MegaPancakeStrategist
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 6, 2021 9:14:36 GMT -5
There's competition now so we 'ought to just keep doing what we're good at which is making fun map packs. But what else? How we will keep one-upping one another? The DBPs require no questionable cult indoctrination ceremonies whatsoever! The DBPs belong to YOU, fellow Doomer Boards denizens, and whether you want to contribute to one or not just always know that you're welcome and appreciated! It's a community thing! NOTE: I do not wish to contribute to a 'Us VS Them' mentality even though my thread title clearly displays so as such. It's just a game.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 9:20:30 GMT -5
What the fuck! We already have done 2 DBPs without those people. Joe's is not the first post-schism one! False alarm, I believe both projects will go on fine. The critical mass is actually both here and there.
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MegaPancakeStrategist
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 6, 2021 9:45:09 GMT -5
Reminder that anyone can lead a DBP you just need a (limit-removing) resource pack and the guidelines to go and you're ready for the month. Also new DBP scheduling thread would be nice.
I'll be kicking off and leading June with 40oz.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 11:00:11 GMT -5
Mapping is not a competition!
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MegaPancakeStrategist
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 6, 2021 11:02:53 GMT -5
Of course it's not but a competitive spirit can motivate greater capabilities and to deter from the death-flag from the opening image post! It's for fun and I felt like being cheeky. Updated OP with an important note.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 12:41:32 GMT -5
MegaPancakeStrategist, my point is not about competition, but about quoting misguided anonymous post that seems to incite panic. Stay frosty. The DBP's history has only just began. I am actually in process to rehashing monster dehacked and resources concepts (there is resource donation thread for DBPs), it may be a long while before I post but I will eventually post stuff that is going to be useful in future DBPs projects. That is, I intend to go beyond contributing ideas to the resource/idea thread. Also, we need not rely solely on veterans to produce the maps - what keeps DBPs alive is a stream of new mappers and also testers. You can't really milk same person again and again against their will. And even if you don't have mapping skills, sign up for testing!
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Post by 40oz on May 6, 2021 13:36:22 GMT -5
Mapping is not a competition! Quoting this for truth. No one should feel pressured to outdo the other mappers in or outside of the project. Doomer Boards Project is uniquely for personal growth at the per mapper level. What people are doing outside of doomer boards project is none of our business. ("our" as in anyone participating in DBP)
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 13:58:33 GMT -5
I would also like observers to take notice of the following: the statement that joe-ilya's is first post schism DBP - as presented by Anonymous person - is factually incorrect. The schism happened in March, proof. That is, during the production of Luminous Gloom DBP, in which none of the walkaways took part. Following that, there was Stroggmans Tundra DBP, which also stands on the back of some less known, but already veteran members of DBP who have contributed to it in the past. Anonymous observers may also be unaware of the discussion that happened behind closed doors of DBP forum, where glenzinho on the 2nd of March put us before the fact that no DBP is scheduled for March 2021, and that he is stepping down from maintaining DBP's schedule, and that he is hoping some dudes take care of it. 40oz then managed to create new project thread - with a resource pack and an example map already ready - within 15 hours of this announcement. Nice crisis management, 40oz. Now the hell is this image with a factually incorrect data is doing in the OP, I don't know.
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MegaPancakeStrategist
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 6, 2021 14:01:25 GMT -5
The point is that some people think it's the end of the DBPs and so I gave rise to playful competition to lighten the mood so that such doesn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 14:13:59 GMT -5
"Some people" who get the facts wrong, you mean. Well, changing our approach to making DBPs because some outsiders get the situation wrong is not a sound strategy, compared to pointing out their errors and correcting them.
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joe-ilya
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Post by joe-ilya on May 6, 2021 14:14:40 GMT -5
It's a meme to say I suck, take it with a grain of salt and carry on.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2021 14:23:43 GMT -5
joe-ilya, I can believe such a meme exists, but is also factually incorrect, as evidenced by 10 Day Vacation DBP. Your themes rock fucking ass.
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Post by xeepeep on May 6, 2021 15:02:08 GMT -5
Where the hell do they talk about DBPs on 4chan lmao
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Post by joe-ilya on May 6, 2021 15:11:38 GMT -5
That's /vr/ you normie.
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Post by xeepeep on May 6, 2021 15:30:21 GMT -5
Oh shit forgot about that place.
Sucks that big ol billy has defected. he was by far the greatest creative mind behind DBP (no offence 40) and I think he contributed to a big part of the DBP's reputation and charm. Even Glen that insufferable drunkard made solid-ass maps, even though they were all a bit too massive for my taste. I think the subsequent dbps will be more like the very first ones and less like the objectively best DBP, the cyberdemon ass one.
I really should contribute someday. I had great fun when I hosted that speedmapping session................... three and a half years ago.............
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Post by 40oz on May 6, 2021 15:30:36 GMT -5
It's probably glenzinho and company trying to build up false hype.
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Post by an0n on May 6, 2021 15:49:23 GMT -5
Nice, now billy n' frens will steal all cacowards with his creative ZDoom trickery while 40oz bores everyone with his casual-friendly bullshit. I love watching this trashfire.
