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Post by lutumlautus on Jul 26, 2023 2:31:43 GMT -5
Well what did you expect from a guy who uses an OG Mario-do-not-steal avatar?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 3:44:26 GMT -5
I've seen desperate attempts to get back into Doomworld's graces before, but this is just sad.
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Post by ketmar on Jul 26, 2023 7:21:14 GMT -5
hey, the guy simply wants his share of PR to boost channel subscriptions. there's simply no need to do anything better than MVP here.
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Post by xeepeep on Jul 26, 2023 12:26:07 GMT -5
2,5 minutes of gameplay shown, full of obnoxious NES music and I'm-so-random sound effects, interview over Discord chat that doesn't contain any of the teased "proof", language skills on the level of a 13-year-old.
Yep, I'm leaning towards based...
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 26, 2023 12:33:28 GMT -5
roebloz seriously dude? This is supposed to be your epic Hypnos interview that will force the doubters to "shut the hell up"? I didn't expect to be this retarded to be honest. I actually thought it will be in audio format, instead of you typing questions over a discord chat. Take a good advice and never do anything of this nature again, it's pathetic and cringy as shit! And what happened to the silver bullet "evidence"? Of course there is none, so now, instead of shutting the doubters' mouths, you reinforced the suspicions... good job buddy! And let's not skip the fact of how hard you're sucking this guy's dick. Asking the most cliché, idiotic questions, that even a baby can formulate better, and then saying his map is worthy of a cacoward. That last one was comedy gold (for all the wrong reasons). No wonder you didn't post this abomination here, it's embarrassing. I thought Roebloz was an ok guy, but after watching this, uh, 'interview' I can see that he's a hypocrite shithead and probably fucked in the head (as in, retarded). Reading his previous posts, he did say the interview will be conducted via discord, but why the hell did he not use a fucking VOICE CHAT? Like he can't get a mic or use his phone? On top of that, he only ever mentions Mr. Hypnos' blood relation to Dr. Sleep ONCE and doesn't even ask for proof! What kind of bullshit interview is this? I bet he only did it because his ass got unbanned on Doomworld and now he's trying to get those sweet upvotes and boost view/subscriber count on his shitty channel. Fuck you, Roebloz...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 12:44:29 GMT -5
This is just pure, undistilled autism. I honestly don't know if there were any thoughts put into the "interview". The questions don't actually relate to the matter, mostly, and the names and PFP's of the accounts are for some reason concealed when the messages are shown (What, did you play that part out with a sockpuppet or a friend, Roebloz?). Not to mention nobody asks for actual proof, really professional. And the retarded usage of SMB sound effects and the author's OC interjections make it even worse. ...My prayers...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 12:49:29 GMT -5
The "Doh" and "Yahoo!" sound effects on the portion talking about Dr. Sleep's death were a classy touch.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 13:27:31 GMT -5
The "Doh" and "Yahoo!" sound effects on the portion talking about Dr. Sleep's death were a classy touch. "Great sadness and pain..."
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Post by ketmar on Jul 26, 2023 13:43:54 GMT -5
suddenly, i don't want an interview anymore…
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Post by dn on Jul 26, 2023 16:36:07 GMT -5
I really, really hope that when I die I can be immortalized in this manner. I hope they host a fucking furry convention in my open grave whilst screaming Luigi creepypasta at each other. I pray that the headstone topples from the plinth, bursting my bastard son like a squashed tomato whilst the whole thing is livestreamed on liveleak. I hope the digger hits the sewer main and gives every single person there hepatitis.
I genuinely want an utter retard like this to attend my cremation, I want him to read my eulogy and superchats dressed as that egg-shitting monstrosity from Mario 2.
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Post by Gokuma on Jul 26, 2023 19:22:24 GMT -5
Whether, he's telling the truth or not, has anyone given the guy constructive criticism to improve his mapping?
It's a win-win-win or win-lose-win situation that way. He improves his maps towards the legacy he claims to, the truth of the matter I guess may be still up in the air, and at least people get better maps to play.
