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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2024 23:14:21 GMT -5
See, the ironic thing about all this is that none of you need to explain your opinions to me in yet another way for me to know your bigoted values about people unlike you. you repeat it over and over and over and over again with the hope that if you make just one more post it will be convincing. Its not. I understand you. Its a shitty way to carry yourself in life. Youre going to meet people who have different values than you whether you like it or not. And by announcing these opinions you are more likely than not denying yourself very valuable and fruitful friendships with people. And by extension, you're denying those friendships from other people in the community that probably dont have your same values. If you want to have a community where you can all be assholes together and keep everyone who gets their feelies hurt out of it, this is why I proposed expanding dumbworld. Is anyone surprised who got their feelies hurt the most about this? i assure you if you didn't wield the banhammer no one would care about your condescending bullshit either. you openly support (at least the ideology of) the very same degenerates that have thrown most of your userbase in post hell for idological reasons in the first place, then you yourself pretend any of this is about the fuckin game, or even (oh the irony) building communities on mutual respect, etc. i'm assuming if these retards cared about anything other than their perceived standing in some online community of randos (truly the eternal jannies), they wouldn't need to classify everything they slightly disagree with as le hate speech and banish people to the ninth circle of hell for it. i'm also assuming your sort of behavior usually doesn't come from people who are able to practice what they preach about their own ideological perversion of open mindedness, as in building meaningful relationships with people, etc. just replyin to the obvious ad hominem here, since i'm guessing facts and logic have already beaten you to a pulp at this point. please throw me in dumbworld with le based slav when the time comes, oh great leader lmao and yea i'm deleting accounts so i don't have to read your shitty pms ever again tbh. imagine thinking you can't ban evade
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Post by TheFantasticFungiFan on Jun 16, 2024 0:43:47 GMT -5
I don't even want to get involved in these kinds of debates, but personally if I was in charge Doomworld, I would just enact a no sexuality/politics/religion rule. Other than those things being brought up incidentally, I would not allow those things to be discussed. Doomworld is a casual place with people of all ages, and such heavy topics simply do not suit the kind of website that it is.
But I would also never start a project like that on Doomworld even if I was the gayest and proudest man alive, because the inevitable drama that follows isn't worth any kind of project. These kinds of topics obviously create grudges between people, and that ends up spilling over even if people don't realize it:
>Bob creates thread where he states his opinion on sexuality. >Joe disagrees with Bob and makes a shitpost/insult. >Joe gets a warning, Bob's thread is closed. >Joe and Bob target each other in other threads over petty shit. >Other members are annoyed. >Joe and/or Bob have a dumb argument and other people pick a side. >Robert, a great mapper, can't keep his mouth shut and joins in. >Robert is banned for defending Joe. >Other members are pissed that Robert is gone. >Members that are pissed are more likely to start drama in the future. >Nothing good has happened.
One side might think "hooray, we weeded out someone we don't like", but even if the person was a complete asshole, they might have also been a great mapper. And nobody would have known they were an asshole if they weren't lured into an argument about an obviously controversial topic. "What I don't know can't hurt me".
Personally I have no problem with the project that is being discussed, because I'm fine with people doing whatever. Doom mapping is a low form of art obviously, but it's still "art" (or at least entertainment) and I think people should be able to express themselves freely through art/entertainment. But when it comes to sex/politics/religion, I believe it should either be "anything goes" or "don't do it". No matter what your beliefs are, when it comes to those three topics there's always going to be trouble when you start picking and choosing. You're always going to be fighting the other side. And I'd rather not have that on Doomworld.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 16, 2024 2:14:45 GMT -5
Dunno about the others but most of what I wrote was not an opinion (except for that bit about the rainbow symbol) or a repeat of anything I said earlier. I was adressing your points specifically. Everything everyone's posted here is opinion based on how they view things. I personally have no problem with gay or trans people like some others here. One of my close childhood friends is trans even. It's the ideology I take the most issue with. Two separate things that have overlap. But when it comes to sex/politics/religion, I believe it should either be "anything goes" or "don't do it". No matter what your beliefs are, when it comes to those three topics there's always going to be trouble when you start picking and choosing. Yup. Being able to talk about things I have interest in talking about without lopsided enforcement is why I'm here not there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 3:01:10 GMT -5
Youre going to meet people who have different values than you whether you like it or not. And by announcing these opinions you are more likely than not denying yourself very valuable and fruitful friendships with people. And by extension, you're denying those friendships from other people in the community that probably dont have your same values. If you want to have a community where you can all be assholes together and keep everyone who gets their feelies hurt out of it It's almost as if freedom of speech is a thing; I won't speak for others, but I myself can openly argue or debate with someone I disagree with, it's just that you seem to single out one "targeted" (as you say) group to protect from their opinions and ideologies being challenged. If one needs protection to display or justify their identity, how feeble is it then?
