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Post by xeepeep on Apr 8, 2021 8:42:58 GMT -5
The Brazilian mafia pulled up on memfis minutes after he made the post. Glen got mob ties y'all, put some respect on his name.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 9:29:04 GMT -5
Lmao just stop :DDD
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joe-ilya
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Post by joe-ilya on Apr 8, 2021 9:38:19 GMT -5
I think 40oz drove glen and dmdr away with the whole "DBP should be really easy, so that noobs can play it" he's trying to pull off out of nowhere after abandoning it for over a year with over a dozen of installments made in his absence, completely redefining what DBP stood for.
I am shitting my pants now that bigolbilly might be deleting his Boards account soon as well.
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Post by GRUG on Apr 8, 2021 9:44:29 GMT -5
Bob Page, I am relieved to read this. Wouldn't want to say "good riddance" to glen, he was one of the good guys. He made great content in the DB community. Though he was often a fucking cunt of a human being beyond all acceptable parameters.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 8, 2021 9:48:53 GMT -5
It could be literally anything as long as I'm involved. First it was my hiatus, then it was that the mapping workshop/dbp sections were made for members only. As long as I exist and have any influence at all of what goes on in their doomerboards-related lives, they will talk shit about it in their discord group. It happened at doomworld, and it's happening here.
If anyone wants to leave because they dont like working with me or reading what I say, that's their decision to make.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 10:16:26 GMT -5
Well fuck discord (really), and I'm sure as hell not leaving this place anytime soon. And let's not forget, glen failed to transfer the reigns over DBP schedule when he didn't schedule anyone for March 2021, and just left a public notice that no DBP is scheduled when the March began (in subforum closed for non-registered members) and left the board to figure out its course. And 40oz came to rescue the situation immediately, despite all the shit going in his personal life. So much hate for this guy when you should rather hate yourselves - I'm addressing the ones who talk shit about 40oz around here.
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 8, 2021 11:22:05 GMT -5
"DISCORD!!!!!!!!"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 11:24:47 GMT -5
xeepeep, that site is blocked in Russia, lol. I've seen the picture in the name of holy Tor, though.
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Post by dn on Apr 8, 2021 11:30:39 GMT -5
I should really set up an official IRC channel to sit empty. You people are techno-barbarians, it's time you started acting like it.
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 8, 2021 11:43:44 GMT -5
"IRC!!!!!!!!!"I'm slightly embarrassed to admit how pleased do these low effort shitposts make me. I'm 20 years old for fuck's sake.
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Post by good-old on Apr 8, 2021 11:52:41 GMT -5
Discord indeed has problems, but despite Steam having even more it's not hated. This is giving me thread ideas...
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Post by dn on Apr 8, 2021 12:37:40 GMT -5
xeepeep - fixed it for you. Also, stop shitting the forums up with ungodly fuckhueg jpgs. Twice.
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Post by GRUG on Apr 8, 2021 12:52:48 GMT -5
The Virgin Soy Discord Bugman
>Non user friendly layout ... how the fuck do you join a server
>Shitty voice over IP >Bad connection >Servers full of autistic (content removed) >Bans people who make insensitive jokes
The Chad IRC Gibson >Easier to enter chat room ... #chatroom name >No need for microphone, uses keyboard to communicate like a true 90's kid >Your internet can suck ass but still able to send and receive chats >Servers not full of (content removed) >Doesn't ban people ... "Lol nice joke bro"
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 8, 2021 15:08:43 GMT -5
stop shitting the forums up with ungodly fuckhueg jpgs. Twice. You have no idea how much I'm laughing at this stuff rn though 😂😂😂 god I'm so fucking funny. Also 40oz how did you scale the images down (thanks btw)?
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Post by 40oz on Apr 8, 2021 22:16:46 GMT -5
xeepeep There's two ways to embed images into posts. There's the first way, which is the standard BBCode way that you had. [img]https://hg1.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Soyboy_064de7_7296903.jpg[/img] There's also this way, where img indicates you are embedding an image, and src="" is the direct link to the image. [img src="https://hg1.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Soyboy_064de7_7296903.jpg"] With the second way you can insert a style= decorator, with the option max-width:";" or max-height:";" after img. The values can be in percent % or pixels pxstyle="max-width:100%;" style="max-height:256px;" so the full syntax is [img style="max-width:100%;" src="https://hg1.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Soyboy_064de7_7296903.jpg"] In this case I changed the 100% to 33% to shrink the image to a third of the size. Embedded images are always scaled proportionally, so you only need one of max-height or max-width, not both. [img style="max-width:33%;" src="https://hg1.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Soyboy_064de7_7296903.jpg"]
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2021 22:20:44 GMT -5
xeepeep, click "quote" on that post to go to a new page, then switch to bb-codes, and you'll see. He added max-width attribute to "img" tag, so the image scales to take no more than 33% width of the page or maybe the html-element containing post. If you unmaximize the browser window, and drag its borders to change its size, you will see the image changes its size with it.
