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Post by dwsucksassthesedays on Jul 27, 2023 5:42:50 GMT -5
Not to mention him saying that he hasn't played much Doom, and only getting interested in it after founding out about Dr. Sleep. Looks like he hasn't touched anything outside Dr. Sleep's maps. That makes it even more unlikely for a noob to make a competent map on the first try, without any experience in playing custom wads. And what did i say? The guy supposedly didn't give a shit about Doom before finding out about Dr. Sleep, but now, after getting a ton of attention and undeserved praise, he's already planning on making more maps. He will ride on that Mr. Sleep attention wave for as long as he can. Meanwhile, better maps are being uploaded to DW every week, and get maybe 5-10 comments (if they're lucky), unless they are made by an old timer... then they might get 1/10th of the support that Hypnos got. Too bad roebloz is an utter moron. A lot could have been clarified in a real recorded interview, with the right questions and by the way Hypnos speaks and answers them. But then, i guess, he'll never agree to a recorded interview. |
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Post by nnn✓ork on Jul 27, 2023 9:08:58 GMT -5
hmm, a lot of valid speculations, that may or may not be true.
but this whole page is of yall picking on an adhd kid too...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 9:35:34 GMT -5
hmm, a lot of valid speculations, that may or may not be true. but this whole page is of yall picking on an adhd kid too... Eh, not like we're not used to mistreating the disabled here. |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jul 27, 2023 10:57:42 GMT -5
Whether he is lying or not what difference does it actually make? He's on DW, which has it's own unique ecosystem that only has some marginal overlap with this site and others. It's not like they're a bastion of truth and virtue over there. Either they're being duped or the story is true, likely with embellishments admittedly. I've yet to see anyone say anything that would compel me to actually give a fuck one way or another. If he goes on to make several maps that continue to earn undue praise leading to canonizing him as Anderson's kid in the larger community without any verification then sure but we're nowhere near that point.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 27, 2023 15:02:55 GMT -5
Wait, so, digging into someone's personal and criminal record is fine, but asking a supposed "lost child" of the guy if they are really related is not? That was like 15 years ago. It wasn't his criminal record, it was his name in an inmate directory at a prison. It's publicly viewable and it confirmed that he was still alive. Not that the time period makes it more ok to pry into someone's life. The doom community was an actual community back then; not the array of toxic sattelite groups and alliances holding forever-grudges towards each other like it is today. The thread was concerned about him being a missing person. He was an active community member who wrote a lot of technical documentation for doom builder and a regular contributor to forums like newdoom.com. He was an important person that still has resonance today. He mysteriously blinked out of existence one day and those participating in said threads were forming an impromptu search party by compiling information to find out if he was ok. Please be clear about the fact that you are assigning a con man narrative on someone you dont know until they provide unspecified proof that would satiate your suspicion. The existence of vindictive attitudes like this make well-intentioned cooperation for the well being of a seemingly missing person impossible in a public space like this. |
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Post by 40oz on Jul 27, 2023 15:11:46 GMT -5
Also, cut it out with the 'we' language. We're not a we here. You are you. The words you post represent your own posts. A lot of the things youre posting 'we' about dont represent the actions of you nor I. Because as we know, the Doomer Boards were created specifically to abide by the standards that DW set, Didn't we find like almost 30+ screens (Check KF if you want ones that Eh, not like we're not used to mistreating the disabled here. |
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Post by anfractu0us on Jul 27, 2023 16:13:10 GMT -5
...The doom community was an actual community back then; not the array of toxic sattelite groups and alliances holding forever-grudges towards each other like it is today. not only true, but i think it's important to note that as a whole the internet and communities that cropped up were of a totally different nature than nowadays; it wasn't unusual for a community to come together to check on the well-being/status of a long-standing, well regarded/notable member if they up and disappeared randomly with no indication. not arguing whether or not it's intrusive, obsessive, etc. etc. but for a lot of us back in the day, especially without social media or any other real connection from the internet to the real world, there was more involvement and value placed in the communities one inhabited and built online vs IRL so most searches like that were generally truly well meant.
that isn't to say there wasn't an abundance of malicious behaviour along the same lines but feel like this kind of thing is something that is genuinely an artifact of the nascent net
edit: wanted to clarify that i have no opinion on the matter otherwise lol, just reading through and it got me reflecting on the younger days of the internet
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Post by Gokuma on Jul 27, 2023 16:30:34 GMT -5
If he really is the son of Dr. Sleep, don't be surprised if y'all get slapped by some ghost hands!