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jun 16, 2024 3:23:50 GMT -5
^Based. Also isn't it ironic how you 40oz defend this kind of behavior (which is completely normal btw) when it's done by the "good" guys - ie when that stupid rainbow CP started, but when the straight people say or do anything remotely similar they're bigots/assholes/whatever. And just to clarify by "completely normal" I didn't mean hating gays, lesbians, etc for no reason, I meant it's totally fine to have incompatible views and treat people accordingly. Let's say I'm a Christian and my faith forbids me from accepting homosexuality as normal. Does that make me an asshole in your book?
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Post by TimeOfDeath on Jun 16, 2024 9:47:06 GMT -5
I don't even want to get involved in these kinds of debates, but personally if I was in charge Doomworld, I would just enact a no sexuality/politics/religion rule. Banning sexuality would be an act of violence towards the gender people and contribute to their genocide by trying to suppress their identity. Let's say I'm a Christian and my faith forbids me from accepting homosexuality as normal. You'd be a nazi who's contributing to the violent genocide of the letter people. The letter people are a vulnerable species that needs everyone's help to stay protected (this isn't directed at 40oz, I'm just writing les publications de merde). It's ok if you're muslim, though. Btw, during my one-month ban I got banned indefinitely for my post from a few days ago: 60276I swear they did this on purpose just so they didn't have to throw me a 20-year anniversary party in 4 months (joke). Yeah, actual genocide is violence, but denying cosmetic surgery and being misgendered/deadnamed isn't genocide or violence. Saying "fight genocide" isn't the problem, it's the "by any means necessary" part that's the problem, that's the kind of shit that gets you put on a list. I might be a buffoon, but at least I understand what words actually mean.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 16, 2024 10:03:27 GMT -5
Yeah, actual genocide is violence, but denying cosmetic surgery and being misgendered/deadnamed isn't genocide or violence. Yup. People are just taking this way too far for us all to sit down and shut up. Here in the states they are charging kids with a felony hate crime for leaving tire marks from scooters on a rainbow crosswalk. I imagine things are even more ridiculous up in Trudeau land. This is preferential treatment and comparing it to genocide is insulting to the true horrors of history. The bubble wrap needs to be removed once and for all.
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Post by dr_st on Jun 16, 2024 11:09:08 GMT -5
I would just enact a no sexuality/politics/religion rule Well, I can definitely say that the most pleasant online communities I've been a part of were exactly those where these things weren't discussed. And the worst communities were those where these things were discussed extensively, especially by moderators. I cannot say whether the formula requires there to be hard rules against such topics, or moderators simply actively discouraging them, by locking/removing threads, or if some communities just naturally steer towards such crap. I really don't know. However, it does seem clear that a key point is that at least the forum staff members themselves should exercise extreme restraint, and not get involved in such discussions themselves. Because they set the example for the rest.
