Gokuma
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
Resident DB English Teacher
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Post by Gokuma on Feb 15, 2024 17:54:39 GMT -5
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Post by deathevokation on Feb 16, 2024 3:36:17 GMT -5
For me it kinda does in a lot of situations... if you argue against people who keep namecalling, argue in bad faith, try spin your "I don't like anti Japanese censorship in vidya games" (and I'm talking about jrpgs like Granblue Fantasy for example) into you being a coomer or a pedo then eventually you go "fuck these people, I hate all of them, they're only here to make everyone else miserable and they'll stop "sharing" the "community" with weebs they so despise when they run on to the next untainted hobby once they've rid the games here of all escapism and fan service". Arguing with actual humans I'll try meet middle ground.. but arguing against people that hate you will make life miserable, and it's not something I recommend!
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dn
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the motherfucking darknation
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Post by dn on Feb 16, 2024 9:23:58 GMT -5
Gokuma: I had to look that up to make sure it wasn't a shitpost. Iran invading Antarctica was not on my Apocalypse bingo card.
Kinda hope they outfit a little wagon train of muslim pioneers and send them out to conquer this bold new frontier. The glorious popsicle cannibal jihad is exactly the sort of television special I require.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2024 7:30:18 GMT -5
clearly the bed was asking for it. Maybe the sheets looked like their sisters in hajibs? Kazakhs aren't really durka-durka goat rapists like Afghanis are, man; But hey, you never know...
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Post by righttooffend on May 7, 2024 21:53:10 GMT -5
I used to care more about offending people, I would care about their feelings. But from decades viscously arguing with people online. From being excoriated, to excoriating others with less remorse each time, I feel like I have changed. This really ramped up in 2015, and has gone beyond politics, but to really any subject I feel passionate about. What's more is that I have also began behaving like this in real-life, on a variety of topics. I've become accustom to just telling people things flat, with no regard to how it makes them feel. I argue endlessly, until the person is too exhausted to continue. Which is actually a failure, because they are convinced of nothing. Maybe it also has to do with getting older? I noticed old people especially just don't give a shit, and say what they want. It is actually quite funny to witness. Or maybe this is just the way our society is moving, and we are just acting more like chimps than socialized humans. What are your thoughts? What you're experiencing is nothing new. The internet is not to blame. It's been the human experience 100 years ago, and since the dawn of man. I recently discovered an excellent book written by a guy called Dale Carnegie in the '30s. It's called, How to Win Friends and Influence People. When I read in the free Amazon preview/sample that arguing with people never gets anywhere--only ever makes the other person get defensive and dig in rather than listen--that struck me as one of the truest things I'd ever read but never really thought about before. I knew then I had to read the full thing. Personally, I've always spoken to my family honestly, whether I like something or dislike something, I'm never going to cushion what I have to say for sake of feelings, but I can be comfortable doing that because I know we love each other, and that love transcends anything. Most times, it is easy to have minor disagreements without it ever even becoming a fight. In real life, when I communicate with people I know and care about, I just naturally tend to phrase things in a way that gets my view across while still being open and sympathetic to what they feel. A critical difference between online and real life is that I also actually do care what my family have to say and how they feel. It's just naturally impossible to extend the same love to everybody in existence. Love, by definition, has to be a special, exclusive emotion reserved for those you truly care about. If it were possible to love everyone equally, the word itself would be meaningless. Of course, one should still extend common courtesy in discourse with strangers, but I think that is the main difference. When you're amongst friends and family, you do genuinely care about them and their feelings and their beliefs. When you're amongst strangers, you don't. Which is why generally one does not get into serious discussions with total strangers in real life. We usually only engage in small talk. The internet creates a forum where people can go beyond small talk and discuss more serious topics, but the problem is we inherently don't really care about the other side, because we don't know them personally and aren't invested in them through repeated interaction. There's no human face, just a wall of text. There's no non-verbal cues or "vibes" you get off someone in person. Enunciation and emotion in the voice itself matters. You aren't even communicating in real time, bouncing things off one another. It's one post in isolation, then somebody else responds later, and so on. There's so much nuance lost in translation that makes online communication so much more apt to misunderstanding and frustration. What is novel to the internet, in my opinion, is the kneejerk reaction culture, and that has extended to other things like news outlets. It's a culture of immediately forming rant-like opinions based on clickbaity headlines alone before the person has even bothered to actually read the contents of the article. To quickly jump to conclusions without giving the benefit of the doubt. To re-share dubious propaganda without fact-checking first. Some of that mentality is justified--after all, not everybody's words online are really worth your time to read or closely examine. A lot of it, most of it even, is just ranting, meandering garbage. But the unfortunate result is that most people's default setting is to completely ignore anything more than a sentence long. I think that's one reason why most articles and websites nowadays seem to make text font bigger and margins narrower, to fit as few words on screen as possible, even if it makes actually reading a pain. They're afraid too much text on screen might scare away readers.
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