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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 13:48:26 GMT -5
Scariest one you've seen?
I like the Exorcist, that scared the shit it me...hehe
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Post by TOS on Sept 5, 2017 14:11:17 GMT -5
The scariest one I've seen is the Exorcist.
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Post by 40oz on Sept 6, 2017 8:25:58 GMT -5
The last one I saw was "The Visit" which is a paranormal activity-like spin off. These kids bring their own video camera to a weekend at their grandparents house whom they've never met before and it turns out they're fucking crazy/possessed or whatever. The jump scares and loud noises make it startling but if I attempted to describe any of the scenes like the grandma running around naked or the old man storing his own shit in the cabin it would sound completely fucking retarded (because it is)
That's kinda killed horror movies for me for a while. It seems Hollywood seems to go hard on the possessed and paranormal stuff, and the movie trailers with the quick cuts and screams and noises really get under my skin for all the wrong reasons. I really miss slasher films.
Do they not make those anymore because all these crime scene investigation related tv shows make it seem impossible to get away with murder these days?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2017 8:36:27 GMT -5
I'm still trying to understand the appeal of horror. Are you guys looking forward to that UNPLEASANT stressful feeling? Do you want to be scared and traumatized for the rest of the day? Is that some sort of a self-challenge, like you're trying to stay calm no matter what they show you and you feel good about yourself if you manage to do it? Do you need to see something horrible and disgusting because you're so desensitized by the media that nothing else is exciting anymore? Are you so stressed out that only in horror movies you feel at home, while love comedies seem completely fake? Do you have the world so much that you feel like only horror movies portray it realistically? I'm not necessarily saying that horror fans are all psychos (ok, maybe a little bit), I'm just wondering if this genre can be explained to someone who doesn't find it appealing.
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Post by TOS on Sept 6, 2017 20:33:54 GMT -5
It's curiosity my friend. We all want to experience shit that we really don't want to experience ourselves...but we want to know what it's like.
If you drive by a bad car accident...don't you look? Hell, for all you know, there can be a headless child hanging out of the windshield...but we all look anyway.
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Post by Justince on Sept 6, 2017 21:12:41 GMT -5
I'm still trying to understand the appeal of horror. Are you guys looking forward to that UNPLEASANT stressful feeling? Do you want to be scared and traumatized for the rest of the day? Is that some sort of a self-challenge, like you're trying to stay calm no matter what they show you and you feel good about yourself if you manage to do it? It's just entertainment. I think you're taking this a little too seriously. I always crack up laughing during horror flicks, due to the absurdity of it all and the stupid lead characters.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2017 14:48:18 GMT -5
It's curiosity my friend. We all want to experience shit that we really don't want to experience ourselves And we like to shit our pants from being scared
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Post by 40oz on Sept 10, 2017 9:09:27 GMT -5
I just saw the new IT last night -- fucking awesome movie. Definitely recommended. Everyone should watch it, even if you're not generally a horror movie fan.
I never saw the original, so I could be speaking out of turn, but the story was very well put together, the characters were very relatable, and the movie was hilarious, disturbing, and shocking in a lot of ways.
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Post by dn on Sept 10, 2017 9:17:12 GMT -5
The original TV mini-series thing is really only notable for Tim Curry being fucking awesome. It's definitely a product of its time and, Curry aside, has not aged well.
Actually, now that I think about it, Tim 'Strokey Horror Show' Curry hasn't aged well either.
I don't mind King, but he's one of those novelists that consistently fails to stick the landing. Spoiler warning, the ending of It was another weak-ass effort.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 11:03:09 GMT -5
I'll take psychological horror over slasher horror any day.
Body horror is great too. Stuff like The Fly and Videodrome. But since that stuff relates to our own existential concerns (aging, disease, pain, death) it's actually more of a psychological genre anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2017 11:45:21 GMT -5
I'm just wondering if this genre can be explained to someone who doesn't find it appealing. Some horror movies are pretty thought provoking. It's not always mindless killing and torture porn. Depends on which ones you see. Some people like the black humor of comedy horror, and just want to laugh and be grossed out. Other times it's because a movie will tackle a creepy subject (like psychosis, trauma, being stalked, etc) and explore it further. Unfortunate issues that affect some people in life, but aren't experienced or understood by everyone. I'm not a huge fan of anime, so I'm wondering if you can explain why you enjoy it so much? What's the appeal for you personally, as someone who watches it often?
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Post by 40oz on Sept 10, 2017 12:38:00 GMT -5
Good point, i don't really like torture porn type stuff. People say they loved the Saw series but I couldn't get into it. It was just too disturbing and painful to watch.
I do wonder sometimes if an appeal to watching people get murdered or terrorized or paralyzed by fear relies on some deeply rooted psychological issues that have been repressed or not fully recovered from. Like maybe the viewer has trouble being in tune with their feelings so they need something really extreme and spine tingling to make them feel something. But I didn't really have a very troubled childhood. I just remember being very bored and that normal everyday life was too boring. Thats what makes Doom appeal to me too.