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Post by Killer5 on Jul 27, 2023 16:32:00 GMT -5
Yeah that is basically the same experience I had throughout my wow period. L4D/L4D2 was the same way. Communities were all really great back then. Still keep up with people from my L4D2 days and we are all worried about a few people who have just disappeared.
Doom didn’t go down the shitter until recently. More so the culture war is the reason for that. I always want to make a small gatekept discord with people and make maps between ourselves but I think about what happened in 2021 on Doomworld regarding off site harassment and the pedo crap on zdoom recently and my will to release anything to this community takes a sharp nosedive into oblivion and I just do other things.
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jul 27, 2023 16:56:14 GMT -5
The internet being so ubiquitous brought disparate groups of people together in such numbers that self segregation was pretty much a certainty. My curiosity is if people can learn to live together like they used to or if that segregation will continue to spill into the real world.
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Post by xeepeep on Jul 27, 2023 17:11:33 GMT -5
I personally blame the fact that we gave women and black people human rights.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 27, 2023 19:00:24 GMT -5
Alright, mrhypnos registered here after being informed about the posts here and sent me a message. I can confirm with certainty that he is the son of Dr. Sleep. MrHypnos shared further details about his mom's relationship with John Anderson, which took place in the late 80's while she and her late husband were separated. She and her husband later got back together. She found out she was pregnant but didnt know who the real father was. She told both men and they were both overjoyed, but ultimately she chose to stay with her husband so Dr. Sleep was never really allowed in the picture. Mrhypnos also shared with me an email thread timestamped in May 2022 with his aunt, Suzette Brangard, the sister of Dr. Sleep where she informed him of his connection to John Anderson. This is the same Suzette Brangard that registered to doomworld to inform them of Dr. Sleep's passing in 2018. www.doomworld.com/forum/post/1917230The timeline continues to check out and the email thread looks entirely legitimate. This email was shared with roebloz and he was instructed to share it with me so i could clear the air here but that hadn't happened yet. Thankfully the email was not posted in the youtube video though, so props to roebloz for that. I'm not going to share the email here because its not mine to share, and it contains personally identifiable information like email addresses and full names and the like. mrhypnos also has no intention to continue participating here, so thanks for that... If desired, i can clarify any further questions in a private message, but from this point forward, posting in speculation/dispute of Mr. Hypnos identity and his relationship with his father will be punishable by immediate temporary ban. |
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Post by rancidsam on Jul 27, 2023 19:20:36 GMT -5
I can confirm with certainty that he is the son of Dr. Sleep. [...] mrhypnos also has no intention to continue participating here, so thanks for that... [...] from this point forward, posting in speculation/dispute of Mr. Hypnos identity and his relationship with his father will be punishable by immediate temporary ban. o im laffin. This dumpster fire thread just turned into an immolation parade. Ya love ta see it. (Well, maybe you don't, Forty... Gomen'ne, lol.) |
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Post by ketmar on Jul 27, 2023 20:25:13 GMT -5
ok, i promised to do that, so i admit that i was wrong, and i apologise. but only for that one thing about the parents. the whole situation still smells for me, althrough slightly less now. but i guess i'm done with it, it's not fun anymore.