So far it seems to be either extreme with people kissing his ass vs people doubting him. But either way he could stand to improve.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 26, 2023 21:15:54 GMT -5
how long are you guys gonna clutch onto this narrative that Mr Hypnos is some dork conning all of doomworld so people will pity play his map?
Some of you have been pretty shitty towards Mr.Hypnos in your speculation without him being here to defend himself, which makes you guys look like cowards. Now your cutting up an early youtuber because his content wasn't substantive enough to debunk this narrative, which is both really low and really unfair to Mr.Hypnos.
So far, you're hardly going to be triumphant in the best case scenario for yourselves where you turn out to be right all along. Youre not owed any proof anyway, so you might not even get it, but if Mr.Hypnos is the son of Dr.Sleep, you're absolutely being extremely disrespectful to Dr. Sleep's legacy by dragging his actual living son like this.
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Post by ketmar on Jul 26, 2023 22:27:02 GMT -5
how long are you guys gonna clutch onto this narrative that Mr Hypnos is some dork as long as it is fun. Some of you have been pretty shitty towards Mr.Hypnos in your speculation without him being here to defend himself, which makes you guys look like cowards. some of us are banned on DW. and he is NOT banned here. so he can come here and defend his dignity. but he's not doing this… like a coward. oops. Now your cutting up an early youtuber because his content wasn't substantive enough to debunk this narrative nope. he promised the interview that will give us some proofs. there are none. that's why we're mocking him. So far, you're hardly going to be triumphant in the best case scenario for yourselves where you turn out to be right all along. Youre not owed any proof anyway, so you might not even get it, but if Mr.Hypnos is the son of Dr.Sleep, you're absolutely being extremely disrespectful to Dr. Sleep's legacy by dragging his actual living son like this. how come? if anything, we are defending Dr.Sleep's legacy by not kneeling before some random person who claimed that he is a son of a famous person, yet without any real proofs. i will gladly say in public that i was wrong, and apologise when i'll get some real proofs. until then, the whole story looks like a hoax, a PR stunt. of course, Mr.Hypnos aren't obliged to prove anything. and we aren't obliged to blindly trust him. i really can't understand why you're trying to defend him so hard. quite a bizarre hill to die on, if you'll ask me.
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Post by ketmar on Jul 26, 2023 22:32:09 GMT -5
Whether, he's telling the truth or not, has anyone given the guy constructive criticism to improve his mapping? we talked about that on IRC channel a little. not with him, of course. i can't talk with him on DW, and he never announced his map here, so i see little reasons to write something more detailed than "yeah, this definitely looks like 'my first map i spent some efforts on'; playable, but boring and faceless."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2023 23:06:19 GMT -5
Now your cutting up an early youtuber because his content wasn't substantive enough to debunk this narrative, which is both really low and really unfair to Mr.Hypnos. He's getting cut up because his video was shit, and even if it was just about Dr. Sleep and didn't involve Hypnos at all it still would have been in poor taste. "He's dead now, so yeah rest in peace bing bing wahoo"
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 27, 2023 0:02:21 GMT -5
how long are you guys gonna clutch onto this narrative that Mr Hypnos is some dork conning all of doomworld so people will pity play his map? Some of you have been pretty shitty towards Mr.Hypnos in your speculation without him being here to defend himself, which makes you guys look like cowards. Now your cutting up an early youtuber because his content wasn't substantive enough to debunk this narrative, which is both really low and really unfair to Mr.Hypnos. So far, you're hardly going to be triumphant in the best case scenario for yourselves where you turn out to be right all along. Youre not owed any proof anyway, so you might not even get it, but if Mr.Hypnos is the son of Dr.Sleep, you're absolutely being extremely disrespectful to Dr. Sleep's legacy by dragging his actual living son like this. Until there's proof he didn't lie. And he's not owed any trust or respect simply because he claims he's Dr. Sleep's son.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 0:36:33 GMT -5
Some of you have been pretty shitty towards Mr.Hypnos in your speculation without him being here to defend himself, which makes you guys look like cowards. Now your cutting up an early youtuber because his content wasn't substantive enough to debunk this narrative, which is both really low and really unfair to Mr.Hypnos. So far, you're hardly going to be triumphant in the best case scenario for yourselves where you turn out to be right all along. Youre not owed any proof anyway, so you might not even get it, but if Mr.Hypnos is the son of Dr.Sleep, you're absolutely being extremely disrespectful to Dr. Sleep's legacy by dragging his actual living son like this. He can come to the forum and defend himself, freely, it's up to him. And, even though asking for proof about such things may be in poor taste, but you can't just come out with claims like that and expect to be believed instantly. It's like claiming you are related to a celebrity.
