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Post by xeepeep on Jul 26, 2022 11:56:53 GMT -5
No you didn't. The computer mouse was invented in 2000 and didn't become popular until 2005 or so.
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Post by nnn✓ork on Jul 26, 2022 12:22:05 GMT -5
... Therefore the only solution is to play with the keyboard, 90s style. ... Even in the 90’s we had mice. It wasn’t the Stone Age. Err, people keep saying this like it's some sort of gotcha. "Ackchyually, DOOM.EXE did have mouse support". Did anyone actually use the mouse? I think it included baked in vertical movement along with turning, aka, it was what the arrow keys did anyways, but more awkward. It was easier to just use keyboard only. And it wasn't intuitive to combine the two input devices, which would've been a 500 IQ move at the time, and I don't remember if there even were separate strafe-left/strafe-right keys. I think I used a mouse for things like Lemmings (mouse only), but not for Doom (keyboard only), iirc. I'm going off of toddler memories, but, yah.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 26, 2022 13:39:59 GMT -5
And it wasn't intuitive to combine the two input devices, which would've been a 500 IQ move at the time, Indeed, I remember in 1996, my oldest brother, who never asked my help for anything, asked me to help him play Skynet. There was a driving section where you had to steer the vehicle with the arrow keys and shoot with the mounted turret using the mouse. It was the traditional keyboard/mouse controls we're all familiar with today but back then that was a big ask from players. I held the mouse to shoot while he drove. I used the default keyboard controls when I played the doom at first. I did pick up using mouse when I became aware of source ports but before that I went with keyboard only + cheat codes. starts at 28:40
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 15:05:38 GMT -5
Even in the 90’s we had mice. It wasn’t the Stone Age. Err, people keep saying this like it's some sort of gotcha. "Ackchyually, DOOM.EXE did have mouse support". Did anyone actually use the mouse? I think it included baked in vertical movement along with turning, aka, it was what the arrow keys did anyways, but more awkward. It was easier to just use keyboard only. And it wasn't intuitive to combine the two input devices, which would've been a 500 IQ move at the time, and I don't remember if there even were separate strafe-left/strafe-right keys. I think I used a mouse for things like Lemmings (mouse only), but not for Doom (keyboard only), iirc. I'm going off of toddler memories, but, yah. Guess 7 year old me must have been a fucking genius then using keyboard and mouse in 1994 with doom... Probably for your average user, yes, it would have blown their mind. But for existing gamers of the time, it was childs play. Both were PS/2 socketed and pretty much every decent machine came with 2 PS/2 sockets, one for keyboard and one for a mouse. As for playing, I used the arrow keys and the right mouse button to strafe.
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Post by dr_st on Jul 28, 2022 15:33:15 GMT -5
Even in the 90’s we had mice. It wasn’t the Stone Age. Err, people keep saying this like it's some sort of gotcha. "Ackchyually, DOOM.EXE did have mouse support". Did anyone actually use the mouse? Romero did. The built-in demos make it obvious. soulsphere.org/apocrypha/keyboard/
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