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Post by Herr Dethnout on Jul 27, 2023 21:29:09 GMT -5
Not to mention him saying that he hasn't played much Doom, and only getting interested in it after founding out about Dr. Sleep. Looks like he hasn't touched anything outside Dr. Sleep's maps. That makes it even more unlikely for a noob to make a competent map on the first try, without any experience in playing custom wads. That's a complete nonsense, a lot of people can make a decent map without prior knowledge of Doom (Like me, for example  ). Is not like Doom is the hardest game to mod, and that the Doom Builder is not pretty easy to use. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 21:37:12 GMT -5
Also, cut it out with the 'we' language. We're not a we here. You are you. The words you post represent your own posts. A lot of the things youre posting 'we' about dont represent the actions of you nor I. Because as we know, the Doomer Boards were created specifically to abide by the standards that DW set, Didn't we find like almost 30+ screens (Check KF if you want ones that Eh, not like we're not used to mistreating the disabled here. I get what you mean, but don't police my writing. |
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Post by dwsucksassthesedays on Jul 27, 2023 23:57:41 GMT -5
Good for him, i take it all back, at least as far as the legitimacy of his claim goes. As for the rest, i agree with ketmar. I won't spill any more negative thoughts towards the guy, but i won't praise him either, like the whole of DW does (still undeserved by the way). @herr Dethnout , in plain english - there is a difference between "impossible" and "unlikely". Which of these terms did i use? Sure UDB is easy to understand and work with, but how many "first maps" turn out decent, or semi-competent in comparison to the utter trash that gets uploaded on the internet on a daily basis? I've been around long enough to know that most people with no prior experience with custom wads, from which to draw inspiration, usually make their mapping debuts with some square shaped, flat, colorless, lightless abomination, that is not worth anyones' time. Like i said, good for Hypnos, he's in the small percent of noobs, i guess. Let's see how he'll evolve from now on. |
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 28, 2023 0:51:18 GMT -5
Alright, mrhypnos registered here after being informed about the posts here and sent me a message. I can confirm with certainty that he is the son of Dr. Sleep. MrHypnos shared further details about his mom's relationship with John Anderson, which took place in the late 80's while she and her late husband were separated. She and her husband later got back together. She found out she was pregnant but didnt know who the real father was. She told both men and they were both overjoyed, but ultimately she chose to stay with her husband so Dr. Sleep was never really allowed in the picture. Mrhypnos also shared with me an email thread timestamped in May 2022 with his aunt, Suzette Brangard, the sister of Dr. Sleep where she informed him of his connection to John Anderson. This is the same Suzette Brangard that registered to doomworld to inform them of Dr. Sleep's passing in 2018. www.doomworld.com/forum/post/1917230The timeline continues to check out and the email thread looks entirely legitimate. This email was shared with roebloz and he was instructed to share it with me so i could clear the air here but that hadn't happened yet. Thankfully the email was not posted in the youtube video though, so props to roebloz for that. I'm not going to share the email here because its not mine to share, and it contains personally identifiable information like email addresses and full names and the like. mrhypnos also has no intention to continue participating here, so thanks for that... If desired, i can clarify any further questions in a private message, but from this point forward, posting in speculation/dispute of Mr. Hypnos identity and his relationship with his father will be punishable by immediate temporary ban. Well, what can I say... It sucks to be proven wrong. I apologize to Mr. Hypnos for being such an obnoxious retard and making false claims about him. I still think it's not a good thing to use Dr. Sleep's name to promote his work but since he really is his son then it's not that big of a deal I guess... I'll try to restrain myself from talking about this situation ever again. |
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Post by StodgyAyatollah on Jul 28, 2023 3:03:22 GMT -5
I still think it's not a good thing to use Dr. Sleep's name to promote his work but since he really is his son then it's not that big of a deal I guess... With the relation confirmed I wouldn't even consider it promotion. I think almost anyone in a similar circumstance would probably do about the same after learning that their father played a significant role in something as historic as Doom, that still has such an active modding scene and that has the easy to use tools we have today. Saying "hey I found out my dad did X so I wanted to give it a try" is a fairly natural instinct I would think. |
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 28, 2023 3:16:33 GMT -5
I still think it's not a good thing to use Dr. Sleep's name to promote his work but since he really is his son then it's not that big of a deal I guess... With the relation confirmed I wouldn't even consider it promotion. I think almost anyone in a similar circumstance would probably do about the same after learning that their father played a significant role in something as historic as Doom, that still has such an active modding scene and that has the easy to use tools we have today. Saying "hey I found out my dad did X so I wanted to give it a try" is a fairly natural instinct I would think. Eh, you could be right. Idk if I wouldn't do the same if I was in his shoes... I'll stand by my words though. |
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Post by Gokuma on Jul 28, 2023 5:03:14 GMT -5
Dr. Sleep is short for Dr. Sleeping With Your Wife. Skyr won the debate without even trying, about four pages ago (which is too many). Well it was a very clever joke. |
