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Post by 40oz on Mar 6, 2023 9:22:08 GMT -5
If you could get one doom mapper (living or dead) to resurface from an unofficial retirement and make doom maps again, who would you like to see?
I think id like to see what Kim Andre Malde would be making today.
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Post by xeepeep on Mar 6, 2023 9:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by JadingTsunami on Mar 6, 2023 10:13:58 GMT -5
Jim Flynn. I think it would be interesting to see what he'd come up with using a modern editor and tricks.
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Post by middleclassworm on Mar 6, 2023 12:19:27 GMT -5
Death-Destiny. Dark Plutonia looked cool on screens, and "Satan's Angel" is a very impressive map (especially for a direct homage), but alas.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2023 12:19:46 GMT -5
Erik Alm.
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Post by SilverMiner on Mar 6, 2023 13:59:57 GMT -5
Sam Woodman
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Post by 40oz on Mar 6, 2023 20:50:21 GMT -5
Sigvatr, just for the lulz. Also he teased a mapset that used a custom source port and it looked really cool. No one likes to hear this, but me fucking too! In my private messages with him, he was unapologetically aware that his trolling was revolting. But his ambition to create the best doom maps the world has ever seen was completely authentic. I know I backed up some messages I had with him a long time ago, because I found them so fascinating. One comment of his I remember in 2011, he was telling me his projects would have exit rooms right in around the start and his objective was to make the maps so good that players wouldn't want to leave. He programmed his own tools for generating really good textures and started a community project he never followed through with called Annhilator, which is similar in model to what I do now with DBP. He made a bunch of new textures and left volunteers to make maps with them. The dude was definitely a neurotic basement dweller that fits the mold for the worst misanthropic hacker/gamer stereotype you can imagine and he's probably become one with the machines now. But if he and I were working peacefully together, doomer boards project would be fucking legendary.
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Post by hex11 on Mar 6, 2023 22:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2023 17:39:51 GMT -5
All right, so we know what kind of maps we can expect from the latter-days Romero, but what about the latter-days American McGee?
I mean, come on:
Hell Beneath Unruly Evil Underhalls The Gantlet The Focus The Waste Tunnels The Crusher Dead Simple The Inmost Dens The Catacombs
If you've just read this, American, get back in the game and make some maps!
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Post by optimus on Mar 8, 2023 9:55:18 GMT -5
Roger Ritenour (author of Earth.wad and Phobos.wad)
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Post by 40oz on Mar 8, 2023 11:21:52 GMT -5
I like McGee's maps too. I wish he would have made more of Doom 2's techbase maps. The Focus is really good and it would be cool to see how he would make it again with the current day mapping tools.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Mar 11, 2023 1:25:36 GMT -5
Plenty of mappers it would be cool to see return to pick up where they left off but personally I would love to see what goofy shit good ol' Sandy Peterson would make today with less constraints, time or technical. The fact he had a lot of output in a short time frame with the commercial games then was essentially cut off from the mapping trends that emerged and faded over the decades would give him a sort of blank slate. Couple that with the way his mind works and I think we'd see some very interesting and unconventional stuff.
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Post by deathevokation on Mar 11, 2023 1:59:20 GMT -5
All right, so we know what kind of maps we can expect from the latter-days Romero, but what about the latter-days American McGee? I mean, come on: Hell Beneath Unruly Evil Underhalls The Gantlet The Focus The Waste Tunnels The Crusher Dead Simple The Inmost Dens The CatacombsIf you've just read this, American, get back in the game and make some maps! he was the mastermind behind American Mcgee's Alice btw, the second one was great too but EA cut more than half the content and weapons out of it cuz of deadlines and threatening to cut funds in favor of their other games when it started becoming an art project.. but you can feel it's his work.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Mar 11, 2023 3:02:49 GMT -5
American also talked about his interest in a sort of hyper-casualization he would like to see in games when it comes to his current stance on game difficulty. This can be found on Nirvana's podcast with him. I enjoyed his maps but because of that I personally don't have any interest in what he would do today. He also said that he has no interest in working on the next Alice game despite his efforts to try and get it made.
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Post by Doomguy 2000 on Mar 12, 2023 20:40:37 GMT -5
Doug the Eagle or Wills for me.
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