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Post by matador on May 6, 2021 15:52:40 GMT -5
MegaPancakeStrategist , my point is not about competition, but about quoting misguided anonymous post that seems to incite panic. Stay frosty. The DBP's history has only just began. I am actually in process to rehashing monster dehacked and resources concepts (there is resource donation thread for DBPs), it may be a long while before I post but I will eventually post stuff that is going to be useful in future DBPs projects. That is, I intend to go beyond contributing ideas to the resource/idea thread. Also, we need not rely solely on veterans to produce the maps - what keeps DBPs alive is a stream of new mappers and also testers. You can't really milk same person again and again against their will. And even if you don't have mapping skills, sign up for testing! ^This. We're just in another era of DBPs. We've been sort of developing a new cast of regular mappers and I'm sure this will bear fruit. Actually, it already has (most recently, see the Peerdolius map in DBP35) and I'm sure it will continue to in the future. This crisis of the guys in charge of the DBPs leaving isn't even new as it already happened way back when 40oz left and the series got along just fine. I'm glad you're sticking around @vigilantdoomer and I look forward to seeing what you cook up when you end up leading one of these projects in the future. In fact, I'm looking forward to seeing some new faces as project leads. It's the wild west now and there's a lot of opportunity for creativity, imo. Reminder that anyone can lead a DBP you just need a (limit-removing) resource pack and the guidelines to go and you're ready for the month. Also new DBP scheduling thread would be nice. I'll be kicking off and leading June with 40oz. We really do need a new scheduling thread so people know that they can sign up as a project lead and to take some of the load off 40oz (who we've been relying on hard to keep the ship running). I'm glad you're back and hope to see you leading some of these solo as well. You deleted it but I think we can make great use of your sprite-art skills. I liked some of your suggestions and while a competition thread is just going to devolve into talking about drama, I think we should take the opportunity to discuss what we can do better with these. It's a meme to say I suck, take it with a grain of salt and carry on. As far as I'm concerned you've got a pretty strong record as project lead. DBP27 is probably my all-time favorite DBP and DBP33 seemed to be received pretty well. Oh shit forgot about that place. Sucks that big ol billy has defected. he was by far the greatest creative mind behind DBP (no offence 40) and I think he contributed to a big part of the DBP's reputation and charm. Even Glen that insufferable drunkard made solid-ass maps, even though they were all a bit too massive for my taste. I think the subsequent dbps will be more like the very first ones and less like the objectively best DBP, the cyberdemon ass one. I really should contribute someday. I had great fun when I hosted that speedmapping session................... three and a half years ago............. You should contribute sometime. Also, 40 can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm not sure that the more Dehacked/customized DBPs are necessarily going away, just don't think that's what 40oz wants to do with the ones he leads but other project leads could do DBPs in that vein if they want.
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Post by joe-ilya on May 6, 2021 16:23:34 GMT -5
Nice, now billy n' frens will steal all cacowards with his creative ZDoom trickery while 40oz bores everyone with his casual-friendly bullshit. I love watching this trashfire. You're talking as if Billy's company made DBPs tough to beat, when they were just as casual as 40oz suggests these projects should be. You are still free to make Sunlust-esque maps for DBPs, but keep in mind that your map will be placed in a late slot because the hardest maps need to be placed last for difficulty progression sake.
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Post by MegaPancakeStrategist on May 6, 2021 16:34:27 GMT -5
an0n Well it's the only Doom community trashfire in public sight to my knowledge anyway. Best enjoy it while it lasts with however long its been already. matador Yeah apologies for any unintended drama that may result in this thread. If someone ambitious has a great theme and maybe some dehacked work but only wants to make one map for it then the DBPs are perfect for getting a group of people right on it and it being done in about a month. It could be anyone really as creation happens instantaneously and it could even be you! In 2019 I had the plans for three ambitious DBPs with my art and simple dehacked effects and while those plans have since changed I'll still deliver if I feel like it. Stay tuned, especially if you like Blade Runner and cyberpunk anime and all that sort of thing!
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Post by matador on May 6, 2021 17:38:00 GMT -5
matador Yeah apologies for any unintended drama that may result in this thread. If someone ambitious has a great theme and maybe some dehacked work but only wants to make one map for it then the DBPs are perfect for getting a group of people right on it and it being done in about a month. It could be anyone really as creation happens instantaneously and it could even be you! In 2019 I had the plans for three ambitious DBPs with my art and simple dehacked effects and while those plans have since changed I'll still deliver if I feel like it. Stay tuned, especially if you like Blade Runner and cyberpunk anime and all that sort of thing! Nah, you're fine. The drama is there so it's going to come regardless, I just didn't want your points about improving the DBPs to get lost in the midst of all that. Especially your point about updating the scheduling thread as I'm not sure anyone who wants to potentially lead these realizes that there's openings available (and I kind of wonder if the lack of such a thread is a reason for some of the departures). I would be interested in leading a DBP eventually but I want to get better and faster as a mapper before that point (and also want to learn more about Dehacked stuff). I already know about what you & 40oz have planned for June and am looking forward to it (assuming I make the deadline, of course).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 7:41:46 GMT -5
Pardon me for my ignorance, but what the fuck is DB(K)?
Also, TLDR
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 7:46:03 GMT -5
Pardon me for my ignorance, but what the fuck is DB(K)? Also, TLDR “A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they shall never sit.” -Ancient Greek Proverb
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Post by Lobo on Jun 8, 2021 11:03:06 GMT -5
DBP= Current doomer boards project members. DBP(K)= Previous doomer boards project (krew) members who went off to do a zdoom DBP.
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Post by sirmolina on Jun 8, 2021 14:20:53 GMT -5
I didn't know about the DBK project until today :T Anyway, why they call themselves as DoomerBoardsKrew? As far as I know all of them are pure deserters of this board... And his "krew" are only two or three guys who have removed their accounts from here. Not only that, his project it's being developed on the zdoom forum without any word of that development here, in the doomer boards forum
So WTF?
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