White lives also matter: black man kills female taxi driver

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I'd miss you @vigilantdoomer, so if you think I actually wish you'd leave then that's wrong. I hope you can find some peace in whichever you decide to do.

You here these bullshit arguments time and time again, but you always leave out the most critical elements:


- Most economic murders are poor people killing middle-class people

- Through systematic and economic oppression and exploitation for many generations, black people are on average, a lot poorer than white people




It's not about black people killing white people, it's about society keeping blacks poor and desperate, and poor people commit more murders 

I never said white people prevent black people from getting richer.

But the capitalistic systems in place prevent the poor / lower classes from building a life for themselves and their children: if you're born poor, you will most likely stay poor.

Aspects like access to proper education, housing, healthcare, jobs, etc. People working 2 full-time jobs and barely able to put food on the table. And capitalist systems exploit the poor and keep them poor.

But it's not just companies that piss on the poor.


The US government was extremely racist towards black people up to and including during the Reagan administration. Some of these laws have been abolished because of affirmative action, yes, but black people today still have a lot more trouble getting access to government grants and programmes than white people do. But racist policies are often hidden by layers of bureaucracy, and based on other aspects: level of education, zip codes, hair styles (yes really) etc. 


Hair styles is just a dumb but true example: Black women don't get jobs because their hairstyles aren't representative enough. They're basically told to get a white woman's haircut. But that's extremely difficult and expensive with their hair types, if they even can find a hairdresser willing to cut them. Imagine being out of work and needing to spend €600 to get a hair cut to apply for a job...

It is a law:  link

Once again: I never said laws

Both government agencies and corporations treat blacks as inferiors on a systematic basis. That doesn't mean it's in writing, or they'll freely admit it. It's not one single big things: it's countless small things. Like how laws are enacted that make it difficult for some people to vote, without specifically stating who will be affected. 

And yes, they do ban many cultural significant black hairstyles


Natural Hair Discrimination

Last Week Tonight on Black Hair Discrimination

The March

i swear the internet is going to give me dementia some day. I have to explain this in every one of these political threads.

Fuck the left, and fuck the right. Get the idea that there needs to be a team for every stupid thing that happens in the world and that you and I have to pick one.

You dont pick a position. You deal with every thing case by case. Look at the fucking facts, understand it from every angle and make your own assessment.

not the news that paints the United States like its a fucking reality TV show. The views expressed in news articles, left-leaning or right, dont reflect the views of 75% of people I know when asked. Everyone has their own lived experience. The remaining 25% usually are either too dumb to manage their own lives or are too overworked and frustrated to challenge themselves to understand things thoroughly.

My understanding of racism comes from personal life experiences. I used to have an extended family member who is black and was murdered by four white teenagers. The evidence proved that the murder weapon was stolen, and recovered text messages showed that it was corroborated and planned days in advance. Despite that, two of the kids got off with almost nothing and the other two got a few years in a juvenile detention center. For PREMEDITATED MURDER. The defendants' families had money and could afford a decent lawyer, and the murder took place in a public park in a predominantly white neighborhood. I went most of my life thinking the US justice system is fair but its slow and exhausting to pay attention to everyone's case. But every murder has one. When you watch it play out, its unbelievable how little life is valued when its a black person. It had to be quick and in an easily digestible format like the video of the murder of George Floyd for people to fucking notice.

My extended family has to go the rest of their lives with a missing family member. He just blinked out of existence one day because some shitty white kids didnt like him. They have dinner every night with an empty seat where he used to be. He had little brothers and sisters who have varying degrees of trauma from this. One of his sister's birthday was on the day after the murder. Ive watched and intervened when I saw his other less-articulate sister get bullied on social media by a really vocal religious right leaning classmate debating her over her anti-racist facebook posts.

