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Post by Justince on Apr 17, 2018 21:08:52 GMT -5
You've probably heard about this. Two young black men enter a Starbucks late at night loitering around claim to be waiting for a friend. One even uses the restroom, which a manager points out is for paying customers only. They still refuse to buy anything, at which point it now becomes trespassing. Manager is baited and cajoled into calling the police, the correct course of action regardless of what skin color you happen to be. The cops show, politely try and reason with these two jackasses, ask them to leave oh, about three times. No, that's not good enough, not when you can hear that big 'ol jackpot buzzer in the background. The cops end up arresting these two, who are subsequently released as Starbucks did not press charges, and the whole thing should have just be an isolated incident, right? OH FUCK NO!!! As usual, twitter is unleashed, the boycotts start, the harassment of employees, the dismissal of the manager...Nope, still not good enough. Once the virtue-signalling lefttard mob descends on your business for simply applying it's policy there's only one recourse... SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT IT ALL DOWN. www.yahoo.com/finance/news/starbucks-will-close-u-s-stores-may-29-racial-bias-education-180410747.htmlThat's right, racial bias education. See Mr. Manager, you made the mistake of trying to tell a black person what to do. You made the mistake of trying to treat them as you would any rude, confrontational fuckass. You need to be re-educated into the new uberleft dogma! First rule: These people can't be criticized and can't do anything wrong without the race card being in constant play. Everyone is racist. Second rule: You better hope twitter agrees with what you're doing, or your job, or reputation, shit even you and your family's life will be threatened. Third rule: You're fucked. Had you not done anything you probably would've been fired. Now that you acted you're also fired and people hate you, and a company loses millions. Spin the wheel, baby. |
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Post by TOS on Apr 17, 2018 21:52:17 GMT -5
This is why I don't like people.
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Post by GRUG on Apr 17, 2018 23:51:02 GMT -5
I feel bad for this coffee clerk. He's probably like "I can't even say anything or I will lose my job and be branded as a racist."  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 23:57:58 GMT -5
Why da' creamer in da' coffee always gotta be white? Y'all muh'fuckas racist!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 0:23:04 GMT -5
Pssssh it's 2018 now and the metagame has moved way past the race card.
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Post by dn on Apr 18, 2018 0:52:10 GMT -5
I will fucking eject lurkers from this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 2:49:16 GMT -5
"Innocent people fucked over for no good reason"
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 3:35:08 GMT -5
I will fucking eject lurkers from this thread. Give a Scot a little power and see it go to his head. Doomkid said it all anyway. |
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Post by 40oz on Apr 18, 2018 5:11:44 GMT -5
Starbucks can never catch a break. First it was "theres a starbucks across the street from another Starbucks" then it was "they always spell my name wrong" then it was "fuck Starbucks for their red Christmas cups" and now this.
Starbucks needs to figure out how to get in everybody's homes because people shouldn't be allowed out until they've had their coffee.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 5:16:09 GMT -5
So if the company apologized does it mean it's now okay to use the restroom without paying? Was there even a rule about this in the first place?
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Post by 40oz on Apr 18, 2018 7:17:37 GMT -5
You know this is some bullshit when some dude had a megaphone sitting in his house waiting for something like this to use it for.  |
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Post by deathevokation on Apr 18, 2018 7:21:32 GMT -5
Ugh... so basically they're under fire for treating black people like normal human beings who should be aware of their surroundings? Whenever I'd sit at a fast food place to rest I'd order something filler like a bottomless coffee or something.. I thought this was standard protocol? Treating them how you'd treat anyone whose using a restaurant's facilities and not buying anything.. the fact that they were even still present by the time the police arrived shows their level of passive aggressiveness. The fact that people actually stick up for these two loiterers has to be the most condescending way to stand up for black people, it must be a slow news week for social justice.
