One Humanity (New Romero Doom 2 level for Ukrainian Charity)

You can criticise the map all you want. I have done so.

But I think it makes this community look bad when people question Romero's intentions or integrity. Stuff like: "he's rich enough to donate himself", that "he is just doing this for media coverage or his own ego", or even suggesting that he might pocket the money himself. Even wondering whether not buying this would be supporting Putin.

A lot of people are distressed because of the war, and are looking for ways to contribute. Romero decided to do what he is most well known for: making Doom

Yeah, people here keep saying that. Meanwhile, there's plenty of people who don't want to play DBPs or join DB because of this stuff.

If doomer boards becomes a place where we have to care what other people (especially outsiders) say about us and base what we say on that, there would be no reason for me to remain here or consider supporting this place in any way, including via testing of DBPs.

The freedom of speech being free of consequences such as bans is raison d'etre of this board, per my admittedly subjective view. Specifically, it is my reason for registering and choosing to stay here in first place.

This is a fair point of contention.

On one hand, I don't blanket anyone under the representation of "the doomer boards community." The posts people make here belong to the members that make them. I don't want this forum to be filled with like-minded thoughts, ideas, concepts or experiences outside of just liking Doom. I really despise the use of "we" and "us" language in people's posts. I know my views don't reflect the majority of the views of people here, and likewise, theirs do not reflect mine. That is a constant point of friction when we need to feel like we align on things. This forum may never be really stable for that reason. My hopes that are in the future, it would be impossible to accurately summarize the views of "the doomer boards community"

On the other hand, there are for sure, people who will never play DBP or join Doomer Boards on the basis of us being doomer boards and doomer boards is bad -- no further reasoning beyond that. I don't know what to say for small-brained people like that, but they exist and that's that.

But then there are further people who would likely get a sense of belonging by getting involved with mapping, creating art, creating music, playtesting, or any other doom-related creative endeavor, but because of their personal identity, they don't because they would legitimately expect to be a target of harassment. This can be clearly assessed through the content of the posts that are technically allowed here. That's a legitimate concern for me, because every doomer's well-being and safety* should not have to be compromised in order to be a member at this forum. Being around people who are bullying each other, ignoring each other (as in talking ABOUT them in front of them without talking TO them) or calling them out (referencing names of people who are not here to defend themselves) and otherwise treating each other like shit because of who they are really doesn't need to be protected under the "free speech" argument. Prospective Doomer Boards members should feel safe to participate in conversations and voice their opinions unfilteredly without expectation of being hurt.

(*) Not implying that anyone would go out of their way to find someone and physically injure them, but psychological warfare with people that are already depressed, anxious, or have other mental conditions, as doomers often do, should be recognized as a serious harm.

Welcome to the block list Pistoolkip. Enjoy being invisible.

Oh snap! Once again slamming somebody with the equivalent of "You're not invited to my birthday party." Psychologically devastating! I wonder what vigilant's version of Doomer Boards looks like... Any thread has gotta be so disjointed, just Xeep shitposts, 40 essayposts, and the rare comments here and there by Bob or dmslr or dn.

Also, the irony of
when he feels the need to block half of "us" on here. 

@pistoolkip I sorta understand where you're coming from, but you joined the boards like thirty something DBPs in, it's weird to ask everybody to change how they act just so that (presumably) you can feel better about being associated with DBPs. People are going to play DBPs or not play DBPs, join DB or not join DB, who cares.
Also no one's trying to intimidate Romero, wtf lol. I personally kinda like Romero but I'll criticize decisions of his I disagree with, just as I kinda like you, but I'll criticize certain opinions of yours.
I don't think you should spread falsehoods or attack people, but free speech is free speech. It's ridiculous to say "Think and say whatever you want except [insert restriction on free speech here]."

@dmslr, keep your mouth shut.

This millionaire has raised ~30,000 € via crowdfunding, what a fucking joke.
www.pcgamer.com/john-romeros-new-doom-2-level-raises-over-dollar27000-for-ukraine/

No sacrifice from Romero whatsoever, could've given 1 million from his ~20 million net worth to provide better help instead of feeding his ego and being greedy.

I wanna make a map where you go to his castle and kill him and give his money to the Ukrainian charity.

Wake me up when he donates at least 30k by himself.

Romero likely spends much more on a week maintaining his castle than whatever money was raised from the crowdfunding.

Despite whatever of this BS which most likely just wasn't thought out too well, whatever flaws aside, I still think Romero is a treasure to the community, with mapping again after 20 some years and releasing a load of old resources and general involvement and all. His most recent post was to commend the porting of Sigil to Sega 32X Doom and recommend an award.

Talking purely about this map, I think everything else I've seen from him is better and more fun, but this exists as a good semi-official challenge at least, however RNG luck based the drop into the Arch-Vile encounter may be.