Hamas forces enter Tel Aviv

shave it as much as you like, arlene's still not gonna rim you. Word on the street is she prefers a nice hairy anus, because she saves money on dental floss that way.

You seem convicted that's something they are against.

It's not menacing - American (and more importantly Jewish) interests are obviously encroached by this whole thing. Do you think the homes and lives of some arabs in some shithole are more important than that?
America has been doing this exact thing all across the world since the cold war. This includes my own country, 1/6 of which has been under American occupation for 25 years now.

You didn't think you were the good guys, did you?

Be careful when you're using the pronoun "you" when you're talking about the entirety of the US World Policy.

In the united states it is very difficult to find unfiltered information about what our military is doing. Our news stations make no effort to catch people up to speed on what is happening, why it happened, or what any intended goals are. Everything news broadcasts show are ridiculously filtered, we never see blood, or people getting shot. The B-roll used on news channels is always a humvee driving over a dirt road, crumbled buildings, or smoke clouds in the distance. Visually it makes no sense, and 90% of leaked military footage gets snuffed out of existence pretty quickly. No one knows what the fuck the US military thinks its job is unless they are parroting obnoxious shit they heard a youtube commentator say.

We have no influence on what they're doing, short of widespread protest, which almost never happens. The US people are desensitized to violence at this point. The subject of the U.S. military is so depressing and so foreign it's difficult to get an opinion from anyone, much less find anyone who's even remotely informed about it. The only people who can talk about it are our military service people who are, to put it frankly, completely fucking brainwashed.

This is what makes the action of anyone in my periphery taking a side on these conflicts so confusing to me. Being informed about any kind of world conflict while residing in the United States requires an enormous amount of effort to get caught up enough to be able to establish any kind of opinion on who's right and who's wrong. So anytime there are bombs being dropped, it blows my mind how quickly people can change their avatars to Ukraine flags or Israeli flags considering its so difficult to elicit these kinds of opinions from anyone during moments of (relative) calmness.

Yeah for the record I'm not blaming the average Amerilard at all. Your information space is so tightly controlled, filtered and even falsified (see the burned/beheaded babies in Israel - apparently it's fake) that it's completely unsurprising that you follow the State Department approved vision of the world.

There's another thing I think plays a significant role but I rarely see discussed - parallels with prior wars.
Most white people have not seen war since World War II. America hasn't seen war since the Civil war. What makes WWII and the Civil war noteworthy is that there's a clear "good guy" and "bad guy". Wwii was ethnic supremacy and genocide versus egalitarianism or whatever. The civil war was slavery versus freedom.
However most wars aren't like this. The Yugoslav wars are a good example, or World War I.
The western world does not remember such more typical wars, and therefore tries to apply the good vs evil paradigm to conflicts where it doesn't apply. And naturally the population always aligns to whoever they consider the force of good. This is obvious with the war in Ukraine - a typical conflict over spheres of influence is presented by the West as a defence of democracy against authoritarianism or whatever the fuck. And you do support democracy, don't you?

BIG DICK NIGGA , you're wise and knowledgeable for your age, and probably the most sarcastic person on the forums though not being so right here, but I've been paying attention to important things before you were swimming in your dad's sack. You know much but your knowledge of the US Civil War and WWII could go a little deeper.


Just some things to broaden people's horizons:





Unity Mofos!



To many the Civil War is considered the War of Northern Aggression, but yes slavery is bad. Unfortunately there's more slaves in the world now than any other time in history, many of them sex slaves, and many of them under age (Foreign Policy magazine, circa 2006-2008, also the movie Sound of Freedom 2023).

Regarding the complexity of the US Civil War, there were in fact some blacks fighting for the Confederate side. But were any of them free men? I don't know. Maybe not at all. There was no such thing as an all black regiment in the confederacy. Though some claim so, but there was definitely not. And some disagreed with black men fighting with them. By no means at all am I justifying slavery in any way, but looking at things objectively, some (or a lot of) slaves may have been living and eating better and healthier than some free men today. Personally I would choose freedom over slavery despite more personal difficultly. But it's not too unreasonable to consider that at least a few slaves who didn't live under too abusive conditions might have been content enough to serve the south. It's also logical to consider some may have been forced into service. The war did end a few weeks after a Confederate law was passed allowing official black enlistment as soldiers.   So the few blacks seen shooting at union soldiers were not officially enlisted as soldiers as there are no Confederate record of such enlistment. Blacks laboring for the Confederates did receive pensions.   Obviously, there were definitely horrible abusive slave owners. Another good question is who owned the slave ships, who so many died on in horrid conditions, but don't expect google of all engines to be too forthcoming.

Apparently this is the most that's known:
www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/black-confederates-truth-and-legend

Pretty much the only certainties are that no side is totally good and I lost my train of though. I think it was about things are more complex than they seem.


WWII is also more complex. Even as the Nazis were putting people in ghettos and maybe some of the camps, elite bankers supported them. When the Nazis started establishing trade deals with South America giving them agricultural machinery in exchange for crops back, cutting out any currency and the bankers as middle men, then the bankers turned against the Nazi regime. As WWII came to a close, German soldiers fighting for their country not necessarily that many hardcore nazis themselves, however screwed up the regime they fought for, they were mass genocided by the Allies/US. They were densely packed together fenced in, and killed from starvation and exposure, in an absolutely horrid war crime. I guarantee many of them never personally oppressed anyone themselves. It seems the US General Patton who had a major hand in defeating the Germans, might have been sneakily assassinated for being against the genocidal action afterwards, before he had the chance to publicly criticize and expose too much.

I just wanna say that my favorite President is Truman because he nuke.

I'd be surprised if Hamas didn't behead some babies. I'd also be surprised if Israel doesn't "let a tragedy go to waste", as they say in the trade.
But anyways, Hamas acts like barbaric, genocidal animals, and Palestine can't control their rabid dogs or simply doesn't want to decade-to-decade. In fact, the dogs run their joint. Sucks for any captive audience there.

Hamas: Chaotic Evil
Israel: Lawful Jewish

Also, totally not a glowie.

dr_st how about this?
edition.cnn.com/2023/10/12/middleeast/israel-hamas-beheading-claims-intl/index.html

i can't exactly suspect anyone of being in good faith when exaggerating the facts at this point (it's remarkable when they're even based on reality). for instance the ukraine conflict in western media was basically callodoody with shit that could be debunked with photoshop, an internet connection, basic logic and some language skills, i can only imagine even more bias when it comes to israel. even our resident "conspiracy theorist" will believe the western media when it comes to china for instance, so it seems everyone has their own bias

That's how shitlibs operate. "Current thing that is justified by the media is good".