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Post by Doomer Boards on Oct 2, 2023 9:06:28 GMT -5
A few days ago, GZDoom has been updated to GZDoom 4.11.0. Among a swath of changes, one notable change which has sparked some confusion is the removal of many sector light modes in the user preferences options. Some users were disappointed with this new change, as it interrupts some of their maps in progress that were designed with these specific lighting models in mind. The reason for this change was left in a comment in the update thread, in that some of these modes were removed since they existed for backwards compatibility and are, decidedly, no longer relevant. And that the MAPINFO parameter for a mapper to force a particular lighting mode is not allowed anymore, so that end users can adjust for better performance.
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Post by Doomer Boards on Oct 2, 2023 9:07:22 GMT -5
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SilverMiner
You're trying to say you like DOS better than me, right?
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Post by SilverMiner on Oct 2, 2023 9:40:50 GMT -5
I used legacy mode mostly
Also gz is bloated as hell, so I don't update since 1.8.2
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Post by wernergoldberg on Oct 2, 2023 9:43:28 GMT -5
i find it rather ironic that gzdoom devs pretend to care about performance, light modes on old gpus are really the least of their problems
but i used software anyway
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Post by thundercunt on Oct 2, 2023 12:10:03 GMT -5
I understood that mappers can still enforce many of the old light modes through MAPINFO (except for two of them) but players aren't allowed to select one of the old light modes from the options menu, which seems to be a bizarre design choice.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Oct 2, 2023 22:55:35 GMT -5
Good example of why I stopped using gzdoom. That and at one point all the newer builds only displayed black and white for me. Lack of backward compatibility just doesn't make sense for a source port to me and having to download specific versions for different mods wasn't something I could be bothered to do. Don't feel like I'm missing out on anything.
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Post by wernergoldberg on Oct 3, 2023 2:45:27 GMT -5
i'm too much of a gameplay purist to use it if the map doesn't require it. but you might be missing out on some good shit from time to time
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Herr Dethnout
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Post by Herr Dethnout on Oct 3, 2023 21:51:35 GMT -5
Remember, there's was a fucking war for the default filter in GZDoom and the devs could care less...
But they change this, and it affects backward compatibility because XD.
Holy fuck GZDoom never stops to amaze me.
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StodgyAyatollah
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Oct 4, 2023 8:09:29 GMT -5
I've realized just how many upcoming commercial games are using gzdoom. Probably close to a dozen I've seen. Makes me think it's being looked at as more an engine than a source port at this point. It's easy to work with but damn if everything made with it just ends up feeling the same.
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Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Oct 4, 2023 16:25:21 GMT -5
You will play by the ZGroom devs' detail-deleting personal preferences and be happy. And remember, Offensive language - even unintentionylly offensive language - can hurt people just as much as bad sexual conduct. Marisa the magician pedo virtually molesting and sexually harassing kids. EDIT NOTE: Marisa the Magician is not be confused with the unrelated Marisa who started ZDoom. |
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Big C
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Post by Big C on Dec 16, 2023 4:23:30 GMT -5
I really wish I knew what Graf Zahl's deal is. My experience is even the staff at the ZDF have to not-so-politely tell him to behave sensibly on occasion. ZDoom/GZDoom is a pretty nifty engine...When its devs/staffs aren't doing something headache-inducing.
Also, hi, first post!
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Post by morse on Dec 16, 2023 18:54:58 GMT -5
Since I like to map for the Alien Trilogy TC/Aliens Eradication TC this decision hurts my soul. Dark mode really helps the atmosphere.
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Gokuma
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Post by Gokuma on Dec 17, 2023 19:23:41 GMT -5
Since I like to map for the Alien Trilogy TC/Aliens Eradication TC this decision hurts my soul. Dark mode really helps the atmosphere. I recently updated to 4.11 after some sound components inexplicably broke down over the course of a couple days in 4.5. I just replaced that with 4.10 from before that bullshit update. Under GZDoom downloads, I just clicked archive, and got it from here: zdoom.org/files/gzdoom/bin/ |
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