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Post by hakros on Dec 16, 2023 13:47:19 GMT -5
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SilverMiner
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by SilverMiner on Dec 16, 2023 13:59:25 GMT -5
thanks
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Post by dr_st on Dec 16, 2023 14:20:28 GMT -5
Awesome. I must play it.
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Post by ass-Klappin superfreaK enjoyer on Dec 16, 2023 14:35:03 GMT -5
Congratulations to the authors!
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Post by nnnvork on Dec 16, 2023 14:38:56 GMT -5
Steamy Bathhouse was better. Rigged.
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Post by hakros on Dec 16, 2023 15:29:45 GMT -5
Well, the truth is that all of your projects are of very good quality. I really liked DBP56: Augustland Barrens.
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Post by deathevokation on Dec 16, 2023 15:45:45 GMT -5
Steamy Bathhouse was better. Rigged.  |
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Post by taintedslav on Dec 20, 2023 16:53:35 GMT -5
From where I stand and what I know, you've fucked up big time.
Typical. congratz on failure hakros, I knew you'd ruin the shit up.
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Post by Tangra on Dec 25, 2023 5:20:20 GMT -5
No offense, but these "awards" are an utter embarrassment! Good job on turning a good idea into a laughing stock for the Cacoward hypocrites to point their fingers at. What is worse than a bunch of biased, easily offended cucks, voting the awards? One delusional person, with no experience or mapping skill, giving "awards" on his own. That's right, you're a nobody to be deciding on your own what the best wads of the year are. It's okay to do it, but the result will be nothing more than your personal best list, calling it "Doom Awards" when you have no credibility to award anything or anyone, just shows that you think too high of yourself, or in other words - you're completely out of your mind if you think your little wad list is worth something. I hope you enjoy the mockery you created of yourself.
The best possible alternative for the Cacowards, would be something voted by the community in an open survey... realize that anything less than that will always be shit!
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Post by thundercunt on Dec 25, 2023 11:39:27 GMT -5
Imagine if you were actually trying to offend him |
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Post by hakros on Dec 27, 2023 11:00:53 GMT -5
Imagine if you were actually trying to offend him Don't worry, I've already heard/read plenty of nonsense on DW. Another stupid one won't be a problem for me...xD !! |
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You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by Gokuma on Dec 27, 2023 21:50:46 GMT -5
hakros Going forward it would be good to have a public vote (unless there was and I missed it) and observe some of the more constructive criticism. Of course DW's mentionation business was shown to be a totally farce with people's votes totally ignored and work disqualified just because the DW staff hates a lot of people, and 40oz wouldn't bend the knee to them despite having too much empathy for them. I had basically no contribution to DBP59, but I do see your awarding it as a good gesture and recognition for those who worked so hard on it. And 40oz's dialog/quest system within vanilla -cl 2/limit-removing is a freaking crazy accomplishment.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Dec 27, 2023 23:13:52 GMT -5
there was a public vote, however mostly popular stuff was even mentioned and the zgroom clique had their hands in this one as well. maybe use something other than discord, add more wads automatically and don't write reviews using chatgpt, since at that point you might as well give up
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Post by hakros on Dec 28, 2023 19:37:20 GMT -5
It seems you are completely mistaken. The voting is public; all the winners of the main categories have been voted for and chosen by users who wanted to participate (not you, as it's clear from your comments that you haven't even read the rules). On the official website, there's a table with the results. doomawards.com/nominees.php?year=2023P.S.: This comment is especially directed at Tangra, in case you want to learn to read before talking about what you have no idea. --------------------- Another thing is that anyone can make nominations, but if you guys haven't even bothered to enter the server, what can I say. Even so, five of your projects have been nominated. |
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Post by Tangra on Dec 28, 2023 20:43:00 GMT -5
Sorry but i have to be harsh with you again, because i don't like liars and frauds.
Are those votes as legit as the "totaly not paid" likes and retweets you have going on for your "awards" on twitter? Where are these people who voted then? Your awards weren't announced neither here nor on doomworld, up until your imaginary voting was done by the looks of it.
Octate second best wad of the year? That's laughable! Also best rookie map and Hypnos as the best rookie creator? It's so obvious that he was handpicked by you. Am i wrong? Because it looks like he's the only one nominated in these categories, i don't see others.
