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Post by thundercunt on Dec 23, 2023 22:12:18 GMT -5
This boss set new standards for bullshit MAP30 bosses
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 23:39:46 GMT -5
I love Struggle Anteresian Legacy but I've never understood why this map and boss was made/included. It doesn't feel necessary at all, especially when the maps proceeding it are quite beautiful and climactic on their own. If you don't have any ideas for the map30 then just make it a credits / atmospheric map like Ancient Aliens or something. Antares also made the horrible map30 boss for Eviternity as well, why.
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Post by CittyKat112 on Dec 24, 2023 14:29:49 GMT -5
This map sucks, yeah, but did you like the megawad?
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Post by SilverMiner on Dec 24, 2023 15:06:06 GMT -5
Without context I don't get what's wrong with this map. It looks short and fast
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Post by dr_st on Dec 24, 2023 16:21:51 GMT -5
I suppose it's almost insta-kill if you get hit by the boss' projectiles, and avoiding them successfully is mostly luck-based?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2023 16:38:57 GMT -5
Without context I don't get what's wrong with this map. It looks short and fast Iron Leech being Terrywads average appreciator. Not that Terrywads are shit (they are not... well, not all of them at least), but the boss itself is the fucking AIDS.
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Post by SilverMiner on Dec 24, 2023 16:58:16 GMT -5
Ха, да я тоже подумал, что бой на терривады похож
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2023 22:01:06 GMT -5
i played maybe the first 10 maps, i don't really like the gameplay changes and the arena combat stuff, maybe when i'm older and wiser in unrelated news, watching mtpain's nova 3 review reminded me it has a wereknight map, which i actually remembered pretty well (it's a cool megawad in general), now after reading all his shitposts it takes a whole new meaning... jk. nova 3 > nova 1 > nova 2
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Post by thundercunt on Dec 24, 2023 22:17:51 GMT -5
After 40+ attempts, I finally did it. I was about to give up playing on Delta Touch and try it on PC instead, hoping that the fight would be less awful with keyboard and mouse, but that was not necessary. There is no trick, just run away blasting the leichenfaust and pray for good RNG.
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Post by thundercunt on Dec 25, 2023 12:03:07 GMT -5
I suppose it's almost insta-kill if you get hit by the boss' projectiles, and avoiding them successfully is mostly luck-based? Exactly. Somehow, the dude on the video got really good RNG. When it was me that was playing, this fucking never stopped zig-zagging, making it extremely difficult to hit it with the Leichenfaust
Without context I don't get what's wrong with this map. It looks short and fast It looks really fun on video, huh? Just try playing the actual map and see for yourself how fun it is This map sucks, yeah, but did you like the megawad? I really enjoyed it. Making everything faster was a brilliant design choice. Fights don't get any boring because everything is so damn fast and the maps never felt any grindy because of it. Visuals were also excellent, although all the techbases got a bit repetitive after some time
I love Struggle Anteresian Legacy but I've never understood why this map and boss was made/included. It doesn't feel necessary at all, especially when the maps proceeding it are quite beautiful and climactic on their own. If you don't have any ideas for the map30 then just make it a credits / atmospheric map like Ancient Aliens or something. Antares also made the horrible map30 boss for Eviternity as well, why. Yes, this was a total dogshit boss fight, but I think the idea is kind of cool and could have worked on a GzDoom mod with some advanced ZScript trickery
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Post by E.M. on Apr 4, 2024 17:01:40 GMT -5
"I just played the gayest map on earth"? Is that the name of Anal Cunt's latest song? Has Seth Putnam risen from his grave? I hope so.
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Post by wussekhhg on Apr 7, 2024 1:23:11 GMT -5
I think once you play enough final maps where you circlestrafe a custom monster that bodies you into red-flash oblivion the second you fuck it up, you start to appreciate the old gold Icon of Sin map again. At least id was trying to do something unique with the boss that ended the Doom-Doom II diptych -- with its suddenly serious atmosphere, its integrating the puzzle aspect of Doom into the level, showcasing a new mechanic (the mob spawning), presenting you with a monster immune to direct attack, that seems to have cursed you with a black speech which is the only significant speech in either WAD--, even if the years since have exhausted the concept to oblivion. If you regard the level in terms of the atmospheric effect it might have on someone playing Doom II for their first time, novice to the first-person-shooter genre, it's class. Yeah the gameplay might not be great now but we've near thirty years hindsight on the thing.
Au contraire, how is a map like this different than being slammed into by a pic of carnevil in a terrywad? It's not, it's just that it uses Raven assets so it's Oll Korrect. Or w/e. At least the terrywads own how shitty playing against a monster like this is.
I think Doom with how the engine is designed isn't really suited to having single monsters being extremely powerful anyway, I'm not sure it's really a thing that works with any FPS. The WADs that either end with just a really tough map (eg sf2012) or something still non-trivial but easy enough to act as a victory lap (eg aaliens, discounting map30 as it's basically an extended 'thank you'-map) end the set on a far higher note.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2024 12:04:48 GMT -5
Hehe I was expecting a Terry wad.
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Post by optimus on Apr 13, 2024 17:23:30 GMT -5
I must have played this wad once. I remember the color palette and atmosphere of some maps. I don't even remember this boss though, probably ragequit on it and iddqded.
90s WADs are more simple and nostalgic.
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Post by hex11 on Apr 13, 2024 21:25:28 GMT -5
I haven't really played much lately other than SLIGE wads. I don't even follow the new stuff anymore.
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