I think horror is probably the most fun type of film to shoot. Hiding clues in the frames of each shot, and attempting to focus the audience attention on one thing so you can blindside them with a frightening shock from another. Its kind of like playing a game with the director and trying to anticipate what they're going to do next. That's why shitty horror movies are usually ones where you can see the plot twists and hazards from a mile away. The best ones really lead you to feel like you've become the character and experience their trauma first hand (for a brief period of time, instead of the potential mind-fuckery that could last a lifetime if you actually had to deal with it)
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Post by 40oz on Sept 10, 2017 12:42:47 GMT -5
Also I lied about The Visit, I think. If "Split" counts as a horror movie, that was the last one I saw. (The movie where some girls get kidnapped by a guy with multiple personality disorder)
It was very cool but I was a little disappointed that they mentioned that this guy has like 50 different personalities and throughout the length of the film they only explore like 4 or 5 of them. It left me wanting to see the concept of evil villains with multiple personalities explored further. I don't know if there are many movies like it, but there's a lot of great potential for it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2017 18:29:11 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of anime, so I'm wondering if you can explain why you enjoy it so much? What's the appeal for you personally, as someone who watches it often? Anime is really really good at creating lovable characters you can become a fan of after seeing them for just a few seconds. Modern artists have mastered the art of charm points almost to a frightening point. A lot of stuff in drama anime can even feel like emotional manipulation because it's just so heartbreaking to see these adorable characters going through hard times. Often they are so idealized and yet believable that it's extremely common for people to fall in love with them and feel like real humans fucking suck in comparison. That's a dangerous territory, but if you don't lose your mind over some imaginary creatures they can give you comfort and be a great source of inspiration. Most anime takes place in Japan or at least has traces of Japanese culture in it. To many of us that culture seems so unique it's almost like it exists in another world, and yet it actually all comes from the same planet we're on. It's fascinating. Anime has tons of tropes and artistic techniques not found elsewhere, it's a rich and kind of isolated universe, and that isolation makes it more attractive in a way. Once you take a peek, you just want to explore more and more. The medium is generally more optimistic than film or literature. There is a lot of "believe in your dreams", "all humans are inherently good but some need help", and stuff like that. Some of us are rather sick of all the cynicism in the modern world, so it's nice and refreshing to have this source of positive ideas. But this also means that you probably need to possess a certain degree of infantility in order to enjoy anime. I think this is a big turnoff for many people and it's one of these things that make anime sort of a niche thing. The typical art style is arguably much more attractive than that found in Western cartoons. And while I said that anime is often infantile, at the same time it's not really seen as a kids thing by the public and it freely explores serious or even taboo themes that you won't typically see in animation made in other countries. Japan has an incredible voice acting industry. I think in USA and Europe voice acting is usually treated more like a side activity for artists that generally do other stuff, but in Japan there are tons of people who do nothing but voice acting, and as a result they developed insane skills. There are very few voice actors who are hated, which obviously can't be said about movie actors for example. Speaking of movies, there is something about them that is just inherently fake. I mean, you're always looking at people who are pretending to be something they are not. This is not the case with anime since everything is drawn\imaginary from the beginning. Nobody is trying to fool you, and that can really enhance the believability of everything in a strange way. The characters don't seem fake, they simply exist in another reality, and inside of that reality everything they do is 100% genuine. At least that's how I perceive it. Something like that. I'm not sure if any of this is convincing... Now I understand what position I put you guys into when I asked about the appeal of horror. It's not easy to "explain yourself".
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Post by dn on Sept 11, 2017 22:15:36 GMT -5
Actually an interesting viewpoint. You've basically provided a bulletpoint list of every reason why I really don't care for anime.
This isn't a personal criticsm, it's just that you've managed to take pretty much every word I'd use to describe my loathing for the genre (detached, infantile, isolationist, retardedly optimistic and occasionally manipulative) and explained why you think those aspects are good. And you've simultaneously explained why you think the things that I value as a story teller (cynism, melodrama, a solid realism and ugly, ugly characters) and explained why *you* don't value them in return.
It's like looking into a weird mirror. Congratulations, you are bizarro darknation.
As an aside, and to nail it to the OP, all this might explain why animie horror has never really worked as a genre. All horror is basically rooted in melodrama, and the melodramatic twisting of reality. Everything from Dracula onwards is drenched in it. Gothic literature *is* melodrama. Horror is atmosphere, and atmosphere is the term humans use when they ascribe human emotions to an environment.
That's, like, the deepest observation I've made this month. Enjoy it, you've learned something.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 11:34:50 GMT -5
Plus how do you scare people with a cartoon? Just the art style alone is a disadvantage. I'm sure it's still possible, but much harder. You need something that looks realistic.
That was a pretty great description though memfis. I like Shin Chan, if that counts as anime. Probably not, because it's more of an Adult Swim parody type thing with swearing. Heh, I find most anime super irritating. The voices are so incredibly high pitched and girly, with blindingly bright colors. Also, every character has eyeballs the size of your hand.
Fuck you deathevokation for posting this on Doomworld and getting this shit song stuck in my head. It is actual aids of the body and soul.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2019 13:09:12 GMT -5
Scariest one you've seen? I like the Exorcist, that scared the shit it me...hehe I agree, that was a really terrifying movie! I remember seeing it as a kid.
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Post by thundercunt on Aug 30, 2019 17:33:57 GMT -5
from someone that is addicted to horror movies since age 4, I say that the only movies that managed to unsettle me a bit after age 10 are asian. both Ju-On (the curse and the grudge) make The Conjuring look like Beetlejuice. Kairo have some of the scariest scenes ever put on screen, watch alone and on the dark if you want to be really freaked out (sadly it becomes a mess after the third act). I also recommend Noroi if you are into found-footage, very atmospheric shit, but flawed by some baffling bad CGI.
avoid Ringu if you want to be scared, although it's a good movie
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2019 23:40:10 GMT -5
Hausu?
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