You also only have 7 nominations for a single map of the year, which is pathetic and clearly handpicked by you, again. What is even more strange, the winner for creator of the year has 132 votes, but MyHouse, you know... the biggest and most popular thing to happen in the community this year, has only 35 votes.
Did you have ChatGPT create that voting list too? Because it looks like it. Again, who are these people who voted? Because anyone can make a shitty list and add some numbers to it. I'm sorry but i'm having a hard time believing someone who buys likes on twitter, who uses ChatGPT to create his crappy awards and tries to pass it as a legit work (because he's stupid enough to believe people will buy that crap), can be honest about the whole thing. It's really hard for me to believe that someone as delusional as you, can get anyone on board for a legitimate voting. And sorry for bringing that up again, but you're a nobody in this community, there's no way you get even 5 people to vote in your clearly biased and cherrypicked nominations. That will be like if decide to make Doom Awards with less than a year of experience in the community... thankfully, i know my place.
Edit: Oh, wait, i take one back. I see that you sort of announced the awards here all the way back in may. So for that i was wrong, but everything else i stand behind.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Dec 29, 2023 1:32:47 GMT -5
it's funny because i actually voted and nominated stuff (for the heck of it really), you can make things biased even if there's legit voting involved -- not everyone is gonna bother to either make an account, join the server, vote much less nominate stuff. ideally the whole thing should be more transparent, require minimal input and have zero "staff awards" and the like. i imagine doing that would require some hijacking and purging akin to what happened early on, but i have no insider info on that
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Post by dr_st on Dec 29, 2023 2:37:36 GMT -5
And sorry for bringing that up again, but you're a nobody in this community, there's no way you get even 5 people to vote in your clearly biased and cherrypicked nominations. That will be like if decide to make Doom Awards with less than a year of experience in the community... thankfully, i know my place. Why are you so angry? Without getting into details about the actual nominees and winners, which I know nothing about except that DBP59 is considered great - you seem to fundamentally question the very legitimacy of the idea of hakros giving out "Doom Awards". Well, the only thing that makes it legitimate is that he actually bothered. Went, bought a domain, created a website and put some content on it. That's more than most people do. Even if it was done using ChatGPT. And even if the result is nothing more than his personal best list - so what? From here on - it's survival of the fittest. If the content is crap, people won't be drawn to it and it will die out. If it turns out that maybe the guy knows what he's talking about, and has a taste - it might actually grow and improve with time. It seems like someone has given you an alternate platform for awards, which you ( Tangra ) seem to think is needed. Instead of shutting it out and dismissing entirely, because it did not immediately materialize as the ideal platform in your view, give constructive criticism. Be positive, not negative. |
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Post by Tangra on Dec 29, 2023 4:28:44 GMT -5
I'm not angry at the idea of the Doom Awards, I'm all for it. I'm angry at the Cacowards and their pathetic, petty bias. I'm also angry, because a good idea and initiative was ruined and turned into a mockery, because of someone who has no business organizing awards in the first place, for he's a noob who doesn't know what he's doing, and was foolish enough to use ChatGPT, bought fake attention on twitter, and then tried to fool everyone with it. This is no better than the Cacowards or its alternative - it is a total disaster, that makes everyone who wanted an alternative, look like a naive idiot now.
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Post by dr_st on Dec 29, 2023 9:23:08 GMT -5
it is a total disaster, that makes everyone who wanted an alternative, look like a naive idiot now It seems you are the only one here with this sentiment. Maybe it's not so bad then? The first attempt at something almost never turns to be the best thing since sliced bread. If you are "all for" the idea of Doom Awards, why don't you make suggestions to improve it instead of telling the guy that he has "no business doing it in the first place"? |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 29, 2023 9:41:32 GMT -5
No matter what there's a fervent horde that would shit all over this regardless of anything. Not privy to any of the issues that happened and frankly I don't care. I think the overreaction some are having is just a bit beyond batshit to put it mildly. Caught a bit of the last thread about it on dw and really wonder why people are so invested in something that has zero impact on them. Guy did an award for the niche of mods for our beloved decades old game the overwhelming majority of the world could give less than half a shit about. You don't like how it was handled, cool but he didn't go to your house and stomp on your puppy for Christ's sake. I don't know a damn thing about hakros other than that he actually took some time to do this and doing anything at all is more of a contribution than like 90% of the broader "community".
