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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2021 23:00:52 GMT -5
Hello everyone.
I'm sure this probably won't go over well or whatever, but I was thinking of making a break the mental health stigma thread. pretty much a mental health safe place of NO JUDGMENT where we can talk diagnosis, med, therapies, hospital admission, maybe find a friend to talk to going through similar stuff and ask for advice....
So before I totally waste my time on making a dope ass thread I figured id save myself some time and do a poll. Hopefully people will vote.
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Post by dn on Dec 15, 2021 23:36:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2021 5:40:41 GMT -5
As for idea directly, I am not sure how it could be executed, although I would consider it as nice to have.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Dec 16, 2021 19:27:44 GMT -5
i also think that we should have one because emotional support thread is still kinda different from what pricess idea was
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 2:36:43 GMT -5
I wouldn't mention that cesspit either. Why not give one a shot though... DEWIT.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 7:38:56 GMT -5
I'm usually a nice guy
This leads some people to take advantage, or try to assert themselves in ways that I find unacceptable.
I can go from cool to hot very quickly, if I feel that I am slighted.
When I react, then usually as a rhetorical device, the person I am reacting against, will say I'm acting crazy, or whatever bs.
Ultimately, I am not crazy, some people are just assholes, and manipulative.
But the problem is, you cannot beat the shit out of everyone who deserves it, because of the law.
Might makes right. Because, if I could crack someone's fucking skull who offends me, with a baseball bat in front of all of my peers, I doubt anyone will challenge me again, or call me crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 9:56:27 GMT -5
@contracommando Your position is morally justified. The only problem is that not all blabbermouths can be dealt with brute force because morons can get elected apparently and then they have military backing them. This is basically where "might makes right" can turn on some of its proponents. As it happens physical capacity and moral standing are not necessary correlated.
But it's good when morons actually get what they deserve ofc, and I do support vigilantism to limited degree (boundaries have to exist though, otherwise vigilantism can lead to some grave errors).
! Since the topic is mental health, I wanted to remind that sanity and mental health are not actually synonymous. The capacity to tell an apple from a banana or pay due respect to gravity is not equal to inner well-being. A person can have mental issues without becoming detached with reality or posing threat to oneself/others. In this case, they deserve freedom as much as everyone else. Also, merely thinking about how someone deserves to die without contemplating to actually kill them (you know, preparing and executing an act in real life) does not constitute a threat and is of no concern.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 10:08:21 GMT -5
I'm usually a nice guy This leads some people to take advantage, or try to assert themselves in ways that I find unacceptable. Kinda same, really... The problem is that I'm not even psychically allowed to respond in hostility. Mostly due to health issues, stress does a hell of a harm to me these days, I can't even feel happy because it cause unpleasant feelings following by nice ones... Ultimately, I am not crazy, some people are just assholes, and manipulative. Indeed. Might makes right. Because, if I could crack someone's fucking skull who offends me, with a baseball bat in front of all of my peers, I doubt anyone will challenge me again, or call me crazy. All the same feelings, though I'd replace "crazy" with another, more insulting word in my case. And just beating them with a bat - I wouldn't stop here, I'd get much, much futher, for people to develop an immediate sense of fear when my name appear, for them to remember what happens when you falsely accuse a person to be who he is not. Just one such case would be enough to everyone get shut the fuck up.
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Post by 40oz on Dec 27, 2021 12:45:55 GMT -5
it would be cool if people used the emotional support thread more often. its ok to not be ok.
Wanting to beat the fuck out of people even when you think they deserve it is not a good headspace to be in. You can trace those feelings back to the source if you talk about it and youll be able to manage it a little better so you dont feel on edge all the time and just be at peace.
