if A;Z doesn't win a cacoward, then it won the cacowards.

"I like something and will be very offended if someone doesn't"

there's a lot of projects that get good reviews and feedback every year. should all of them get cacowards? what does a cacoward even mean then?

In my book, it won the popular vote anyway. To hell with centralized award system usurped by admins and friends. Decentralization is the future.

I'm surprised that DBP threads still allowed on DW at all, especially after their mods went on a killing spree last month. If A;Z will win an award after all that being said and done... Well, it's safe to assume that this isn't going to happen. Not after one of the judges straight up said that "DW doesn't need Doomer Boards".

rd can go fuck herself. Ever since she became a mod, she's lost respect I had ever had for her. Remember it was this bitch that shut the thread of the awesome "Dynamite Duchess" mod (the mod which gave the pandemic management its due rebuttal) and banned Impie. We don't need to be fair to that drama whore at all, she feels important now she is a mod, was previously a much nicer person but shouldn't have been given a banhammer. Respecting her gender is the most she will have from me from now on.

Also I can't watch shit on imgur even when temporarily enabling javascript. The site fucking sucks. And doomworld also fucking sucks, I opened the thread about "Doom becoming cute", and the only good post is OP, everything else is low brain responses, and then someone says "Why do we have such threads" - he should have asked why do we have shitty like system that encourages one liner "look iama smart one" posts. Coming from doomer boards, doomworld now seems like a kindergarten, where the coolest argument is to grab the feces coming from your ass and throw them at the topic poster (instant cheers from anyone - the stock arachnotron picture has fucking 55 likes).

Honestly 40oz, if I were you I would almost wish it wouldn't get one. You said it yourself: Everybody loves Auger;Zenith!!!  You guys always do great work, but this time you really knocked it out of the park! You don't need Doomworld's validation. You know how awesome you are. All the DBP mappers should know how awesome they are. Doomworld snubbing this project would be the worst thing they could do for their own credibility. It would be obvious to everyone that they did it on purpose because the people involved come from Doomer Boards, and it would show their true colors yet again.

Yeah, I kind of agree with this and it'll be nice to win regardless of if we actually win the award.

Wasn't this comment about censorship of wads or some shit?

@vordakk thank you that means a lot. im hopeful that the rest of the people who contributed would also feel the same.

I think it's a self fulfilling prophecy if everyone starts acting pouty about it before it even happens. In any case I'm not upset about an Internet award that may or may not be given half a year from now. Unironically no homo in all honesty the best reward for me is getting to see people play through my maps. And if I'm really lucky, maybe they'll even leave feedback, good or bad.

A;Z

Nah, I simply don't respect DW staff and don't care about hiding it.

Also cacowards are no indication one would actually have fun playing maps. For example, I had no fun playing REKKR or Total Chaos, and every wad that received cacowad in that same year. For REKKR, I didn't like the graphics style - weapons look/feel like they are made of paper, for Total Chaos, the only weapon I found broke either after or in the middle (on two consecutive runs) of fighting a single monster, never found any other but run into several monsters at once weaponless, obviously gave up. My effective playing either of them was under 30 minutes. From the perspective of fun, these wads were utter trash to me, the bottom of the bottom on par with terry wads, below everybody's first map provided it has an exit, even if its spacy rectangle rooms adjacent to each other. This is not exaggeration, but statement of fact. REKKR and Total Chaos may have been titanical work and technical achievement, but from perspective of me as the player - and not a critic of technical complexity - they are worthless, unenjoyable. So I simply don't bother checking cacowards anymore, because I don't care for the wads that were made with a lot of effort if they are not enjoyable to play. I also am often reluctant to check Gzdoom-only wads, especially conversions, because if the new formula doesn't work for me I would have been better playing a map for less advanced source part. On the other hand, if I check out a Gzdoom wad (especially conversion!) that I truly like I have much more fun with it than I would have playing a wad for less advanced source port. Still while I can give every next Gzdoom wad a try (and perhaps should!), I'm highly unlikely to look for wads to play on a cacowards page anymore. Also, the year Total Chaos won, Tangerine's Nightmare (by franckFRAG and company) didn't even make it to runner-ups (and I actually knew it wouldn't even before cacowards got released, because I was checking the cacowards mentionating thread at the time), BUT I actually enjoyed playing Tangerine's Nightmare (unlike every cacoward from that year), so: 1) thanks French doom community for making it. 2) cacowards have since become worthless to me for discovering wads I may have fun playing.

Tastes differ, and while many on these forum might disagree with me on Total Chaos or REKKR, a thing to keep in mind is that technical sophistry, innovation and fun are categories independent of each other, that is intersection is possible but correlation does not exist, and cacowards are more about recognising technical sophistry and innovation rather than fun wads to actually play.