They get whipped into a frenzy over this, and then become blind to real evil and become outright obstacles in other important conversations that could have prevented unnecessary bloodshed, just a few weeks ago here a three year old gets crucified and raped and then silence (and the only Liberals that did comment on said incident become apologists by talking about muh history) only for everyone to suddenly become human rights activists over a restaurant following standard protocol.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 7:27:43 GMT -5
Treating them how you'd treat anyone whose using a restaurant's facilities and not buying anything.. I think what the protesters are saying is that usually only black people are treated like that in their region, whereas white people can chill inside and not get kicked out. It's tricky because the behavior of the managers and the police in this case alone might not be problematic, but when you look at the overall picture it suddenly begins to seem unjust compared to how white people are treated, at least according to these protesters. So like these two guys getting arrested is both right and wrong depending on how you look at it. Maybe white Americans from this forum can try a simple experiment: go into a Starbucks without ordering anything, try to use a bathroom, sit there for a while, see what happens. |
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Post by 40oz on Apr 18, 2018 7:57:36 GMT -5
In general, managers asking people to leave is not a very useful exercise of managerial duties. But it happens. I've been asked to leave once before because I wasn't a paying customer. It's not a race issue. It's circumstancial that the manager happened to be white, but he can't control his skin color in order to make his request seem more fair. What I do know is that black people face racism in small passive aggressive ways in their every day life, and people who work at starbucks work a lot harder than they get appropriately paid for, so this is most likely a collision of two people who deal with unfair everyday ordeals and taking it out in an unnecessary place. Our world is imperfect and I don't know how to fix it, so sometimes we have to just accept that some bullshit happens once in a while. It's just alarming that there are so many people in this world who really believe, or at the very least, act as though they believe this really is a race issue and that the entire starbucks franchise is racist because they hire racist people to be their managers. Its unbelievable. Beligerent people get what's coming to them all the time, the skin color has nothing to do with it.
I'm not saying the below video is comparable to what happened at starbucks, but it's scary being in a place where the customer has that much unearned power over you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 8:05:39 GMT -5
Isn't Starbucks where most of the prog's hang out? Seems retarded to shit where you eat, drink and sleep.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 9:06:51 GMT -5
Everything is circumstantial when you look at individual cases but it's still possible to look at general trends, and it's those trends that people are worried about I guess. So it's like the race has nothing to do with this specific case, and yet in the grand scheme of things it does since it sort of confirms a general observation about how society views that race. It's confusing and frustrating.
I think it's good when such discussions happen because the problem of different races being treated differently does exist and we need to talk about it. It sucks when someone has to get fired over this though.
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Post by 40oz on Apr 18, 2018 11:19:50 GMT -5
I get what you're saying, it makes sense. I don't want you to feel as though I'm frustrated with you. My frustration lies with this current trend of protesting and civil disobedience. It is good that people are discussing it, but it doesn't seem like anyone in this protest really wants to have a mutual understanding. See in the picture, one dude has a megaphone to amplify his voice louder than anyone else in the room, and the starbucks employee is just standing at the till trying to make a living. The protest is falling on deaf ears.
I really do believe these subtle, nearly undetectable forms of racism is a problem worth discussing, but when these rallies, riots, and protests keep coming up, I don't think anyone involved is really doing it because they want to talk about it. They just want to tell people to stop. It's not that simple. It's never been that simple. I don't think the manager believed he was being racist when he called the police. I think he believed it was the right thing to do when someone is obstructing the business and they won't cooperate with him.
