Zzul Bases - four easy to very hard MBF21 maps

nice screens + MBF21 = cool. dling, will tell you why I hate it shortly

Thanks for playing. There is one chaingunner who is hidden. You need to use a blinking computer wall to open. Hopefully that didn't break in other ports. Will have to test it out in woof.

Yeah map31 just isn't going to be friendly for kb only due to one part which is a timed sequence.

I really enjoyed this project, thanks for sharing.
I don't think I would generally be your target audience as far as skill-level goes. I could only ever beat the first map of Dimensions. This WAD wasn't as difficult as I expected it to be though and it seemed that the first three maps even got progressively easier, not sure if that was the intention. I still had to use saves, so no demos from me unfortunately.
I've developed an appreciation for maps with purely stock textures recently, particularly when mappers still find new unique/iconic ways to use them, as you've done here. This WAD definitely has its own look.
I loved the optional secret fights, they always add a lot to a map. These maps felt like a good compromise between oldschool and newschool with the classic techbase layouts and modern challenge fights.
MAP01
I had the hardest time with this map. I had to bail out without killing the cyberdemon because I used up all of my ammo. Used one save point.
MAP02
This was my favorite map of the set. I found 7/10 secrets, one of them being that obscure blursphere that I stumbled across by a stroke of luck. The secret red skull key fight was pretty tough for me but was probably my favorite part of the map. Used three save points.
MAP03
Awesome gimmick that gave me a chuckle. Especially loved that there's a message chastising you if you press the switch before finding all chaingunners. Didn't find half of the secrets. I finished with only 140 enemies killed but I spent a long time looking for the final chaingunner (found by pressing the blinking computer texture) and didn't really know where else to look for anything, and didn't want to have to check the editor. Though, when I have the time, I definitely will be giving this a look in the editor to learn from. Used three save points.
This window that looks out on the plasma rifle has bleeding midtextures.
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MAP31
Took a quick look at this map but didn't really play it since these maps aren't my thing and I figure it requires SR50 which I haven't bothered to learn how to do. I noticed the floor is -20%. Aren't insta-kill floors a feature of MBF21?

Beautiful usage of the stock textures, very exciting to play, clever little gimmicks, a nice blend of hardcore and easy-going sections; this is a lovely mapping style that can get you far.

I played with DSDA-Doom in -complevel 9 and didn't run into any errors.
Here's an FDA for the non-secret maps, I beat the three maps. I didn't find the secret exit, I tried to beat the secret map in a separate FDA, but I DNF because it's not FDA material.

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"MBF21!!!!!!!!"



Jokes aside I might play this when I'm back on my PC in about a week. I'm not quite sure what MBF21 even is yet.

It's not that bad. Any gamer should expect at least one chaingunner to be hidden. The computer is bright and blinking. It's perfectly acceptable especially considering this WAD is already esoteric. It just gives the player more time to find secrets.

Yo. This sort of progression is stuff I like in maps I make - this is part of the fun of mapping for me. My personal projects are generally stuff that I like making/playing only. Don't care about awards, nothing. If other people happen to like them too then that is a bonus. I think I have played my maps more than anyone else in the community - until recently - and I am fine with this.

however -

I think if I was to make a map for a wad where the goal is to make something widely accepted then I would agree with you and change the switch.

no worries. I just happen to like it the way it is currently implemented.

For sure. Just wanted to say where I was with regards to my own mapping.

Didn't read into anything you said in any way and I hope you didn't read into anything I said in any way.

Cool, will be interested to see what's changed in the final version. I really enjoyed this and hope to see more of these type of mini mapsets from you in the future.