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Post by 40oz on Jul 27, 2023 0:43:06 GMT -5
That doesn't sit well with me. I already find the doom community to be pretty hostile in general but to me this is a really dark turn if by default I am presumed to be lying about who I say I am unless I provide sufficient proof to back it up.
In my opinion i don't see a very strong incentive to lie about something like this. It seems like a difficult ruse to uphold for as long as he wants to continue participating in the community for very little return. It makes much more sense that his identity is real.
Im speaking from memory here, but what i know about Dr. Sleep is that he has had a very spotty past. I remember reading at least a thread or two about investigating what has happened to Dr. Sleep and there was word going around that he was in jail, and this was confirmed by finding his name in a prison directory. Another person found an archive of Dr. Sleep's personal website which included a link to his resume, which contained the address of where he used to live at that time. The google street view showed the house was some tiny beat up old shack in rural pennsylvania in the middle of nowhere (edit i think im wrong about Pennsylvania, i forget what state it was exactly but im pretty sure it was some rural farmland part of the new england region of the united states) Although ive never met or spoken to him personally, it does seem entirely plausible to me that Dr. Sleep had a child he either didnt know about or a life he attempted to run away from. He's a weird dude.
I've never had to verify that I'm not an imposter over the internet. If I ever had to do it, i don't really know how I would, especially in a community that is new to me and to people who didn't actually know anything about me previously and have various metrics of proof they require in order to be convinced. If any of you guys painted me as a liar I'd probably just avoid you entirely. Having to come find you and make you believe me would not be on my list of priorities. I'd just think you are assholes and wouldn't want you as friends anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 1:00:36 GMT -5
That doesn't sit well with me. I already find the doom community to be pretty hostile in general but to me this is a really dark turn if by default I am presumed to be lying about who I say I am unless I provide sufficient proof to back it up. In my opinion i don't see a very strong incentive to lie about something like this. It seems like a difficult ruse to uphold for as long as he wants to continue participating in the community for very little return. It makes much more sense that his identity is real. Im speaking from memory here, but what i know about Dr. Sleep is that he has had a very spotty past. I remember reading at least a thread or two about investigating what has happened to Dr. Sleep and there was word going around that he was in jail, and this was confirmed by finding his name in a prison directory. Another person found an archive of Dr. Sleep's personal website which included a link to his resume, which contained the address of where he used to live at that time. The google street view showed the house was some tiny beat up old shack in rural pennsylvania in the middle of nowhere (edit i think im wrong about Pennsylvania, i forget what state it was exactly but im pretty sure it was some rural farmland part of the new england region of the united states) Although ive never met or spoken to him personally, it does seem entirely plausible to me that Dr. Sleep had a child he either didnt know about or a life he attempted to run away from. He's a weird dude. I've never had to verify that I'm not an imposter over the internet. If I ever had to do it, i don't really know how I would, especially in a community that is new to me and to people who didn't actually know anything about me previously and have various metrics of proof they require in order to be convinced. If any of you guys painted me as a liar I'd probably just avoid you entirely. Having to come find you and make you believe me would not be on my list of priorities. I'd just think you are assholes and wouldn't want you as friends anyway. Wait, so, digging into someone's personal and criminal record is fine, but asking a supposed "lost child" of the guy if they are really related is not?