Watching lynch mobs never made anyone I know want to hate black people, and watching people protest starbucks doesn't make me think they're a racist company.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 12:32:52 GMT -5
I will fucking eject lurkers from this thread. Well shit, I guess I have to post now XD Uhh, as a black person I hate the thought that I might be treated differently at all, especially when I see conflicts like this show up in the news. Makes me think I'm getting more and more lumped in with these protesting folk and makes me uncomfortable to enter a store that I don't usually visit, heh. The protest is justifiable if, like memfis said, other races of people are allowed to loiter in the starbucks without being told to go someplace else. Of course, if the inverse happened where black people are allowed to loiter when other races aren't, that's still unfairness that I would rather not have. I guess what I'm saying is I long for actual utopian racial equality that will never exist and feel this whole situation could've been avoided and wasn't worth shutting down the starbucks over. I'mdonethatsallIgottimetodisappearbackintothemist o/ |
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Post by NuMetalManiak on Apr 18, 2018 12:40:22 GMT -5
As if Starbucks wasn't unenjoyable already. Nice going RJPs, you all are just looking to ruin everything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 14:35:08 GMT -5
but it doesn't seem like anyone in this protest really wants to have a mutual understanding Yeah, that's true. They don't really seem like honest and open-minded people. Too loud, too demanding, too confident in every word they say. There should be a better way to react to this incident. Another problem is that most citizens are probably nothing like that, but only this annoying vocal minority is noticed by the public. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2018 10:23:13 GMT -5
I think what the protesters are saying is that usually only black people are treated like that in their region, whereas white people can chill inside and not get kicked out. It's tricky because the behavior of the managers and the police in this case alone might not be problematic, but when you look at the overall picture it suddenly begins to seem unjust compared to how white people are treated, at least according to these protesters. So like these two guys getting arrested is both right and wrong depending on how you look at it. Maybe white Americans from this forum can try a simple experiment: go into a Starbucks without ordering anything, try to use a bathroom, sit there for a while, see what happens. I get where you're coming from Memfis, and it's good to try to see other perspectives on various issues. But until you actually come to America and experience firsthand how entitled, thin-skinned, and quick to anger about nothing many American blacks are, you may not fully get why we are so fed up with it. |
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Post by Justince on Apr 19, 2018 10:48:55 GMT -5
... It is good that people are discussing it, but it doesn't seem like anyone in this protest really wants to have a mutual understanding. See in the picture, one dude has a megaphone to amplify his voice louder than anyone else in the room, and the starbucks employee is just standing at the till trying to make a living. The protest is falling on deaf ears. Of course, most rational people can easily see this. Truth is, if racism were to suddenly disappear most of these fly-by-night 'progressives' would vanish into a cloud of fucking smoke. They need racism to justify their entire existence. The need divisiveness so they can keep that precious chip on their shoulder, so they can continue to deny responsibility, so they can continue the massive guilt trip and the 'poor 'ol me being' held back' song and dance. And don't forget the fucking tiresome solidarity. Oh my, a black person mistreated!!?? Get the nation of Wakanda ready to invade (but only if a white person is involved of course, any black on white racially motivated crime is willfully ignored). Now you'll hear a retarded deluge of anecdotes about people not being kicked out of Starbucks or whatever, like they deserve a fucking medal. No, you broke the rules and could have been asked to leave, you weren't and have no other leg to stand on. But they will always mention their race, despite having no proof it had anything to do with the situation (usually self-hating whites), because they've been programmed to think their lives are automatically sunshine and roses next to any brown person...which in itself is so ridiculously racist I want to just scream. Truth is, if you're asked to leave and refuse, you're trespassing. That's the law. |
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Post by Justince on Apr 19, 2018 11:20:49 GMT -5
Heh, the top comment on most of the news stories covering this event is 'Why didn't they just buy a coffee?'
Well I'll tell you why Mr. Logical Thinking person, like I said in my first post. These two knew as soon as they were confronted, their trump card would allow the moralizing uberleft thought police to push them into super stardom. Why follow the rules when you can get rich? Now we've got young men everywhere seeing these two, on TV, all over the news..what kind of lesson you think they're taking away from this? It's not 'I should probably be a paying customer so I'm not trespassing', I fucking guarantee you that.
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Post by GRUG on Apr 20, 2018 9:02:09 GMT -5
That moment when being red pilled.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 16:30:54 GMT -5
I absolutely love the mix of disgust and vacancy you can see in that man's face in that photo!
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