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Post by good-old on Apr 9, 2021 1:21:09 GMT -5
The main reason you hate discord is probably because of big servers (as in 50k+ member ones) they indeed suck, they will ban you for the slightest reasons since you're insignificant and banning you won't affect much, they've still got 50k others. Also don't expect to be able to make friends since there's a hundred people sending a message at a time, and repeating the same thing again - you're insignificant in front of 50k members. There is just no sense of "community" in such servers. But if you stay away from those trash servers (and some bots), discord is a nice place.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 9, 2021 8:00:29 GMT -5
Discord can be a fine place, sure. I understand it's benefits and I do like them (instant communication, reacts, image and file uploads, voice chat, channels and rooms by categories, etc.)
It's bad in a way that's slightly unique to doom. Doom modding has bred a lot of competition and rivalries over the years (that I, no doubt, own some stake in) Discord has been a safe place for doomworld members and other doom community members to talk about members on Doomworld to other doom community members in a manner where it's not breaking the rules of doomworld (harassing other members, spamming up threads, etc.)
Because of the nature of Discord's design, people from the doom community get included and excluded from different groups. A biproduct of these groups is that some people talk shit and spread rumors about members of the other groups. When people want to be popular in these small clubs, sometimes it serves their reputation to add on to the rumors or identify shortcomings of rival group members.
The best thing to bond the doom community would be to keep communication channels open so that we can talk things out and resolve these issues. What it seems like is that these discord groups like that they bond over these alliances against other doomers, and so people who aren't loyal to their cause tend to get unfairly targeted as breaking ambiguously defined rules on Doomworld, and getting warnings, bannings, and bullied without the bullies receiving any repercussions. That's mostly why this forum was created, to be able to speak openly without that risk.
I had a chat with the woman who cut my hair yesterday, she's a gamer and she told me she's been losing friends to a fracturing in her roleplaying game community that she's been a part of for many years and it's taking place over discord. The same kinds of situations happening there are very similar to what we are dealing with here.
It sucks but it's out of our control if people don't back out of it themselves. The way these groups snowball into groupthink echo chambers really makes these situations feel organic and out of control to the individual, but it takes everyone to realize that and pull out on their own.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 8:26:36 GMT -5
There is a Russian saying: "Как корабль назовёшь, так он и поплывёт." which means "The name you give to the boat determines how it'll float". The word "discord", according to Merriam-Webster dictionary, means: - lack of agreement or harmony (as between persons, things, or ideas) - active quarreling or conflict resulting from discord among persons or factions Does pretty much what it's called, yeah? Breeds conflicts and animosity in communities across the world. I avoid Discord because of reason one given here: stallman.org/discord.htmlRunning a nonfree program takes the freedom away. (that's the meaning of "free as in freedom", by the way. In Russian, there are proper words for it: "свободный" means "free as in freedom" and "бесплатный" means "free as in free beer" or "free of charge") So, Discord is among things I resist by boycotting it, along with Google and Amazon. You can find reasons everyone shall boycott them hard by the link I've given, by the way, just click on relevant hyperlink at the top of page I provided. Also, boycott Pay Toilets, please.
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 9, 2021 9:22:08 GMT -5
The Discord communications system requires running a nonfree client program. That alone is reason to refuse to use it.