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Post by mayhemicdestrvctor on Dec 27, 2021 13:41:32 GMT -5
yeah i agree we should talk more then more ppl would feel happy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 12:56:42 GMT -5
Wanting to beat the fuck out of people even when you think they deserve it is not a good headspace to be in. I presume you mean when one is really visualising the act of beating those people themselves, and going over and over this desire in their head while adrenalin or anxiety is pumping through the body without release, because otherwise there is no problem. Then I want to make this clear: longing for huge social gatherings but being unable to attend them because of restrictions is the same mental experience as the one you're describing. It's like an endless empty loop on a short circuit. And yet no politician who is making such restrictions takes this suffering into account. Even some people on this board think saving lives excuses causing mental turmoil en masse. Which means mental health - and why there shouldn't be stigma attached to it - does deserve to be talked about. Specifically the importance of preservation of mental health needs to be talked about, which means why it's NOT adequate to save people lives (looked through the binary alive-or-dead) by introducing restrictions that cause ongoing mental turmoil in significant part of population. When putting "save lives" on one side of weighing scale, protecting mental health must be put on another. Saving lives must be recognised as a conditional decision, that is NOT taken when other things are compromised to such a great extent. And no, emotional support thread is not going to cut it.I wrote a post on it on the subject back then, but even the person who replied talked about "pandemic" when I was suffering because of measures introduced to combat pandemic, not the pandemic itself. COVID-19 pandemic itself didn't touch me in slightest. The political response to it did, and the damage is catastrophic.
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Post by 40oz on Dec 28, 2021 13:38:27 GMT -5
I want to make this clear: longing for huge social gatherings but being unable to attend them because of restrictions is the same mental experience as the one you're describing. It's like an endless empty loop on a short circuit. And yet no politician who is making such restrictions takes this suffering into account. that makes total sense, and that is something I agree that big governments know nothing about and aren't interested in learning. And no, emotional support thread is not going to cut it.I wrote a post on it on the subject back then, but even the person who replied talked about "pandemic" when I was suffering because of measures introduced to combat pandemic, not the pandemic itself. Making the thread is the best I can think of. I'm sorry it's not great. People don't always know the right thing to say and sometimes people who are going through their own shit aren't at capacity to be helping others. I get the general impression that a lot of people in the Doom community are not doing exceptionally well. I've talked to people who were on the verge of suicide and when they've explained their life story to their current circumstances and finish with "why would I want to continue living at this point?" Sometimes what they say makes perfect sense, I find it hard to believe I would have the will to live after all that if I had to live that life too. Sometimes it's true that life just fucking sucks and the promise of a better future is so far away and insignificant that its not even worth suffering for. Some questions are just unanswerable. When I feel that way I try to live my life under the mantra that my purpose in life is the lessen the suffering of those around me and that helps a lot when I'm feeling really low. I hope that helps.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2021 15:06:53 GMT -5
it would be cool if people used the emotional support thread more often. its ok to not be ok. Wanting to beat the fuck out of people even when you think they deserve it is not a good headspace to be in. You can trace those feelings back to the source if you talk about it and youll be able to manage it a little better so you dont feel on edge all the time and just be at peace. Do I, chief? Because I'm aware of the source of my urge to crush skulls. It's not justifiable from law standpoint but from the moral ground and simply self-protection means it is justifiable 100% Because, I might have hurt somebody by words. Maybe. But it was, what, just a little bunch of people? Yes, a very little group of these. While I keep suffering from much higher scale shit. Not just mean words alone. And I am more than certain that my hate to people that can't shut the fuck up and stop spread bullshit toward an already dead horse (or, oh trooney-gooney, dead "name" (because of these fuckers my former alias got butchered), see the funny irony?) is have much more solid ground, more stable leg to stay on. Because, like I have said, no actual harm was done by me. A lot of harm have done TO me. See, not everything can be sorted out by simply accepting something and moving on. Was this that easy I wouldn't fucking mind any shit that happened to me trough life. Bad choices were taken, words said, not all of it was done in healthy mind. Nobody give a damn, because people are preferring bullshit over truth. Prefer to just act like stray dogs and bark at others because it's way easier to take a picture from better angle and actually put some brain activity in investigating and realising what's what.
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