If you dont have the experience of a beloved family member getting plucked out of your life and never getting proper justice for it, its really easy to act like this is a recreational debate. But it really fucks with peoples lives to know that you have to share a planet with people who not only dont care, but aggressively favor the system that enables this to happen.

dr_st when youre studying a subject like racism, the review of laws and statistics in aggregate is useless. Racism doesnt have quantifiable data points. You cant record the way people stare at you, or the reasons employers decide not to hire you, or how hard it is to enroll your children in a school that actually has the funding to give your kids a safe environment to get an education.

To side with the conclusions of the studies is to deny each person's personal lived experience. There are people who absolutely know they are being profiled by the police, or that the economic systems make it near impossible to succeed at anything. At the worst, innocent people get killed over things they never did anything to deserve.

This experience i told you about isn't even mine. Theyre my extended family. im not black and this shit will never happen to me. It was insanely tragic to watch this happen and we were all powerless to the verdict. It was hard even for me to write about because ive dealt with so many deniers of racism that will still say things like "did he look suspicious? what was he doing there? wrong place wrong time, play stupid games win stupid prizes" etc. etc. as if to suggest that the murderers couldnt possibly have had the self control to not act on it, or that our racism is innate and the nonwhite people just have to comply with our conditions that are driven by the implicit biases we lie about not having and they need to just fucking deal with it.

This shit is really fucking heavy to talk about, even when someone believes me. I shouldn't have to be pinned into a corner to give you a piece of myself that id prefer to not have to relive.

And this goes for all sorts of people. People who have been told to believe that their own actions caused them to be sexually assaulted. People wo pretend to be straight around those who are violently homophobic, or pretend to be sane when theyre having a panic attack in public, or pretend to be a girl because they look like one even when their gender dysphoria makes them know theyre a boy.

When people come to this forum and see a thread like "white lives matter" its not possible to count how many of those people see that and think "wow this forum is full of assholes who have no capacity to learn or change" People who do have the capacity to learn and change are really fucking cool and i dont like to sit here and let this place become a gathering to mobilize people who feel like the validity of black peoples lives takes away from their value as white people. It absolutely does not.

Its always me who has to step in and say, yes i believe what happened to you was real and it was terrible and you didnt deserve it. It really sucks to feel like the only fucking person on this forum who does that. I have to keep reading from people here that this place is changing from what it used to be and that im ruining this place, but i give you this platform to discuss this shit openly without being banned for it when no one else will. But im running out of patience to keep having repeat conversations about how you wouldnt have these racist tirades driven by logic and reason if you cared at all about what the people who suffer from it go through, and the entitlement you think you have when the onus is on these suffering people have to find you and tell you why youre being a fuckass.

It's not, and it drives decent people away from this forum thats supposed to be about Doom.

I believe that to be 100% true. Living in Russia during a pandemic probably fucking sucks. I dont know what the reality is like for you over there but I can tell by the way you are expressing yourself that you couldnt possibly be faking it. Youre definitely going through something.

The problem with how youre expressing it is that if im reading your correctly, it seems to me that you think you'll get some kind of redemption if you can intercept people from getting special treatment that they absolutely deserve. Your anger should be with the system that oppresses people in your marginalized class. Not other marginalized people. The marginalized people didnt do this to you. The selection that our higher powers made did it to you.

The black lives matter movement is not your fight. Its not your place to diminish what theyre fighting for because you deserve it more. You have to let it be. The truth is we all need to be elevated. And when anyone is elevated it at all, its a net positive in the right direction. Youre not going to get the support you want if you feel like youre the only one that deserves to get it and that you are getting less when other people get more. Its not fair but thats the truth.

Yes exactly. We are just a doom community. What are we going to do about world affairs? We only have our own life story and experiences to go by and we can only take accountability for ourselves.

The best you can do is be patient with people, try your best to be understanding and helpful, and hope other people follow your lead.

Of course, people should live the best lives they can and treat others with care and respect. But there is more you can do.

Personally:
-I make monthly donations to Amnesty International
-I am an active member of a political party
-I volunteered for a NGO / non-profit for 4 years

I'm sure there's things you can do in your own community