Doom community happenings

I think Major Arlene and others are in a little doom community of their own with BridgeBurner. Hellforge I think it's called? I could be making that up; I don't actually know where it is. I think it's a discord channel maybe. I think I've seen arlene cite Bridgeburner as an awesome mapping mentor and a lot of what she knows she learned from him. The screenshots he takes of his maps are gorgeous eye-candy for an instagram profile, but if you ever suffered the displeasure of tolerating a map created by him, you'll know the stuff he creates is unplayable garbage. His internet experience has this inpenetrable protective bubble around it (it seems like) because I'm not sure anyone has told him that he has no idea how much HP the doom monsters have and sometimes shooting rockets at 1,200 revenants in a perfect circle arena while GZDoom is chugging at rendering the fog and dynamic lighting is not the ideal doom experience that perpetually online people tell you it is. I couldn't believe Icaruslives pre-review of Age of Hell and how he was drooling over some of the most mundane level design and gzdoom features, and talking about how cool it is to play a game with what is essentially reskinned doom monsters and weapons.

If you hang out around Bridgeburner and see him getting unending highfives and asskisses for everything he does, you'll probably want to ride his coat tails and refer to everything he makes in the map editor as a roadmap to a respected reputation in the Doom community. You almost never see videos and streams of people playing his maps and there's a reason for that.

this post is really digging into BrigeBurner, but like most things, the problem isn't the guy itself, its the fanbase cultivated around him and Major arlene is #1.

40oz oh believe me, i'm well aware of his "design". I've even tried to pour some sense into the guy with a response under a short video from his Nirvana interview... a short video where he talks about his "grand design". Here it is, the first and only comment under the video is from me. Of course, he didn't respond, but i got the other super overrated mapper, Nirvana, trying to explain to me how good both of their mapping styles are. And even a few of his fanboys jumped in. These people are completely delusional, living in denial, and you're 100% right, it's not their fault, it's because of people who probably don't even play classic Doom anymore, but ride their dicks for making eye candy maps with zero substance.

ketmar the shit he does visually will be more suitable in something like the Quake or Unreal 1 engine, but of course he's not going to transition there, because in those engines, his inability to design creative and interesting combat will shine even more.

il be honest about Bridge, I have no quarrel with the guy but i find his work to be... serviceable at best, i can agree that his big ass maps might be all bark and no bite, but i the dude is clearly having some fun with it (if his livestream are any indication) regardless if he makes it impossible to run on most computers (Especially the the ones that have OLD hardware which is around 90% of the people who want to play retro fps in my opinion (i could be talking out of my ass on this one however)) all i can really see in the future is that he one day going to make a walking sim and it's probably going to be best to gawk at, but that's really it...
As for his publishing work, dude has pretty much has a ton of gzdoom games (80% at the very least) in his wing: i was even considering adding mine to the table seeing he accepted project abstentia, but Bridge never played my game (To note, It was not SORROW, it's another project i am currently and very much now procrastinating at).

regardless of all of that, Bridge, despite being seem by some as a caveman enjoy throwing buckets in a big canvas and laughing like an idiot (which is a fair view of him i won't lie), him putting some games in the radar is nice. (You can also throw the fact that the publisher need their cut on promoting/selling the stuff and that is true but Retro fps's are considered to be a very niche market, so i doubt either way people will make much profit.)

I never understood this desire to overcomlicate things. I do like interesting scenery in a doom map, but it must play second-fiddle to gameplay for it to work.
And, why won't they move up a nothc engine-wise? It's clear GZdoom is unable to run those maps, due to awful optimisation. Why not map for Quake or something, in a case like this. Although, i think lack of understanding of gameplay on the part of BB or Arlene will still weight the product down. It looks good, but what's the point?

goto is like jump for me, and jump is fundamental.
removing fundamental things is absurrrrd

…and Project Oberon has zero gotos, because the language simply doesn't have that feature. the problem with "goto" is that it is simply impossible to write structured code with unpredictable control flow. and unstructured code is almost impossible to reason about and to maintain. everything that needs "goto" can be done without it, and the code will be more clear and easy to follow.

but i must confess that i am using "goto" in C myself, because C is a bad language. no proper GC and no nested functions means that you either have to manually pass around a working context, or to use gotos for various cleanups and such. yet with Oberon/Component Pascal i never felt that i need "goto"… except the cases when i porting some C code to Oberon. ;-)

the guy is absolutely insane! (in a good sense.). sadly, i cannot see the problem which he is trying to solve (and which cannot be solved MUCH better with something like DECOLITE). mbf21 was a very bad idea, and this one is even worser (because now you need a separate compiler to create cbors).

It's soy

anything rooted in dehacked is broken beyond any repair. supporting a properly defined subset of DECORATE was the right way. but of course, Doom modding scene needs more incompatible ways to mod the game, so MBF21. it was discussed somewhere on this board.

just a concept. i see no reason to work on it further, because i don't believe that it will be supported by most sourceports, and k8vavoom already supports full DECORATE.