it is possible to make a lot working a job with your hands in a trade. But often they don't have pensions, 401ks, and healthcare/dental/optical. Or if they do it is probably bare minimum.
My uncle for example is the most successful person I know without a degree, he dropped out too. He makes 6 figures, but doesn't have those benefits, and has to pay big money for private insurance. Despite his success he always advocated for getting a formal education. Because he knows he's the exception to the rule.
Nevertheless, I also attribute my success to the fact that I am hard working, punctual, honest, and demonstrate my commitment on the job. My degree only got my foot in the door.
But if I focused specifically in what I majored in, I would not be in the position I'm in. There's also the fact that some people get too much education. Meaning they get expensive post graduate degrees in non-lucrative fields. Then incur massive debt. Like I said before, an undergraduate degree is high school. But getting more than that really should only be considered if you're going for something that's going to pay off , i.e. stem, corporate law, finance.
Nevertheless, it's horse shit to pretend there's zero value to getting a degree. Like I said, it helps get your foot in the door. But a successful person is going to be successful based on their intellegence, work ethic and determination to succeed, for 90% of the endeavor.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 8:27:53 GMT -5
Also some people think that all kids that go to college become brainwashed with progressive nonsense. I went to a very liberal college in an urban setting, and yet I'm me. If you have a more resilient personality, you are not going to get influenced. But again that depends on the type of person going in. Some people are born to follow and some aren't. If fascism was the prevailing and more socially acceptable ideology, those same followers would be fascist instead.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 9:53:23 GMT -5
All of that being said, while I advocate for people to get degrees to at least get their foot in the door professionally; if you want to learn, pick up a book and read it. Most of my learning has come from reading, and doing my own research in my free time. I genuinely have a thrust for knowledge, and that has been a characteristic of me since I was a child.
People need to be more mercenary-like and less sentimental when it comes to professional life. Don't go to college simply to learn, you can do that on your own for free. Go to college to hone a professional skill-set. Professors will probably tell you to do the opposite, but don't listen to them, because a lot of them are professional-losers (not all).
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Post by picks-a-tool on Feb 25, 2024 12:40:00 GMT -5
Good. Now you have more time to bounce on my (content removed) from dusk till dawn. Don't waste it any further, jump right into my balls. I'm gonna fill every slavhole of yours with the holy cum. On a serious note. Don't know how things exactly works on Putin land but down here if you're not too much into lush life, you'll do just fine with a couple of technical courses. I've worked for years in the HR department and the amount of filtering I had to do regarding incompetent scumbags flexing multiple degrees on their CV was outlandish (either legit or counterfeited). But with tech certs? Not so much. No company I've work it will take them papers at face value and depending on the field a degree can be relatively worthless. Also, pursuing career on environmentalism?
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Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 25, 2024 12:52:25 GMT -5
Certs, and Experience > Degrees.
EDIT: But not finishing college with a degree after investing so much I understand how that's gotta suck. I would try to still finish with something to show for it. I finished but I hated college and school altogether, and now they're a lot worse and even more full of shit than when I went. I wish I went to vo-tech in high school. College sucked but the friends I made and the absolutely insane combination of martial arts I learned are invaluable. I've seen someone go back and finish after a while. Just try not to run up too much debt. I had no debt from cheap county community college and I eventually payed off the 18K I racked up at a university after that. I think you're doubting your ability to write a thesis. I didn't have to write one, but they're definitely accepting a lot of crap and giving degrees to retards. You're smarter than those retards.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2024 12:59:52 GMT -5
personally speaking mafia connections + being better at something than most while still objectively being a lazy fuck >>>> being poor
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Post by xeepeep on Feb 25, 2024 15:00:57 GMT -5
Also, pursuing career on environmentalism? Do I look like some treehugger hippie ƒaggot to you? My dad's well-known and successful in the field. I hate ecology otherwise. I couldn't name three species of plants right now if you asked me.
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Post by xeepeep on Feb 25, 2024 15:04:00 GMT -5
What do you mean by certificates?
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dn
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Post by dn on Feb 25, 2024 15:06:57 GMT -5
Do I look like some treehugger hippie ƒaggot to you? My dad's well-known and successful in the field. I hate ecology otherwise. I couldn't name three species of plants right now if you asked me. your alchemy build sucks then, best change specialization and become a stealth archer.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Feb 25, 2024 15:34:16 GMT -5
Just reroll a new toon and spec into big pp. It's op build.
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Post by nnn✓ork on Feb 25, 2024 21:50:55 GMT -5
I do often think about what it'd be like if I reloaded a save state from ten years ago, and what it'd be like if I were to respec into other parts of the skill tree.
I mean, I could've gone into the furry porn business instead of pursuing an expensive comp-sci/math degree. What did it even do for me? unlock secrets of the universe? make me into a wizard with divine understanding of and feel for the abstract weave of reality? make it a little easier to get a tech job in a now oversaturated industry? turn me into an alcoholic? And, as an autodidact, did I even need to spend five years and a crap-ton of money on this anyways just for a piece of paper with clout attached to it?
Pfft. I could've been drawing boobs and dicks instead! I could be manifesting into media people's darkest, twisted desires. I could be conjuring and erecting otherworldly things that their puny mortal minds aren't even capable of realizing nor fathoming yet, and then selling them.
But yah, I bet we all have "grass is always greener on the other side" thoughts sometimes. Best not to let the ruminations eat at you. Make the best of what you got the best you can, but where-ever we find ourselves, it is what it is - don't sweat it too much, etc. Blah-blah.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2024 10:57:53 GMT -5
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Post by deathevokation on Feb 28, 2024 16:14:17 GMT -5
Happens to the best of us mate.. I sunk soo many years into things that are useless now since I went by the sunken cost fallacy without actually knowing what the term meant! Even without the ticket, atleast I'm sure you learned some new things through the course and about yourself.. Best wishes from my side of the world!
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 28, 2024 16:28:34 GMT -5
What do you mean by certificates? Certifications, at least in the computer science field, but I'm sure in others.
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