Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Jan 16, 2024 4:28:26 GMT -5
This one might wreck your computer.
It's called KB5034441 Windows Recovery Environment Update.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2024 4:58:35 GMT -5
This one might wreck your computer. Windows 10 in general. |
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Post by dr_st on Jan 16, 2024 5:40:47 GMT -5
I run all my Win10 (Pro) with NoAutoUpdate set to 1 in the registry. And usually let any major releases sit and stabilize for a while before I update.
Nothing has been wrecked so far.
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SilverMiner
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Post by SilverMiner on Jan 16, 2024 10:14:47 GMT -5
I'm on Win 7
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jan 16, 2024 14:50:55 GMT -5
FUCK WINDOWS 10, WINDOWS 7 DA BEST.
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Post by hex11 on Jan 17, 2024 12:06:13 GMT -5
For me it's Windows 3. Because it just sits there and does nothing but take up some disk space, since all the good programs are for DOS. Windows 95 was a mistake.
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good-old
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Post by good-old on Jan 18, 2024 7:42:33 GMT -5
Windows 7 gang here too. For people using Windows 10, doing what dr_st did can be extremely helpful because autoupdates are one of the worst things about it.
Also hex11 are you serious about that? I'm not that knowledgeable about Windows 3, but compatibility is a major obstacle in using older OSes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2024 8:10:27 GMT -5
gnu/linux gang here, win10 was the last straw
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RastaManGames
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Post by RastaManGames on Jan 18, 2024 9:21:53 GMT -5
I were on Windows 7 for a long time (and this is my most beloved OC after death of Windows XP), but after some hardware updates (especially, CPU) I was forced to to some shenanigans to acquire Windows 10 as fast as possible.
And now there is some really sad news about Steam that isn't gonna support Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1...
I may sound like an old fart, but sometimes I am not in love with the future and its stuff (like updates).
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Post by good-old on Jan 18, 2024 11:14:23 GMT -5
I mean, there is no reason to always like the future. There are tons of things that are worsening instead of improving over time nowadays, so it's the more logical choice in a lot of topics.
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Post by dr_st on Jan 19, 2024 6:39:19 GMT -5
Vista and Windows 7 were the pinnacle of Microsoft's work when it comes to beautiful, consistent desktop experience. Of the two, Windows 7 hashed out all the early problems of Vista, and got many many more years of useful software support, which made it a very stable and great OS.
However, once updates stop and third-party software support dwindles, eventually the OS becomes inadequate for modern tasks. Windows 7 is not there yet, but is borderline. Also, kernel-wise, Windows does get better with every generation, no exceptions. The kernel team at Microsoft is very good and strong. The problems lie with the UI, which has become inconsistent as they had tried to cater to desktop, mobile and "phablet" markets at the same time. Plus, the gradual decline in the QA teams inside Microsoft has caused many many blunders as end-users essentially become beta testers.
Still, with all said and done - if I need to choose one rule of thumb regarding "best Windows" - it is always choose the period-correct version for the hardware. It will likely perform best, be the most stable and most useful on that hardware.
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Post by hex11 on Jan 19, 2024 11:14:19 GMT -5
Also hex11 are you serious about that? I'm not that knowledgeable about Windows 3, but compatibility is a major obstacle in using older OSes. I never actually used Windows 3 for anything, it just happened to be installed along with DOS on some 386SX/16 PC that I had briefly in the early 90's (it was actually a roommate's computer, not mine). Windows was pretty useless back then, and completely optional. I'm not even sure why he even bothered to install it in the first place. I'm guessing it just came like that when he bought the computer. When I built my own PC a few years later (precisely spec'd for running Doom well), I didn't even bother to install Windows. And actually I didn't buy the OS, I just copied the DOS 6.22 disks from a friend, but I didn't bother to copy the Windows disks because there was just no point (all the interesting games were for DOS). Then the next year Bill Gates unleashed his Windows 95 virus on the world. But I wasn't impressed by this at all, because I'd already seen comparable GUI multitasking on older Commodore Amiga systems going back to the 80's. OS/2 and Windows NT did it better, but they needed even more hardware resources. So I took the only logical step: install Slackware. Because this provided rock-solid *nix multitasking, and provided I didn't run X11 (which much like Windows 3 was very much optional back then), I wouldn't have to upgrade my computer. And there was already an SVGAlib port of Doom that ran the IWADs well on my computer. |
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Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Jan 19, 2024 11:38:09 GMT -5