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Post by wernergoldberg on Dec 29, 2023 9:49:31 GMT -5
i mean, having an ai write reviews is almost as insulting as excluding groups of people from your awards by shifting blame on being "anti social" and a "nazi" or whatever. not anyone's fault this community is rife with such individuals innit (which are often long time contributors)
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Dec 29, 2023 9:58:46 GMT -5
If someone had ai write up something similar about any of my work I don't think my feeling towards it would be anywhere near insulted. The very worst I would be able to muster from the deepest depths of cynicism would be indifference.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Dec 29, 2023 10:16:47 GMT -5
well personally speaking i'm basically sh1tposting, but i can understand vaguely caring about it. i've been following awards for a while to find wads to play and such, i'd rather they weren't all around hot bullshit where your only options are purple prose by a bunch of self important jerkoffs or literal ai generated stuff with a dubious selection process. i can still do without them, i don't care much for awards in general and i definitely won't be putting myself in the line of fire, yet it seems everyone is legitimately doing their worst, and i can imagine some people are basically shitposting as well
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Post by hakros on Dec 29, 2023 13:45:37 GMT -5
Sorry but i have to be harsh with you again, because i don't like liars and frauds. Are those votes as legit as the "totaly not paid" likes and retweets you have going on for your "awards" on twitter? Where are these people who voted then? Your awards weren't announced neither here nor on doomworld, up until your imaginary voting was done by the looks of it. Octate second best wad of the year? That's laughable! Also best rookie map and Hypnos as the best rookie creator? It's so obvious that he was handpicked by you. Am i wrong? Because it looks like he's the only one nominated in these categories, i don't see others. You also only have 7 nominations for a single map of the year, which is pathetic and clearly handpicked by you, again. What is even more strange, the winner for creator of the year has 132 votes, but MyHouse, you know... the biggest and most popular thing to happen in the community this year, has only 35 votes. Did you have ChatGPT create that voting list too? Because it looks like it. Again, who are these people who voted? Because anyone can make a shitty list and add some numbers to it. I'm sorry but i'm having a hard time believing someone who buys likes on twitter, who uses ChatGPT to create his crappy awards and tries to pass it as a legit work (because he's stupid enough to believe people will buy that crap), can be honest about the whole thing. It's really hard for me to believe that someone as delusional as you, can get anyone on board for a legitimate voting. And sorry for bringing that up again, but you're a nobody in this community, there's no way you get even 5 people to vote in your clearly biased and cherrypicked nominations. That will be like if decide to make Doom Awards with less than a year of experience in the community... thankfully, i know my place. Edit: Oh, wait, i take one back. I see that you sort of announced the awards here all the way back in may. So for that i was wrong, but everything else i stand behind. Look, dude, I don't even know why I bother responding to you because you are rude, so this is going to be my last message. But honestly, if you are so incredibly stupid that you are criticizing our initiative without even having been there, I find it to be very mean-spirited behavior. And you're not just criticizing the prizes, but you're directly insulting me personally. You may not be aware (perhaps not), but 40oz partnered with us at the beginning of the year (and note that I said "us," because I am the administrator, but we are a group of 15 people). Anyone can register in the community and vote freely. The votes are few precisely because many people have not taken it seriously, as most of you have done. There have been many nominations, but others may have been lost, and it's true that there have been great projects this year, but if no one nominates them, then no one will be able to vote for them. Regarding the people who have voted, the community in which we hosted the awards this year has grown from less than 100 users to about 600, so there have been at least 500 people interested. The list of nominations on the website is the list that was on DISCORD, but now that we have changed servers, it has been deleted, but for the following years, we plan to maintain it between the different editions. We were on the temporary server to see if the initiative was of interest and would continue into the next year, and since it has been, we have created our own server. If you are interested in participating instead of talking nonsense, here is the link: doomawards.com/discordPS: This is the people who have participated in and/or been interested in the initiative.  FYI |
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Post by suzerduzer on Dec 29, 2023 16:11:12 GMT -5
I like the idea behind this event (user voting on popular wads that is), but I don't really understand the reason behind the obvious AI generated reviews of the wads that were showcased. No language model is able to write an interesting / unique review of any artistic medium, and especially not one as niche as Doom modding. I think the reception to this event would have been a lot better if there wasn't any write ups at all, especially since you (or any staff members) couldn't at least write up a single paragraph of original thoughts that discuss the project that won. Hopefully next year things will go smoother for this event, you can only go up from here I suppose.
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