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Post by Bob Page on Jun 16, 2024 11:21:37 GMT -5
Btw, during my one-month ban I got banned indefinitely for my post from a few days ago: 60276I swear they did this on purpose just so they didn't have to throw me a 20-year anniversary party in 4 months (joke). Yeah, actual genocide is violence, but denying cosmetic surgery and being misgendered/deadnamed isn't genocide or violence. Saying "fight genocide" isn't the problem, it's the "by any means necessary" part that's the problem, that's the kind of shit that gets you put on a list. I might be a buffoon, but at least I understand what words actually mean. Imagine an internet forum whose moderators actively comb through individual posts that some of its members make on smaller lesser known forums, literally searching for anything they can possibly find to use as justification for banning that individual on their own forum. Then when they ban that person, they include a note which inaccurately depicts what the banned person said, followed by an immature ad hominem attack. That's so totally pathetic and maladjusted that I don't know what to say. I can't begin to imagine the misery, much of it self-imposed, these people feel in their daily lives.
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Post by xeepeep on Jun 16, 2024 11:26:57 GMT -5
Since now we know DW moderators are keeping tabs on this thread, ESSELFORTIUM HAVE SEX WITH ME PLEASE(You can be top or bottom, either is fine really) EDIT: WHOEVER MUTED ME YOU LOOK LIKE THIS
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Post by nnn✓ork on Jun 16, 2024 13:13:03 GMT -5
*Scratches chin agressively*. Groomworld is not very good at this, are they... ...
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Post by thelokk on Jun 16, 2024 13:22:18 GMT -5
Honestly, at this point I think it's safe to put Doom into the "better enjoyed without the community around it" box.
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Post by nnn✓ork on Jun 16, 2024 13:35:16 GMT -5
UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG (only a minor edit) I'm only kinda alittle drunk.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 13:40:22 GMT -5
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jun 16, 2024 14:12:19 GMT -5
I'm only kinda alittle drunk. This isn't a dive bar. Sober up so you can go buy some crack.
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Post by SilverMiner on Jun 16, 2024 14:15:38 GMT -5
The one who posted about that project pretty much should be banned for starting a holy war
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Post by SilverMiner on Jun 16, 2024 14:21:06 GMT -5
just kidding
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 14:54:56 GMT -5
To keep the thread on-topic - I once got banned after saying that CC4 is boring (in my opinion). I don't remember was it a temp or perma-ban, but it's comical nevertheless.
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Post by thelokk on Jun 16, 2024 15:28:36 GMT -5
To keep the thread on-topic - I once got banned after saying that CC4 is boring (in my opinion). I don't remember was it a temp or perma-ban, but it's comical nevertheless. You dissed a Cacoward winner which includes a good bunch of the community's darlings, are you actually surprised that all the big honchos got their briefs / panties in a bunch? CC4 is indeed boring af btw. CC2 is better.
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Post by thundercunt on Jun 16, 2024 15:59:10 GMT -5
Remember when Skulltag forums used to add a "Colossal Faggot" watermark to the avatars of banned users? Those were fun times. I can't believe the same community is losing their shit because of something so innocuous as someone criticizing a delusional furry that believes that trans genocide is a real thing
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Post by VICE on Jun 16, 2024 18:47:08 GMT -5
Hi lurking DW moderators. 👋 Check out these all-inclusive ultra-progressive artistic expresions: Edit: Muting me is not a rebuttal.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2024 23:51:20 GMT -5
You dissed a Cacoward winner which includes a good bunch of the community's darlings, are you actually surprised that all the big honchos got their briefs / panties in a bunch? Back when I just got that ban - I was, but as of now it's not surprising at all, now that I'm familiar with DW moderation's temperament.
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Post by RastaManGames on Jun 17, 2024 3:39:17 GMT -5
Many years ago, I presume, SoyKid wasn't a personal cocksucker of Dicksucklotl/Eatshitlotl.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2024 5:40:16 GMT -5
This reminds me: He changed his registration date when he became a DW mod, kek.
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Post by thelokk on Jun 17, 2024 6:41:18 GMT -5
This reminds me: He changed his registration date when he became a DW mod, kek. Make sure to tag him next time, it's no fun unless you trigger one of his meltdowns.
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