I run all my Win10 (Pro) with NoAutoUpdate set to 1 in the registry. And usually let any major releases sit and stabilize for a while before I update. Nothing has been wrecked so far. I've been searching in regedit and can't find that setting. Could you tell me the path? Vista and Windows 7 were the pinnacle of Microsoft's work when it comes to beautiful, consistent desktop experience. Of the two, Windows 7 hashed out all the early problems of Vista, and got many many more years of useful software support, which made it a very stable and great OS. However, once updates stop and third-party software support dwindles, eventually the OS becomes inadequate for modern tasks. Windows 7 is not there yet, but is borderline. Also, kernel-wise, Windows does get better with every generation, no exceptions. The kernel team at Microsoft is very good and strong. The problems lie with the UI, which has become inconsistent as they had tried to cater to desktop, mobile and "phablet" markets at the same time. Plus, the gradual decline in the QA teams inside Microsoft has caused many many blunders as end-users essentially become beta testers. Still, with all said and done - if I need to choose one rule of thumb regarding "best Windows" - it is always choose the period-correct version for the hardware. It will likely perform best, be the most stable and most useful on that hardware. I thought Vista/8 were overbearing garbage and avoided them like the plague since microsoft tried to exert too much overbearing control over users and limit what they're allowed to do. To rate various Windows: Windows 3x - used it but never had it myself. I guess it served its purpose. Win 95 A - unstable piece of shit that destroyed itself anytime a 1GB hard drive got down under 100 MB free, so you weren't allowed to use a whole 10% of that size HD. I guess if you only had a 512 MB HD then you probably couldn't use a fifth of it. Win 95 B - rock solid, most compatible with period stuff and I stuck with, except no USB support yet I don't think Win 95 C - added USB support and larger HD partition support (pretty much modified partway into Win 98), but lost compatibility as my Gravis Grip multiport with four controllers wouldn't work on a friend's computer, which was a big deal, back when PC engineers were such solitary stubborn asses about only putting one freaking controller port on a sound card. And it was hard to find PC gamepads that didn't suck shit and had more than four buttons. Win 98 earlier version - Not sure, maybe not so stable Win 98SE - best of the Win9x (except for not supporting Gravis Grip mulitport) Wins ME - Total unstable piece of shit where I guess they tried to hack Win 98 part way into XP. Friend had it and it was the worst shit I had to deal with. Spent a good amount time fixing it for him. Although it didn't help that he would get viruses from Christian websites who believed in faith-based internet security. There were still combability problems and dead end lacking of options and unstableness that made it definitely a PoS OS even when it was clean. Win NT - shit compatibility for the time but I guess it served it purpose to those it appealed to. Win XP - based on NT so lost compatibility for a while, but pretty decent now (as long it's kept offline only). Great go-between to have on an offline LAN, since Win9x comps can't see Win 7/10, but XP can communicate with either. So you can transfer stuff between 9X and 7/10 indirectly by using the XP in between. I unfortunately haven't had a working XP for years now. Win Vista - fuck that shit Win 7 - pretty good but should have been less resource intensive and more efficient Win 8 = Windows Vista Redux - fuck that Win 10 - I guess alright. May be more efficient than 7 but probably more demanding for same hardware. Freaking annoying rearrange of various settings and options and I have to go digging in many different sound or network or whatever the fuck menus and submenus to find what I'm looking for. Just for the sake of making things different. Win 11 -Fuck that shit. I remember some guys I made the mistake of considering friends who were uppity snobs about always having the latest crap and would make fun of older hardware, Sega Saturn, Doom, and C&C Red Alert 1, and their graphics. They didn't make any custom stuff, except for one did learn to make some Doom stuff from me and was getting pretty decent at it quick, but stopped after a while. Well look how those things have held up after all this time. See how much a working Saturn and its better games are going for these days. They were shitty excuses for friends for other reasons in addition to their unnecessary attitudes. About the using the period correct windows for the hardware, 110% correct. It seems best to leave the versions of Windows that comes on a computer or was installed at the time the computer was put together. But also avoid when stores would sell total bullshit like a Win XP comp with only 128 MB. That's sufficient for 98SE but XP needed 256 MB or more to run well, unless you were just using it for an overblown word processor (Remember them? Basically high tech typewriters but I suppose someone could figure out how to run Doom on them these days.) |
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Post by RastaManGames on Jan 19, 2024 11:40:20 GMT -5
Gokuma, but what about Win 8 and Win 8.1? O_o
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Post by dr_st on Jan 19, 2024 16:38:40 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2024 17:01:57 GMT -5
I don't get why there's people that are using Windows 11. That OS is complete dogshit, especially since they removed the option to make a local account, which was a dumb move. I know there was a bypass, but this was two years ago, dunno if it works still.You will post ze neofetch and be happy |
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Post by dr_st on Jan 20, 2024 15:21:08 GMT -5
I don't get why there's people that are using Windows 11. That OS is complete dogshit, especially since they removed the option to make a local account, which was a dumb move. I know there was a bypass, but this was two years ago, dunno if it works still.On Pro you can still use a local account. People use it because it's like Win10, only slightly faster on new hardware, and a bit better looking too. Some nice features in the GUI. My dad likes it. All my machines are still on Win10 or older. |
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