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Post by 40oz on Jul 28, 2023 9:14:23 GMT -5
Im speaking from memory here, but what i know about Dr. Sleep is that he has had a very spotty past. I remember reading at least a thread or two about investigating what has happened to Dr. Sleep and there was word going around that he was in jail, and this was confirmed by finding his name in a prison directory. Another person found an archive of Dr. Sleep's personal website which included a link to his resume, which contained the address of where he used to live at that time. The google street view showed the house was some tiny beat up old shack in rural pennsylvania in the middle of nowhere (edit i think im wrong about Pennsylvania, i forget what state it was exactly but im pretty sure it was some rural farmland part of the new england region of the united states) Although ive never met or spoken to him personally, it does seem entirely plausible to me that Dr. Sleep had a child he either didnt know about or a life he attempted to run away from. He's a weird dude. I went back to test my memory on this stuff. I was right about Dr. Sleep living in Pennsylvania but I made some other errors. As Suzette posted here in 2018, he was never incarcerated and what I heard at that time was actually a rumor from a bad actor. Now that I think of it, I have a memory of reading a familiar person's name in an inmate directory and replaced that memory on the old newdoom thread about the missing John Anderson. www.doomworld.com/forum/post/1917510The address that was pulled up in the search came from John Anderson's Portfolio which is linked to in Dr. Sleep's official Doom Wiki page. The address is still there, it's a single home in Uniontown Pennsylvania. I misremembered the house being in bad shape and in the middle of nowhere. I was 14 and living in a nice suburb with my parents at the time I saw images of it, so I didn't really know shit about houses. Now that I'm looking at the house again on Zillow, it looks fine. I don't know if it's been restored at all since then. Some of the shots from outside the property show the house partially obscured by trees and a crooked picket fence built on uneven terrain which I do remember. For some reason my memory filled this in as being a forgotten and neglected property. I'm not entirely sure at this point if what I saw on google maps street view in the 2000's looked wildly different than this. geocities.ws/likelystoriesus/portfolio.html |
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Post by anfractu0us on Jul 28, 2023 9:22:44 GMT -5
as a PA resident can at least confirm anything outside of the large cities is generally either in disrepair or outright blighted; hell, i'm in a top-5 population city and we had the poorest zipcode in the country at one point(believe it's lowest 5 or 10 now but not entirely sure tbh.) possible that it was in bad shape but a house flipper bought it and converted it to a rental unit lol
not that any of this is helpful or relevant to doom of course lmao
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Post by Gokuma on Jul 28, 2023 9:28:44 GMT -5
Im speaking from memory here, but what i know about Dr. Sleep is that he has had a very spotty past. I remember reading at least a thread or two about investigating what has happened to Dr. Sleep and there was word going around that he was in jail, and this was confirmed by finding his name in a prison directory. Another person found an archive of Dr. Sleep's personal website which included a link to his resume, which contained the address of where he used to live at that time. The google street view showed the house was some tiny beat up old shack in rural pennsylvania in the middle of nowhere (edit i think im wrong about Pennsylvania, i forget what state it was exactly but im pretty sure it was some rural farmland part of the new england region of the united states) Although ive never met or spoken to him personally, it does seem entirely plausible to me that Dr. Sleep had a child he either didnt know about or a life he attempted to run away from. He's a weird dude. I went back to test my memory on this stuff. I was right about Dr. Sleep living in Pennsylvania but I made some other errors. As Suzette posted here in 2018, he was never incarcerated and what I heard at that time was actually a rumor from a bad actor. Now that I think of it, I have a memory of reading a familiar person's name in an inmate directory and replaced that memory on the old newdoom thread about the missing John Anderson. www.doomworld.com/forum/post/1917510The address that was pulled up in the search came from John Anderson's Portfolio which is linked to in Dr. Sleep's official Doom Wiki page. The address is still there, it's a single home in Uniontown Pennsylvania. I misremembered the house being in bad shape and in the middle of nowhere. I was 14 and living in a nice suburb with my parents at the time I saw images of it, so I didn't really know shit about houses. Now that I'm looking at the house again on Zillow, it looks fine. I don't know if it's been restored at all since then. Some of the shots from outside the property show the house partially obscured by trees and a crooked picket fence built on uneven terrain which I do remember. For some reason my memory filled this in as being a forgotten and neglected property. I'm not entirely sure at this point if what I saw on google maps street view in the 2000's looked wildly different than this. geocities.ws/likelystoriesus/portfolio.htmlAh damn, one of the creators of Ultimate Doom and Master Levels having been incarcerated would have made Doom that much more badass, not that being incarcerated is anywhere near approaching being a good idea. Also beware that shady geocities.ws imposter hosting site. neocities.org is the real deal where original Geocities staff has gone. |
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Post by roadworx on Jul 28, 2023 10:27:37 GMT -5
this sorta behavior is why so many people are wary of you guys. most of you are grown-ass adults and yet you act like middle schoolers
not that i'm much better ofc, but at least i'm not the one that looks like an enormous douchebag rn ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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