consumers say "doom needs a remake!"

People have already remade the base game countless times with new styled versions of its maps, weapons, and monsters, with high-res textures. If they want that stuff but Doom Eternal style, I wouldn't be surprised if anyone's already working on it as a Doom Eternal mod since apparently editors have cracked the game open and now finally making custom content, no thanks to Barfthesda. I also wouldn't be surprised if Doom Year Zero is in fact an original Doom remake, going back to the Doom Slayer in his original dimension before he became the slayer with an enhanced suit, which was Doom -> Doom 2 -> Doom 64 before the dimension of Doom 2016 found him. Or maybe it's something between Doom 64 and Doom 2016 taking place in the dimension of Doom 2016/Eternal.

But yes, the consumers are clueless spastic trendy idiots.

Also I think Kevin Cloud is the only original dev still at id.

I thought 2016 was a pretty good game, and was the only game in the series where I actually cared at all about the plot. Eternal was a clusterfuck, and I think a lot of things that it did don't really line up with what I'd like out of a Doom game. It's still like a 7/10 overall in terms of the actual experience, though. But even with my lukewarm feelings towards Eternal, I'd rather have a sequel to that than a remake. They would have to do something really unique for me to care. Perferably (if they do remake it) it should include a lot of content - Doom 1+2 and Final Doom, if possible. In general, remakes are kind of a downer most of the time. It's money and time and manpower that i'd rather see used to craft something new. The best remakes are the Resident Evil games. Even Resident Evil 4 Remake blew me out of the water. I was expecting the original game with new mechanics and graphics, and I got a whole new game that compliments the original without replacing. That's the most important part of a remake for me. If a remake is just the same game but updated, there's no reason to play the original any more, and that sucks. At least when they remake movies they aren't trying to replace the original film. They did a shitty remake of Psycho with Vince Vaughn that was quite literally a LINE FOR LINE remake. That concept is dumb as hell, but that's the kind of thinking that a lot of developers apply to remakes of video games. It's possible to create a new, unique experience with a remake, but most developers don't even want to try.

What do they mean "made by Id"? They are talking about reuniting the original team for a remake?

Why is bethesda avoids so much of making brand new game with brand new name?
Why mix audiences of Doom and so called nu games into a mush?

hey, starfield! the game somehow nobody cares about…

I wanted to reply to this thread when I first saw it awhile ago but forgot to do that. So, anyway... I can think of two reasons why there's so many people who'd want to play a remake of Doom. The first reason is that not many people care about mods and other user content in general. For example, there's quite a few quality mods for Deus Ex, but you probably wouldn't know anything about them unless you were a hardcore Deus Ex fan. And these mods aren't like your typical weapon mods for Doom, they actually feel more like expansions - they have fully voiced dialogues, different storylines and they slightly alter gameplay in one way or another improving upon the basic Deus Ex formula and yet... They're not that popular. Take a look at The Nameless Mod - it's one of the most famous mods for Deus Ex, it's critically acclaimed (it was named a mod of the year by ModDB) and everyone who cares even a tiny bit about Deus Ex modding scene knows about it... It only received 60 000+ downloads over the course of FOURTEEN YEARS (to put that into perspective, Auger;Zenith received eleven thousand downloads since it was uploaded in 2021). I googled it and the original Deus Ex sold 1.1 million copies, so not even 10% of the people who bought the game played mods for it. I can think of many reasons why that is, but the two most likely ones in my opinion are these: you should care about a game a lot to be intersted in playing mods for it and the people who think Doom needs a modernized remake probably don't like the base game that much (and they'd probably prefer playing it with weapon mods rather than playing PWADs) and the other reason is that Doom, Deus Ex and other games from 90s and 00s are old and majority of the players nowadays either never heard about them or just don't care.

P.S. sorry if this post seems disjointed and it was hard to read, I wrote this after work right before going to sleep, but I really wanted to share my thoughts about this.

tbh the things that make the original desu ex good aren't necessarily the game mechanics themselves (they can be "complex" and "emergent" more than almost any other game even now tho), it's mostly that the writing, deadpan schizo delivery and level design are almost unparalleled in the medium, i've tried some deus ex mods but none of them felt remotely like the base game does. maybe cuz i've replayed it 10 times already
with doom (2) there was and still is a lot of untapped potential without necessarily taking a genius to at least match the base content (which is still good imo)

i like gmdx, not sure if i prefer it to vanilla tho, having useless stats contributes to the classic rpg vibe. but you reminded me, i might try hardcore mode someday since gmdx on realistic isn't really difficult anymore