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Post by good-old on Apr 11, 2021 8:57:35 GMT -5
Discord can be a fine place, sure. I understand it's benefits and I do like them (instant communication, reacts, image and file uploads, voice chat, channels and rooms by categories, etc.) It's bad in a way that's slightly unique to doom. Doom modding has bred a lot of competition and rivalries over the years (that I, no doubt, own some stake in) Discord has been a safe place for doomworld members and other doom community members to talk about members on Doomworld to other doom community members in a manner where it's not breaking the rules of doomworld (harassing other members, spamming up threads, etc.) Because of the nature of Discord's design, people from the doom community get included and excluded from different groups. A biproduct of these groups is that some people talk shit and spread rumors about members of the other groups. When people want to be popular in these small clubs, sometimes it serves their reputation to add on to the rumors or identify shortcomings of rival group members. The best thing to bond the doom community would be to keep communication channels open so that we can talk things out and resolve these issues. What it seems like is that these discord groups like that they bond over these alliances against other doomers, and so people who aren't loyal to their cause tend to get unfairly targeted as breaking ambiguously defined rules on Doomworld, and getting warnings, bannings, and bullied without the bullies receiving any repercussions. That's mostly why this forum was created, to be able to speak openly without that risk. I had a chat with the woman who cut my hair yesterday, she's a gamer and she told me she's been losing friends to a fracturing in her roleplaying game community that she's been a part of for many years and it's taking place over discord. The same kinds of situations happening there are very similar to what we are dealing with here. It sucks but it's out of our control if people don't back out of it themselves. The way these groups snowball into groupthink echo chambers really makes these situations feel organic and out of control to the individual, but it takes everyone to realize that and pull out on their own. I kinda see where you're coming from, I actually remember someone in dragonfly's server who heard rumors about you "shitting members in private" and overall describing you as if you're Hitler or sth. It's mostly unique to Doom because of the drama that happened in its community, most of which started with your ban, although I'm not blaming you for their mistake. It has something to do with how easy it is to create servers. Don't like the server owner? Create your own server with a couple of clicks. Server doesn't have a feature and owner isn't willing to add it? Create a server. Don't like the people in the server or got banned? Join another server with the same topic, there are thousands of servers with the same topic. But then, there are the advantages of it, if you forget about a community, but still have a discord account for others, your friends will know you're alive. It's become something that a lot of people use it as something that starts on windows startup, it is the one communication channel that is always open, if the other user hasn't blocked you, that is. Add to that the points you already mentioned before, and you get a decent instant communication platform. Oh, and it doesn't have a stupid like system although that's obvious, it can be a good place to argue about stuff, if the admin is not trigger happy. I'm hoping that these alliances come to an end someday...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2021 9:34:28 GMT -5
I kinda see where you're coming from, I actually remember someone in dragonfly's server who heard rumors about you "shitting members in private" and overall describing you as if you're Hitler or sth. That's completely opposite of my experience with 40oz and of course very untrue. When I joined these boards - it happened when COVID-19 lockdown happened in my town - I was invited to participate in DBP, and he was running that month's installment then. Initially, I was creative and managed to do a few areas in first half in month, but then inspiration stalled, as I was improving so did my expectations grow, but they grew faster than did my skill, and I also was still far beneath the other mappers. So, 40oz offered to cooperate at some point, but while he did send his updates, I actually struggled but didn't tell back anything. In the very last days, 40oz realized - despite my lack of communication - that he has to finish the remaining part and also tune up the map significantly, which he did (even though he didn't credit himself upon project's release). That was some severe degree of mind-reading on his part, I would totally want to be on the same team as this guy if we were working at the same company. And yeah, we never shat on each other in PMs unrelated to DBPs either, despite significant clash of our political views (and he leans to the radical end of left spectrum). So I believe the "shitting in private" rumor to be intentional defamation. And don't even get me started about Hitler. They are, um, on the opposite ends of politics.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 11, 2021 10:21:51 GMT -5
I've heard from people say that I spread rumors, which sounds like projecting to me. Also consider that you are hearing this opinion from somebody in a discord server I legitimately do not have access to. So if that's not rumor spreading under their rules, then what I did certainly is not, either. I also don't think its rumor spreading on the agreed definition of it either.
when I still had an account there, I would reach out to other doomworld members who looked like they were being treated poorly and unfairly by the moderators/coolclub, and I would tell them that this kind of stuff has been going on for a while, because it has happened to me personally. Then I would cite some examples of times where it happened to me. I did this because I love that our doom community is very diverse and full of different talents, and I would hate to see good people feel rejected and leave. Is that spreading rumors? Idk, the things I talked about certainly were facts and I perhaps colored it by clueing them in by how it made me feel so that I could comiserate with them on a human level and not let them feel alone. I guess I didn't know enough about how the moderators/coolclub people felt to make them look like the heroes in my personal experience. So i guess in that weird fucked up way, my hands are not totally clean.
You have to consider that it is in the interest of an abuser to isolate each person with the conflict they have with the moderators and to establish an authority in which their methods go unquestioned. They couldn't control the fact that I could see what was happening from the inside out and that I could contact other members privately to undermine them. I knew those people didn't have to feel that way in the doom community, and I offered my support when it seemed like no one would (at least publicly, as far as I could tell.)
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Post by xeepeep on Apr 11, 2021 12:14:09 GMT -5
Trololololol phobus deleted his account as well it seems. I was looking thru my post history laughing at my legendary shitposts and noticed that. Idk what's the deal with this mass exodus of members recently, 40oz has his flaws but I don't think he has a miligram of malice in him, unlike the boys and girls at the big bad dark blue forum.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 11, 2021 12:53:03 GMT -5
Trololololol phobus deleted his account as well it seems. I was looking thru my post history laughing at my legendary shitposts and noticed that. Idk what's the deal with this mass exodus of members recently, 40oz has his flaws but I don't think he has a miligram of malice in him, unlike the boys and girls at the big bad dark blue forum. I ALREADY TOLD YOU IN GIANT SOYBOY REACTION FACE it's discord dude.
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