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Post by ketmar on Jul 27, 2023 1:00:41 GMT -5
eh… the core of the problem here is the coupling of "i'm Dr.Sleep son" and "i made a map". it looks like trying to use some well-known person's legacy to draw attention to yourself. which is not that bad thing to do… but it's quite natural that some people want more proofs in this case. because the whole thing smells. it looks like cheap attention whoring. i'm not saying that it definitely is, but it looks like it.
that's just how people work: if somebody wants some profits (PR, in this case) from such claims, people want proofs. if Mr.Hypnos' post would be only about "hey, i found that i'm Dr.Sleep son", without the "…and i made a map" part, i bet there wouldn't be such hostile reaction here.
i.e. it's not about "you cannot be his son", but about "you cannot use his name to advertise yourself without solid proofs". that's why we (me, at least) so upset.
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 27, 2023 1:04:45 GMT -5
That doesn't sit well with me. I already find the doom community to be pretty hostile in general but to me this is a really dark turn if by default I am presumed to be lying about who I say I am unless I provide sufficient proof to back it up. In my opinion i don't see a very strong incentive to lie about something like this. It seems like a difficult ruse to uphold for as long as he wants to continue participating in the community for very little return. It makes much more sense that his identity is real. Im speaking from memory here, but what i know about Dr. Sleep is that he has had a very spotty past. I remember reading at least a thread or two about investigating what has happened to Dr. Sleep and there was word going around that he was in jail, and this was confirmed by finding his name in a prison directory. Another person found an archive of Dr. Sleep's personal website which included a link to his resume, which contained the address of where he used to live at that time. The google street view showed the house was some tiny beat up old shack in rural pennsylvania in the middle of nowhere (edit i think im wrong about Pennsylvania, i forget what state it was exactly but im pretty sure it was some rural farmland part of the new england region of the united states) Although ive never met or spoken to him personally, it does seem entirely plausible to me that Dr. Sleep had a child he either didnt know about or a life he attempted to run away from. He's a weird dude. I've never had to verify that I'm not an imposter over the internet. If I ever had to do it, i don't really know how I would, especially in a community that is new to me and to people who didn't actually know anything about me previously and have various metrics of proof they require in order to be convinced. If any of you guys painted me as a liar I'd probably just avoid you entirely. Having to come find you and make you believe me would not be on my list of priorities. I'd just think you are assholes and wouldn't want you as friends anyway. I find it funny how you try to defend that Mr. Hypnos guy so hard, you ended up painting Dr. Sleep as a complete scumbag by saying he lived in a shitty old house and did time in jail and shit... And all of this just to say 'Dr. Sleep might actually be the bad guy here, so stop accusing Mr. Hypnos of one thing he certainly did' (using dead man's name and credit to promote his shit).
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Post by xeepeep on Jul 27, 2023 2:24:12 GMT -5
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 27, 2023 2:56:45 GMT -5
Or maybe he did this to make his story more believable... I think dwsucksassthesedays was right when he said he might be a banned user or left DW because nobody paid much attention to his work. That'd explain why he started mentioning him being Dr. Sleep's son long before he posted his first map.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 4:47:16 GMT -5
Or maybe he did this to make his story more believable... I think dwsucksassthesedays was right when he said he might be a banned user or left DW because nobody paid much attention to his work. That'd explain why he started mentioning him being Dr. Sleep's son long before he posted his first map. Unlikely, as your sockpuppet being found out in mere hours proves. They can and will run thorough and in-depth IP checks for banned members. Also, as mentioned before, their posting history goes a bit back before their first map's posting.
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Post by CittyKat112 on Jul 27, 2023 5:11:36 GMT -5
Or maybe he did this to make his story more believable... I think dwsucksassthesedays was right when he said he might be a banned user or left DW because nobody paid much attention to his work. That'd explain why he started mentioning him being Dr. Sleep's son long before he posted his first map. Unlikely, as your sockpuppet being found out in mere hours proves. They can and will run thorough and in-depth IP checks for banned members. Also, as mentioned before, their posting history goes a bit back before their first map's posting. Yeah, that makes sense. I think he could've used a different PC or maybe he moved, but I'm probably reading too much into it now. Still, I don't think his words are legit. And I think it wasn't their first map either... Not because it's that good, but because most of the first maps I've seen always had the same issues: layout has next to no height variation, same texture plastered everywhere, repetitive combat, etc. It feels like an average map but it's also pretty competent for someone who didn't have any experience with mapping beforehand imo.
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